(07-25-2014 12:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I stand corrected. In Virginia, Equality Virginia does have a plate. In most states, only conservatives get plates.

For better or for worse, Virginia isn't the same Virginia as 20 years ago, in the political sense. The conservative base is still here, and still quite powerful, but the amount of people in NoVA has tilted the state to a purple hue. The change has forced both political parties to work together and for both of them to tone down any extremism or risk losing election.

It doesn't shock me to see both conservative and liberal license plates because both groups have a strong base here in the Commonwealth. Plus, the laws for making a new plate are fairly simple - you have get enough people to petition the DMV and it'll happen.

States have systems set up in order to get a plate made up. All you need is a few thousand signatures and they can't stop you, gay or otherwise.

If you are spending your time complaining then you need to man up and go find the signatures and prepaid number of folks to get your tag put up.

(07-26-2014 10:02 AM)Murray007 Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I stand corrected. In Virginia, Equality Virginia does have a plate. In most states, only conservatives get plates.

For better or for worse, Virginia isn't the same Virginia as 20 years ago, in the political sense. The conservative base is still here, and still quite powerful, but the amount of people in NoVA has tilted the state to a purple hue. The change has forced both political parties to work together and for both of them to tone down any extremism or risk losing election.

It doesn't shock me to see both conservative and liberal license plates because both groups have a strong base here in the Commonwealth. Plus, the laws for making a new plate are fairly simple - you have get enough people to petition the DMV and it'll happen.

The Commonwealth of Virginia is still completely conservative state. NOVA, Tidewater and Albemarle County and possibly Henrico are tilting the scales like never before. The entire stTe county map is Red except in about 6 counties. Sad so very sad!


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License plates to history!

(07-27-2014 06:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is why the SpinRoom is so fun!

License plates to history!

You shoulda seen what happened in the Michael Moore thread.

(07-27-2014 06:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 06:27 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is why the SpinRoom is so fun!

License plates to history!

You shoulda seen what happened in the Michael Moore thread.

Missed it!

John understands that the Civil War was over the north trying to control the textile trade in the south

(07-27-2014 06:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John understands that the Civil War was over the north trying to control the textile trade in the south

Who let you in here? Didn't you very adamantly claim that you had no desire to discuss history on CSNBBS????

(07-27-2014 06:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 06:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John understands that the Civil War was over the north trying to control the textile trade in the south

Who let you in here? Didn't you very adamantly claim that you had no desire to discuss history on CSNBBS????

I think you are confused on where you are right now, John.

(07-27-2014 06:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 06:43 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 06:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John understands that the Civil War was over the north trying to control the textile trade in the south

Who let you in here? Didn't you very adamantly claim that you had no desire to discuss history on CSNBBS????

I think you are confused on where you are right now, John.

Well you did walk into a history discussion.

Prime examples of what General Patrick Cleburne prophesied as to what would happen if the North won.

Wow he was right about you two boys. In his letter to Johnson.


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(07-27-2014 09:08 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Prime examples of what General Patrick Cleburne prophesied as to what would happen if the North won.
Wow he was right about you two boys. In his letter to Johnson.

Quote:We can give but a faint idea when we say it means the loss of all we now hold most sacred--slaves and all other personal property, lands, homesteads, liberty, justice, safety, pride, manhood.

http://www.civilwarhome.com/cleburneproposal.htm

What's first on the list of things he holds sacred? And this is in a letter where he is proposing arming the slaves.

Quote:It means the crushing of Southern manhood, the hatred of our former slaves, who will, on a spy system, be our secret police.

Oh the poor dear, he's afraid the slaves are going to hate him.

Quote:slavery, from being one of our chief sources of strength at the commencement of the war, has now become, in a military point of view, one of our chief sources of weakness.

Always nice to see a good, principled, man. Oh wait.

Quote:The enemy has three sources of supply: First, his own motley population; secondly, our slaves; and thirdly, Europeans whose hearts are fired into a crusade against us by fictitious pictures of the atrocities of slavery. . .

