(06-17-2014 08:10 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I don't even think that's contractually possible.

It's not. Phil screwed up. The ACC's Orange bowl opponent has to be from the B1G, SEC or Notre Dame.

Also, Marshall should move back to the MAC. You can make an access bowl from the MAC. I'm not so sure about this 'new' CUSA.

(06-25-2014 01:47 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:10 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I don't even think that's contractually possible.

It's not. Phil screwed up. The ACC's Orange bowl opponent has to be from the B1G, SEC or Notre Dame.

Also, Marshall should move back to the MAC. You can make an access bowl from the MAC. I'm not so sure about this 'new' CUSA.

There's really not that much difference between the two leagues. Both have one or two good teams at the top, several decent teams just below them, and an absolutely putrid bottom.

(06-25-2014 08:37 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 01:47 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:10 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I don't even think that's contractually possible.

It's not. Phil screwed up. The ACC's Orange bowl opponent has to be from the B1G, SEC or Notre Dame.

Also, Marshall should move back to the MAC. You can make an access bowl from the MAC. I'm not so sure about this 'new' CUSA.

There's really not that much difference between the two leagues. Both have one or two good teams at the top, several decent teams just below them, and an absolutely putrid bottom.

With C-USA having more bowl tie ins, more money from our media deal, and yes, just as much access to the Access Bowl.

(06-25-2014 08:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 08:37 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 01:47 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:10 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I don't even think that's contractually possible.

It's not. Phil screwed up. The ACC's Orange bowl opponent has to be from the B1G, SEC or Notre Dame.

Also, Marshall should move back to the MAC. You can make an access bowl from the MAC. I'm not so sure about this 'new' CUSA.

There's really not that much difference between the two leagues. Both have one or two good teams at the top, several decent teams just below them, and an absolutely putrid bottom.

With C-USA having more bowl tie ins, more money from our media deal, and yes, just as much access to the Access Bowl.

I was simply referring to the overall competitive strength of the two leagues.

(06-25-2014 10:21 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 08:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 08:37 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 01:47 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:10 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I don't even think that's contractually possible.

It's not. Phil screwed up. The ACC's Orange bowl opponent has to be from the B1G, SEC or Notre Dame.

Also, Marshall should move back to the MAC. You can make an access bowl from the MAC. I'm not so sure about this 'new' CUSA.

There's really not that much difference between the two leagues. Both have one or two good teams at the top, several decent teams just below them, and an absolutely putrid bottom.

With C-USA having more bowl tie ins, more money from our media deal, and yes, just as much access to the Access Bowl.

I was simply referring to the overall competitive strength of the two leagues.

I know, OP just suggested MAC was ahead of C-USA so I was just adding reasons they actually aren't.

The bowl gap has narrowed/closed. The only G5s to improve their situations are the MAC and SBC. MAC will have 5 primary tie ins with back ups...same as CUSA. SBC will have 4...I think...Mobile, NO/Miami, Montgomery and Orlando...plus G5 pool backups. Outside of HOD, the opponents come from the same pool. At 12 and 11 teams, the MAC and SBC are holding their own when comparing bowl opportunities (5 for 12 and 4 for 11 vs. 5 for 14). I don't think anyone from CUSA, MAC or SBC has to worry about being left out. There should be plenty to go around...mostly from the G5 bowl pool.

(06-25-2014 10:51 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  The bowl gap has narrowed/closed. The only G5s to improve their situations are the MAC and SBC. MAC will have 5 primary tie ins with back ups...same as CUSA. SBC will have 4...I think...Mobile, NO/Miami, Montgomery and Orlando...plus G5 pool backups. Outside of HOD, the opponents come from the same pool. At 12 and 11 teams, the MAC and SBC are holding their own when comparing bowl opportunities (5 for 12 and 4 for 11 vs. 5 for 14). I don't think anyone from CUSA, MAC or SBC has to worry about being left out. There should be plenty to go around...mostly from the G5 bowl pool.

Correct on MAC actually having 5 primary bowl tie-ins. I was wrong, my apologies.

