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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
(07-27-2014 04:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  GOP and 'right to life'.

Abortion must be stopped in the US. But Kids fleeing murderous violence should be forced to return to a war zone.

Speaks volumes about the GOP's commitment to the 'right to life'.

What war zone?

Regarding the violence, how is that ever going to get fixed if people run away from it?
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
(07-27-2014 04:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  But they are no longer in their country, they are in our country.

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And that is our fault?
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
(07-27-2014 04:50 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 04:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  GOP and 'right to life'.

Abortion must be stopped in the US. But Kids fleeing murderous violence should be forced to return to a war zone.

Speaks volumes about the GOP's commitment to the 'right to life'.

What war zone?

Regarding the violence, how is that ever going to get fixed if people run away from it?

The US bears some involvement with the reason why Honduras is a war zone. We buy the drugs that keep the gangs funded. We send criminals to Honduras with no skills that overwhelm a government unprepared to deal with the issue of 100,000 gang members deported to their country of 8 million residents.

I think we have to continue to deport the gang members. But we should be providing strong economic and security aid to help Honduras deal with their gang issues. And El Salvador and Guatemala have the same issue. This solution will take time, and in the interim, we have to figure out some way to deal with the kids that are fleeing forced conscription as child soldiers into US founded gangs (MS13 was founded here).

One issue is that many of the kids actually have legitimate asylum requests.

Honduras is pretty much a failed state. El Salvador is getting close.

I travel a lot. And I go to a lot of sketchy places. I went to Guatemala in January. Its bad there. Real bad.
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
Tom, Guatemala has a murder rate of about 90 per 100k. While bad, we also have cities that are struggling and could use some help.

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This action will either lead to major landslide for Republicans or Democrats come November. I suspect O will RAM this through Labor Day weekend to limit how many people even watch the news about how great this is. If the Republicans win the Senate, I suspect O will not finish his term.
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Re: RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
(07-27-2014 04:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  GOP and 'right to life'.

Abortion must be stopped in the US. But Kids fleeing murderous violence should be forced to return to a war zone.

Speaks volumes about the GOP's commitment to the 'right to life'.

Another liberal changing the argument. The entire basis for your argument is beyond stupid.

Since you've changed it though, do you not think we should help the children of Detroit and Chicago first? Those two I places are pretty damn classic to "war zones".



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So, they get refugee status because Honduras sucks.
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
(07-27-2014 04:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  GOP and 'right to life'.

Abortion must be stopped in the US. But Kids fleeing murderous violence should be forced to return to a war zone.

Speaks volumes about the GOP's commitment to the 'right to life'.

And why are people having babies in a war zone? Did the Supreme Court outlaw their contraception or something?
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
(07-27-2014 04:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  But they are no longer in their country, they are in our country.

That could be remedied pretty quickly, and at a lot less of a strain on our resources than keeping them here would.
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
Thankfully that won't happen.

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(07-27-2014 06:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Thankfully that won't happen.

So, you've got a couch they can crash on, I take it.
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Absolutely.

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(07-27-2014 06:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Absolutely.

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Awesome.

Jan's waiting to hear from you.

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Dixie called it, what, a year ago?
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(07-27-2014 06:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Absolutely.

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How many should we send to your address, 5,000 or 6,000. 05-stirthepot
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
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(07-27-2014 06:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Absolutely.

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How many should we send to your address, 5,000 or 6,000. 05-stirthepot

Just two. They'll multiply to 5 - 6000 in a couple of years.
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RE: Obama will take executive action on immigration after summer, adviser says
(07-27-2014 06:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 06:40 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(07-27-2014 06:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Absolutely.

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How many should we send to your address, 5,000 or 6,000. 05-stirthepot

Just two. They'll multiply to 5 - 6000 in a couple of years.

From what I hear, they will tell the landlord there's only two people living there, but the actual number cannot be determined.
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Our church is currently caring for 171 collectively.

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