They came to the wrong house.

An 80-year-old California retiree shot dead a pregnant woman as she and a male accomplice tried to flee Tuesday night after breaking in and robbing the man’s home in Long Beach.

And Tom Greer has no regrets about plugging the woman with two shots as she begged for her life.

“She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby!' And I shot her anyway," Greer told KNBC-TV.

The elderly man, wearing his arm in a sling Wednesday as he spoke to a reporter, said he came back to his house in the ritzy Bixby Knolls neighborhood Tuesday evening and found the woman and a man ransacking his home.

"When I went in there, they tackled me," Greer told the news station. "Both of them jumped up on top of me."

During the struggle, Greer fell to the ground as the intruders rummaged through a safe. But the man had pocketed his .22-caliber Smith & Wesson revolver in the chaos of the moment.

"I come back and they see me with a gun, and they run," he told the NBC affiliate.

The man took off but the woman stumbled in an alley behind the home. She pleaded for her life as Greer took aim and fired.

"She was dead,” he told KNBC. “I shot her twice, she best be dead ... (The man) had run off and left her."

Cops have yet to identify the dead woman and her accomplice remains on the lam. Greer, meanwhile, was headed to the hospital to have a shoulder and collarbone injury treated, he told a reporter.

Greer said it was the first time he had shot a person — but wouldn’t be the last if anyone tries to mess with him again.

"I shot her, so that's going to leave a message on (her accomplice’s) mind for the rest of his life," Greer told the station.

It’s unclear if Greer will face charges in the shooting.


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This being in Socal it will certainly draw a large crowd of supporters for the woman and her accomplice.

(07-24-2014 04:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  This being in Socal it will certainly draw a large crowd of supporters for the woman and her accomplice.

The old man is probably toast.

(07-24-2014 04:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  This being in Socal it will certainly draw a large crowd of supporters for the woman and her accomplice.

The old man is probably toast.

He definitely is.

(07-24-2014 04:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  This being in Socal it will certainly draw a large crowd of supporters for the woman and her accomplice.

The old man is probably toast.

Gun ban rallies to follow.

Yeah...he's done. f*cking idiot, imo. He's just going to stir up more anti-gun sentiment. Why even give them the time to run though? First thing he should've done is shot at the guy...if the woman got away and pleaded with him that's when he calls the cops.

Lets see how quick the pro-choicers are to defend the pregnant woman who was killed by a gun.

(07-24-2014 04:24 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Yeah...he's done. f*cking idiot, imo. He's just going to stir up more anti-gun sentiment. Why even give them the time to run though? First thing he should've done is shot at the guy...if the woman got away and pleaded with him that's when he calls the cops.

Hmm I don't agree that he is an idiot.

Shooting someone begging for their life, in pretty much any context, is what makes him an idiot that will probably do time.

(07-24-2014 04:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Shooting someone begging for their life, in pretty much any context, is what makes him an idiot that will probably do time.

This. A pregnant woman on the ground in a back alley w. no weapon? All he had to do was tell her to keep her hands in plain sight until the police got there. She makes a move at him? Shoot her.

Like I said, he's an idiot. Not only for that, but for letting the man get away. He put himself in the position to draw the most negative reaction possible.

Not sure how I feel about the story.

Sure, I like stories of vigilante justice and self-defense. But here we had a pregnant woman begging for her life ... no longer a viable threat if she was looking down the barrel of a gun (and I'm probably a bit more sympathetic here because of the fetus growing inside her).

(07-24-2014 04:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Shooting someone begging for their life, in pretty much any context, is what makes him an idiot that will probably do time.

Yeah, saying that in a broadcast venue is not a good approach.

(07-24-2014 04:35 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Shooting someone begging for their life, in pretty much any context, is what makes him an idiot that will probably do time.

Yea, that pretty much did him in I think. He would have been fine up to that point.

They might charge him, he won't do jail time, NFW.

Well, it won't really matter. There is anit gun sentiment in California regardless. This story is not going change the fact that the majority of Americans are for less gun control.

You have to wonder why they didn't name the robbers or post pictures of them. I think I know why.

(07-24-2014 04:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Well, it won't really matter. There is anit gun sentiment in California regardless. This story is not going change the fact that the majority of Americans are for less gun control.

No they aren't.

(07-24-2014 04:44 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Well, it won't really matter. There is anit gun sentiment in California regardless. This story is not going change the fact that the majority of Americans are for less gun control.

No they aren't.

Yes they are.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/01/polls-...trol-spin/

(07-24-2014 04:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:44 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Well, it won't really matter. There is anit gun sentiment in California regardless. This story is not going change the fact that the majority of Americans are for less gun control.

No they aren't.

Yes they are.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/01/polls-...trol-spin/

When asked about gun control vs protection of gun rights, people usually fall on the side of protection. When ask about certain specifics, that can change. The problem is that people are not informed. When they are informed, they usually do not favor more of these gun control laws.

Case in point. Background checks. The left frequently talks about how people don't have to get background checks at gun shows. But, instead of just trying to close this loophole (which a small number of people use and it is rarely heard of that these guns are used to commit crimes), they try to cover family members and neighbors. They fail to talk about whether the gun show loophole ACTUAL is an issue. Instead, they try to scare people. Once people are fully informed, they usually go against these restrictions.

Currently, there are only two major "gun violence" situations: (1) crazy people and (2) urban violence. These people aren't buying at gun shows. Crazy people usually just buy at the gun store (because they aren't on the list) and urban people buy from their neighborhood street dealer. Real solutions would be to address our mentally ill populations and increase penalties for unlawful possession of firearms in these urban areas (maybe even offer a $250 reward for tips on unlawfully owned guns in these areas).

(07-24-2014 04:57 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:44 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 04:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Well, it won't really matter. There is anit gun sentiment in California regardless. This story is not going change the fact that the majority of Americans are for less gun control.

No they aren't.

Yes they are.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/01/polls-...trol-spin/

When asked about gun control vs protection of gun rights, people usually fall on the side of protection. When ask about certain specifics, that can change. The problem is that people are not informed. When they are informed, they usually do not favor more of these gun control laws.

Case in point. Background checks. The left frequently talks about how people don't have to get background checks at gun shows. But, instead of just trying to close this loophole (which a small number of people use and it is rarely heard of that these guns are used to commit crimes), they try to cover family members and neighbors. They fail to talk about whether the gun show loophole ACTUAL is an issue. Instead, they try to scare people. Once people are fully informed, they usually go against these restrictions.

Currently, there are only two major "gun violence" situations: (1) crazy people and (2) urban violence. These people aren't buying at gun shows. Crazy people usually just buy at the gun store (because they aren't on the list) and urban people buy from their neighborhood street dealer. Real solutions would be to address our mentally ill populations and increase penalties for unlawful possession of firearms in these urban areas (maybe even offer a $250 reward for tips on unlawfully owned guns in these areas).

Not to continue the diversion of the topic, but I read his statement to say that people want to remove gun restrictions that are in place, as opposed to not adding further restrictions.