Tomorrow came for 4.5 million people.

Quote:As WSJ reports, last week's geopolitical chaos and distraction was ideal for a news dump, and the White House didn't disappoint: On no legal basis, all 4.5 million residents of the five U.S. territories were quietly released from ObamaCare. It seems the costs of healthcare soared in these five territories due to uneconomic mandates - which woul dhave been a disaster PR-wise for the administration and so, under cover of catastrophe, WSJ reports all of a sudden last week HHS discovered new powers after "a careful review of this situation and the relevant statutory language," that enabled them to 'selectively exempt' American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands, and Virgin Islands from Obamacare. And all while vacationing...

As WSJ reports,


The original House and Senate bills that became the Affordable Care Act included funding for insurance exchanges in these territories, as President Obama promised when as a Senator he campaigned in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and other 2008 Democratic primaries. But the $14.5 billion in subsidies for the territories were dumped in 2010 as ballast when Democrats needed to claim the law reduced the deficit.



As a consolation, Democrats opened several public-health programs to the territories and bestowed most of ObamaCare's insurance regulations, which liberals euphemize as "consumer protections," such as requiring insurers to accept all comers and charge the same premiums regardless of patient health.

However, costs soared as no insurer would touch them...


These uneconomic mandates promptly caused insurance rates to soar and many insurers to flee the territorial markets. You can't buy any policy at any price in the Mariana Islands. So the territories have spent the last two years beseeching HHS for a regulatory exemption.

So time to change the rules... from this...


As recently as last year, HHS instructed the territories that they "have enjoyed the benefits of the applicable consumer protections" and HHS "has no legal authority to exclude the territories" from ObamaCare.

To this...


Laws are made by Congress, but all of a sudden last week HHS discovered new powers after "a careful review of this situation and the relevant statutory language."

And thus 4.5 million people in the following 5 territories are now free of the tyrannical demands of Obamacare...


American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands, and Virgin Islands.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-20...-obamacare

Typical Barry-modus operandi. Obamacare is a house of cards that is starting to fall. Give it some more time....

Going to be really hard to fix this. Dam dems are so ******* radical

There is no law. They are just making this **** up as they damn well please. HHS handing out 4.5 million exemptions to me is even worse than Obamacare itself. Combine that with dereliction of duty on the border its every man for himself. In those CA fundraisers this week, what where the donors buying? What is king BARRY giving in return......

And your mad?

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(07-25-2014 12:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And your mad?

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There’s no way you are a real teacher.

(07-25-2014 05:05 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And your mad?

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There’s no way you are a real teacher.

Phid, guys like him really don't care if this or other laws, or selective enforcement, kills the economy or hurts people, they flat carry the water for obama & co.

(07-25-2014 06:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 05:05 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And your mad?

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There’s no way you are a real teacher.

Phid, guys like him really don't care if this or other laws, or selective enforcement, kills the economy or hurts people, they flat carry the water for obama & co.

and care only about what scraps (benefits) their government masters toss to them. As long as they are benefiting they don't care who else gets hurt or taken from.

(07-25-2014 05:05 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 12:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And your mad?

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There’s no way you are a real teacher.

And you are Henry Standing Bear?

(07-25-2014 12:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And your mad?

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It's "you're", teach... No wonder our educational system fails our children.

(07-25-2014 12:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And your mad?

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Not a grammar Nazi Fit...and....Yes. I am mad.

Anyone have a reliable source on what actually happened?

(07-25-2014 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Anyone have a reliable source on what actually happened?

Sure. Democrats passed Obamacare without reading it, and are now finding out how badly it sucks.

(07-25-2014 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Anyone have a reliable source on what actually happened?

We know "reliable" for you is either the Rolling Stone, HuffPo or the DU.

If an Obama turd was in a Punch Bowl, you'd still drink the kool-aid.

The Obama administration was very reluctant to offer this exemption.

Since now it can be factually claimed that the ACA-immune Territories
will boast healthcare cost that are 60% of the ACA-burden States.

(07-25-2014 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Anyone have a reliable source on what actually happened?

Pretty much exactly what is said in the original post. The Administration continues to make up the rules as it goes along, law be damned.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...erritories

(07-25-2014 10:56 AM)jh Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Anyone have a reliable source on what actually happened?

Pretty much exactly what is said in the original post. The Administration continues to make up the rules as it goes along, law be damned.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...erritories

Thanks.

Quote:What sparked the latest change? The definition of "state" in the Public Health Service Act indicates that the ACA market rules don't apply to the territories, HHS wrote. The department said group health plans in the territories must still comply with other requirements in the law, like the ban on lifetime and annual limits, a ban on rescission and a coverage of preventive benefits (which includes contraception coverage).

Okay, so they're not states. What's the big deal?

(07-25-2014 11:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 10:56 AM)jh Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 10:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Anyone have a reliable source on what actually happened?

Pretty much exactly what is said in the original post. The Administration continues to make up the rules as it goes along, law be damned.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...erritories

Thanks.

Quote:What sparked the latest change? The definition of "state" in the Public Health Service Act indicates that the ACA market rules don't apply to the territories, HHS wrote. The department said group health plans in the territories must still comply with other requirements in the law, like the ban on lifetime and annual limits, a ban on rescission and a coverage of preventive benefits (which includes contraception coverage).

Okay, so they're not states. What's the big deal?

Hilarious. But you're so smart, and yet can't figure it out?

(07-25-2014 11:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Okay, so they're not states. What's the big deal?

If you can't understand that HHS just now, four years after the law was passed and after the applicable regulations have already been put in place and grants given in accordance with those regulations, claiming that territories aren't states for the purposes of the ACA is a problem, I'm not sure I can help you.