Ficticious pictures of the atrocities of slavery. This guy is a true Georgia peach. No wonder you admire him so.

Quote:Wherever slavery is once seriously disturbed, whether by the actual presence or the approach of the enemy, or even by a cavalry raid, the whites can no longer with safety to their property openly sympathize with our cause. The fear of their slaves is continually haunting them, and from silence and apprehension many of these soon learn to wish the war stopped on any terms.

Oh those poor dears. They can't continue supporting the side fighting for the subjugation of blacks because they are afraid of the blacks they have subjugated. How rude of those slaves to deny those oppressed whites the privilege of supporting the Confederacy.

Quote:. . . that we immediately commence training a large reserve of the most courageous of our slaves, and further that we guarantee freedom within a reasonable time to every slave in the South who shall remain true to the Confederacy in this war. As between the loss of independence and the loss of slavery, we assume that every patriot will freely give up the latter--give up the negro slave rather than be a slave himself. If we are correct in this assumption it only remains to show how this great national sacrifice is, in all human probabilities, to change the current of success and sweep the invader from our country.

It's telling that the Confederacy didn't follow through on this plan. Is it because they loved slavery more than independence or because they were afraid they wouldn't be able to control the black troops?

Quote:The measure will at one blow strip the enemy of foreign sympathy and assistance, and transfer them to the South; it will dry up two of his three sources of recruiting; it will take from his negro army the only motive it could have to fight against the South, and will probably cause much of it to desert over to us. . .

He is your kind of guy. Clearly delusional.

Quote:We can only get a sufficiency by making the negro share the danger and hardships of the war.

Share?

Quote:If, then, we touch the institution at all, we would do best to make the most of it, and by emancipating the whole race upon reasonable terms, and within such reasonable time as will prepare both races for the change, secure to ourselves all the advantages, and to our enemies all the disadvantages that can arise, both at home and abroad, from such a sacrifice. Satisfy the negro that if he faithfully adheres to our standard during the war he shall receive his freedom and that of his race. Give him as an earnest of our intentions such immediate immunities as will impress him with our sincerity and be in keeping with his new condition, enroll a portion of his class as soldiers of the Confederacy, and we change the race from a dreaded weakness to a position of strength.

No, seriously, we're a little screwed right now, but help us out and we will totally set your people free. After a reasonable time passes, of course. You don't want to rush these things. I mean, that cotton isn't going to pick itself. Once we figure out how to take care of that, we'll let you go. I promise. What, why do you want to see my fingers?

Quote:and the experience of this war has been so far that half-trained negroes have fought as bravely as many other half-trained Yankees. If, contrary to the training of a lifetime, they can be made to face and fight bravely against their former masters, how much more probable is it that with the allurement of a higher reward, and led by those masters, they would submit to discipline and face dangers.

I have no words. None.

Quote:It is said slaves will not work after they are freed. We think necessity and a wise legislation will compel them to labor for a living.

So then, after all the pretty promises, slaves still. He had his fingers crossed the whole time.

Had you actually read this letter? Or just the line about the education--that sure is pithy? This is the letter you wanted me to read? Seriously? Come on, man. If you don't put some effort into it it's just no fun.

I like unique license plates. And yes, I am a license plate geek.

The Great Corrupt State of Illinois has a long history of unique license plates, not so much along the lines of the number of choices of license plates, but in regard to what number is on you license plate. The lower the better, or if not a low number, a unique number combination.

Here is a regular plate



Here is a low number plate



With the broadest brush possible to paint an entire driving population, if you had a low number or a unique number, especially on the regular issue Land of Lincoln plates you were connected. It was a public way of saying you were someone, or knew someone. Anything less than 5 digits (7 through 9999) meant you were the shiznit. You had a guy at Sec of State, or at the DMV, or your brother in law was an alderman etc. Very low key but very Chicago-passive-aggressive.

