I just love it when liberals trip over political correctness.

Quote:Lawyer: Lesbians’ assault on gay man can’t be hate crime


Three women identified by their lawyers as lesbians were arraigned yesterday on a hate crime charge for allegedly beating a gay man at the Forest Hills T station in an unusual case that experts say exposes the law’s flawed logic.

“My guess is that no sane jury would convict them under those circumstances, but what this really demonstrates is the idiocy of the hate-crime legislation,” said civil liberties lawyer Harvey Silverglate. “If you beat someone up, you’re guilty of assault and battery of a human being. Period. The idea of trying to break down human beings into categories is doomed to failure.”


Prosecutors and the ACLU of Massachusetts said no matter the defendants’ sexual orientation, they can still face the crime of assault and battery with intent to intimidate, which carries up to a 10-year prison sentence, by using hateful language.

“Someone who is Jewish can be anti-Semitic,” said ACLU staff attorney Sarah Wunsch. “The mere fact that someone is a member of the same class doesn’t mean they could not be motivated by hatred for their very own group.”

But Carolyn Euell, 38, mother of two of the defendants, Erika Stroud, 21, of Dorchester and Felicia Stroud, 18, West Roxbury, told reporters the alleged attack “can’t be hateful” because both her daughters are lesbians.

Prosecutor Lindsey Weinstein said the two sisters and one of their domestic partners, Lydia Sanford, also a defendant, viciously beat the man Sunday, repeatedly punching and kicking him after he bumped them with his backpack on a stairwell.

She said the victim, who suffered a broken nose, told cops he believed the attack was “motivated as a crime because of his sexual orientation” since the three women “called him insulting homophobic slurs.”

But attorney Helene Tomlinson, who represented Sanford, told the judge her client is “openly identified as a lesbian ... so any homophobic (conduct) is unwarranted.” She said the alleged victim was the aggressor and used racial slurs: “He provoked them.”

Felicia Stroud’s attorney, C. Harold Krasnow, said, “They don’t know what his sexual orientation is, just like he doesn’t know what theirs is.”

Krasnow later noted the low bail the judge gave the women, $100 to $500 cash, and suggested the prosecution’s case was weak.

Civil-rights attorney Chester Darling agreed. “No one should go to court. It’s knuckle justice,” he said. “It’s a fair exchange.”

But Jake Wark, a spokesman for Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley, said prosecutors will have no problem proving the women committed a hate crime, even if they are lesbians.

“The defendants’ particular orientation or alleged orientations have no bearing on our ability to prosecute for allegedly targeting a person who they believe to be different from them,” he said.

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I don't know what's funnier, the fact that the dykes beat the girlie gay dude up, or the merry-go-round of who is gay and why it makes a difference.

It's all about the he's gay she's gay bullshiit, I think you better quit, lettin shiit slip, or you'll be leaving with a fat lip.

People are going to realize that these leftist agendas are truly deals with the Devil.

(07-24-2014 02:51 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  People are going to realize that these leftist agendas are truly deals with the Devil.

They're all beginning to come full circle. Same as obama flashing his twat to minorities for votes and how those same minorities are now turning their backs and questioning why he's coddling the balls of illegals instead of them now.

Oh puh-lease. The ACLU lawyer said it best - Jews can be anti-Semitic. Just look at the Zionist political violence of the 40's when they Jewish extremists went around killing lots of Jewish moderates. Lesbians have a rep in LGBT circles of being polar opposite of gay men and "rivals" so this doesn't surprise me.

Considering that both Jews and Arabs are Semitic, it's actually quite easy for both sides to be anti-Semitic.

That's one problem for the Palestinians. They claim to be (and to at least some extent are) descendants of the ancient Philistines, who were most likely not Semitic. 3000 years of intermarriage has pretty much removed that distinction physically, but it remains in the minds of the Arabs (and Palestinians).

3 dudes beat up a chick.

Got it.

(07-24-2014 03:06 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  3 dudes beat up a chick.

Got it.

I guess everything isn't so perfect in Gayville?

The funny part is those girls probably aren't even real lesbians. They are just following the new "let's be gay" trend that is all the rage among teens and 20 somethings.

(07-24-2014 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The funny part is those girls probably aren't even real lesbians. They are just following the new "let's be gay" trend that is all the rage among teens and 20 somethings.

What better to help them escape a "hate crime."

(07-24-2014 03:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The funny part is those girls probably aren't even real lesbians. They are just following the new "let's be gay" trend that is all the rage among teens and 20 somethings.

What better to help them escape a "hate crime."

Kinda like those people who actually say that racism cannot come from a minority.

(07-24-2014 03:22 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 03:20 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(07-24-2014 03:17 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The funny part is those girls probably aren't even real lesbians. They are just following the new "let's be gay" trend that is all the rage among teens and 20 somethings.

What better to help them escape a "hate crime."

Kinda like those people who actually say that racism cannot come from a minority.

Exactly.

Liberals? No where did I see their political affiliation.

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(07-24-2014 03:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Liberals? No where did I see their political affiliation.

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You don't have to. You might think it's a broad brush I'm painting with, but it's a stroke of common sense. Unless they fall into the slim to none column of gay Republicans. Highly unlikely.

(07-24-2014 03:06 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  3 dudes beat up a chick.

Got it.

that is funny..but what is the difference if they are bulldyke tuff gals and he was fem and demure?

Somebody gets it.

Quote:“If you beat someone up, you’re guilty of assault and battery of a human being. Period. The idea of trying to break down human beings into categories is doomed to failure.”

For reference, these are two of the three violent and sexually insensitive lesbian bigots.

I never understood the hate crime logic. What difference does it make who did it and why? They did it, that's all.

(07-24-2014 04:49 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  I never understood the hate crime logic. What difference does it make who did it and why? They did it, that's all.

Because it's a solely emotionally driven idea.. There is no logic to it.