Since this is the thread that expects Marshall to have a glorious Orange Bowl season, Ohio just poached a WR from Marshall's 2015 recruiting class.

http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard...PID=150102

If this guy goes on to play in the NFL its going to be a major slap in the face.......

(06-17-2014 08:16 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  This year may be a litmus test on how the playoff committee picks the at-large G5 opponent for the access bowl. Are they going to pick the team with the best record or are they going to pick the best G5 team?

There is a good chance will go undefeated and blow everyone on the schedule out this year. They have one of the worst schedules I have ever seen (see below). However, a one loss team with a more challenging schedule (UCF, Cincinati, ECU, Houston, Boise State) might have a better argument. Again, the big question is what criteria the playoff committee uses when making their selection.

Marshall's Schedule
Miami (OH)
Rhode Island
Ohio
Akron
Old Dominion
Middle Tennessee State University
Florida International
Florida Atlantic
Southern Miss
Rice
UAB
Western Kentucky

They are going to pick the G5 team that will put the most G5 fans in the access bowl seats and makes the most money for the P5 conferences. The G5 schools can't make any more than 1 million a piece so that bar is set for them unless their conference wins in the G5 sweepstakes at the end of the year and goes to the access bowl.

(06-25-2014 10:51 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  The bowl gap has narrowed/closed. The only G5s to improve their situations are the MAC and SBC. MAC will have 5 primary tie ins with back ups...same as CUSA. SBC will have 4...I think...Mobile, NO/Miami, Montgomery and Orlando...plus G5 pool backups. Outside of HOD, the opponents come from the same pool. At 12 and 11 teams, the MAC and SBC are holding their own when comparing bowl opportunities (5 for 12 and 4 for 11 vs. 5 for 14). I don't think anyone from CUSA, MAC or SBC has to worry about being left out. There should be plenty to go around...mostly from the G5 bowl pool.

MAC and SBC have dramatically improved their bowl line-ups, without question. The MAC and SBC set of bowls against its NonBCS colleagues changes the public perception of MAC and SBC dramatically, and puts these two conferences on a more equal footing with its NonBCS conference colleagues.

Isn't the criteria set to G5 Champions only? Thus the selection committee only has 5 choices to choose from each year.

So another words if Houston gets beat-up out of conference and then sweeps the AAC and goes 9-4 they are the team from the AAC that the committee will consider regardless of the fact UCF is 12-1 and lost by 1 point to Houston. UCF could not be considered in that scenario and a 4-loss Houston isn't getting in.

Correct?

(07-27-2014 12:44 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Isn't the criteria set to G5 Champions only? Thus the selection committee only has 5 choices to choose from each year.

So another words if Houston gets beat-up out of conference and then sweeps the AAC and goes 9-4 they are the team from the AAC that the committee will consider regardless of the fact UCF is 12-1 and lost by 1 point to Houston. UCF could not be considered in that scenario and a 4-loss Houston isn't getting in.

Correct?

Yes, only champions are considered, not the one with the best record.

Haven't quite figured out how they get the Orange Bowl with out an ACC team. The ACC has a contract with the Orange like the Rose and Sugar. If the champ goes to the playoffs, a replacement team goes to the Orange.

(07-27-2014 04:24 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Haven't quite figured out how they get the Orange Bowl with out an ACC team. The ACC has a contract with the Orange like the Rose and Sugar. If the champ goes to the playoffs, a replacement team goes to the Orange.

this is the crux of everything. if a guy like phil steele cant even handle a simple concept like this........ what credibility does he have with rankings and bowl matchups? he clearly doesnt do much research into this..... and most likely his research into his rankings and bowl matchups are probably a joke as well......

the real sad part is that this type of crappy research and analysis is what went into the BCS and polls for eons.

(06-17-2014 08:16 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  This year may be a litmus test on how the playoff committee picks the at-large G5 opponent for the access bowl. Are they going to pick the team with the best record or are they going to pick the best G5 team?

If there is one and only one undefeated G5 team, I would be very surprised if that team is not chosen as the G5 rep. A one-loss G5 team isn't guaranteed to be chosen over a two-loss team with a stronger schedule or a bigger "name" or whatever, but being the only undefeated G5 team would trump those other considerations.