So, being as impressionable as I am, I tried very hard to figure a way to get a great low number plate. I worked for the State at the time, but never really got anywhere because I was pretty low on the pole and I wasn’t really ready to cash in any chits. However, at the time the Great Corrupt State of Illinois was just issuing college plates, and I was able to score a very low 4 digit low number plate.

Basic issue NIU plate style



Low number NIU plate



Of course, in order to raise more revenue to go into the pockets of politicians, the Great Corrupt State of Illinois also issued special event plates;

Quote:Special Event License Plates are a unique promotional item available to civic organizations and others by the Secretary of State's office. To qualify for these plates, the event must be open to the public and be an activity that promotes the interest of Illinois citizens. Upon approval by the Secretary of State's office, organizations may design and have manufactured license plates that may be displayed on qualified vehicles for 60 days prior to midnight on the last day of the event. The basic cost per set is $10; however, the number of colors will determine the final cost of the plates. There is no limit on quantity; however, the minimum order is 50 sets

I had left State employment by this time, and ended working closely with a women whose husband owned one of the companies that was licensed to make special event plates for the Great Corrupt State of Illinois. Through this women at work, I was able to make special number requests through her husband for low and unique number plates, and I almost always got them issued without delay.

For instance, for the 2005 George Bush Presidential Inaugural, I scored a legit Inauguration plate with number 99. Yes, 99. Here is the description:

Quote: Two private companies were behind the second 2005 offering, which was offered in both a full-size and motorcycle plate version. The distinctive deep blue plate with an image of the Capitol was designed and marketed by Hunter International Co., of Arlington, Va., and manufactured by Motor Vehicle License Systems, of Laguna Hills, Cal. In addition to being offered to the public as souvenirs, these plates were used on motorcycles operated by the Metropolitan Police Dept. and U.S. Park Police that led the inaugural parade, as well as on other official vehicles in the parade. Pairs of the Hunter/MVLS plates were available for $50, and could be personalized with up to seven characters. Numbers below 1500 were not available to the general public.

My bold. I have 99. I am general public.



But did you read how these are supposed to be “souvenir” plates? Not in the Great Corrupt State of Illinois! For a small and very manageable fee I was able to get official registration stickers and a note from the Illinois Secretary of State making these plates legitimate for during the Inauguration, two week before, during the Inaugural, and two week after. I probably could have run them for a year if I wanted…..

The reason I didn’t keep these plates on, outside of course of fear of vandalism from tolerant liberals, was that there was a new special issue plate coming out: Support Law Enforcement.

So again, with a small but manageable fee paid to the company making the plates for the registration



I was issued a Support Law Enforcement license plate in the very impressionable number 99. I imagine everyone remotely knowledgeable about the license plate practices of the Great Corrupt State of Illinois just dropped their jaw to the floor. Well, I did. I rocked that plate until I moved out of state. This plate is now mounted on the front of my classic car (no front MN plates needed for a classic car in Minnesota) and I often get as many questions about the plates as I do the car when I am out driving, including once by an off-duty cop driving an orange Vespa with a side-car filling up at the gas station. If I was to guess, the Support Law Enforcement license plate got me out of at least two speeding tickets and one ill-advised late parking lot adventure…….

To be clear, all of my payments were legitimate and were for the special plate registration fees. My in was knowing the wife of the guy who made the plates. He literally just went to the printing/stamping plant and took the good numbers for friends and family. And my driving record is almost spotless which could have been the reason I got out of the tickets, not necessarily the plates….

(07-28-2014 10:19 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  This plate is now mounted on the front of my classic car (no front MN plates needed for a classic car in Minnesota) and I often get as many questions about the plates as I do the car when I am out driving, including once by an off-duty cop driving an orange Vespa with a side-car filling up at the gas station.

Wait . . . what? A Vespa with a side-car?

(07-28-2014 10:34 AM)jh Wrote:  Wait . . . what? A Vespa with a side-car?

It was fantastic. Chicago Bears orange, only missing a dog with goggles to make it the best thing ever....

The Gadsden plate from Virginia looks more like an LSU plate than anything else.