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"Why I am no longer a leftist"
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/t...ftist.html

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Quote:How far left was I? So far left my beloved uncle was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party in a Communist country. When I returned to his Slovak village to buy him a mass card, the priest refused to sell me one. So far left that a self-identified terrorist proposed marriage to me. So far left I was a two-time Peace Corps volunteer and I have a degree from UC Berkeley. So far left that my Teamster mother used to tell anyone who would listen that she voted for Gus Hall, Communist Party chairman, for president. I wore a button saying "Eat the Rich." To me it wasn't a metaphor.

Below are the top ten reasons I am no longer a leftist.

1) Hate.

If hate were the only reason, I'd stop being a leftist for this reason alone.

Almost twenty years ago, when I could not conceive of ever being anything but a leftist, I joined a left-wing online discussion forum.

Before that I'd had twenty years of face-to-face participation in leftist politics: marching, organizing, socializing.

In this online forum, suddenly my only contact with others was the words those others typed onto a screen. That limited and focused means of contact revealed something.

If you took all the words typed into the forum every day and arranged them according to what part of speech they were, you'd quickly notice that nouns expressing the emotions of anger, aggression, and disgust, and verbs speaking of destruction, punishing, and wreaking vengeance, outnumbered any other class of words.

One topic thread was entitled "What do you view as disgusting about modern America?" The thread was begun in 2002. Almost eight thousand posts later, the thread was still going strong in June, 2014.

Those posting messages in this left-wing forum publicly announced that they did what they did every day, from voting to attending a rally to planning a life, because they wanted to destroy something, and because they hated someone, rather than because they wanted to build something, or because they loved someone. You went to an anti-war rally because you hated Bush, not because you loved peace. Thus, when Obama bombed, you didn't hold any anti-war rally, because you didn't hate Obama.
I experienced powerful cognitive dissonance when I recognized the hate. The rightest of my right-wing acquaintances -- I had no right-wing friends -- expressed nothing like this. My right-wing acquaintances talked about loving: God, their family, their community. I'm not saying that the right-wingers I knew were better people; I don't know that they were. I'm speaking here, merely, about language.

In 1995 I developed a crippling illness. I couldn't work, lost my life savings, and traveled through three states, from surgery to surgery.

A left-wing friend, Pete, sent me emails raging against Republicans like George Bush, whom he referred to as "Bushitler." The Republicans were to blame because they opposed socialized medicine. In fact it's not at all certain that socialized medicine would have helped; the condition I had is not common and there was no guaranteed treatment.

I visited online discussion forums for others with the same affliction. One of my fellow sufferers, who identified himself as a successful corporate executive in New Jersey, publicly announced that the symptoms were so hideous, and his helpless slide into poverty was so much not what his wife had bargained for when she married him, that he planned to take his own life. He stopped posting after that announcement, though I responded to his post and requested a reply. It is possible that he committed suicide, exactly as he said he would -- car exhaust in the garage. I suddenly realized that my "eat the rich" lapel button was a sin premised on a lie.

In any case, at the time I was diagnosed, Bush wasn't president; Clinton was. And, as I pointed out to Pete, his unceasing and vehement expressions of hatred against Republicans did nothing for me.

I had a friend, a nun, Mary Montgomery, one of the Sisters of Providence, who took me out to lunch every six months or so, and gave me twenty-dollar Target gift cards on Christmas. Her gestures to support someone, rather than expressions of hate against someone -- even though these gestures were miniscule and did nothing to restore me to health -- meant a great deal to me.

Recently, I was trying to explain this aspect of why I stopped being a leftist to a left-wing friend, Julie. She replied, "No, I'm not an unpleasant person. I try to be nice to everybody."

"Julie," I said, "You are an active member of the Occupy Movement. You could spend your days teaching children to read, or visiting the elderly in nursing homes, or organizing cleanup crews in a garbage-strewn slum. You don't. You spend your time protestingand trying to destroy something -- capitalism."

"Yes, but I'm very nice about it," she insisted. "I always protest with a smile."

Pete is now a Facebook friend and his feed overflows with the anger that I'm sure he assesses as righteous. He protests against homophobic Christians, American imperialists, and Monsanto. I don't know if Pete ever donates to an organization he believes in, or a person suffering from a disease, or if he ever says comforting things to afflicted intimates. I know he hates.

I do have right-wing friends now and they do get angry and they do express that anger. But when I encounter unhinged, stratospheric vituperation, when I encounter detailed revenge fantasies in scatological and sadistic language, I know I've stumbled upon a left-wing website.

Given that the left prides itself on being the liberator of women, homosexuals, and on being "sex positive," one of the weirder and most obvious aspects of left-wing hate is how often, and how virulently, it is expressed in terms that are misogynist, homophobic, and in the distinctive anti-sex voice of a sexually frustrated high-school misfit. Haters are aware enough of how uncool it would be to use a slur like "fag," so they sprinkle their discourse with terms indicating anal rape like "butt hurt." Leftists taunt right-wingers as "tea baggers." The implication is that the target of their slur is either a woman or a gay man being orally penetrated by a man, and is, therefore, inferior, and despicable.

Misogynist speech has a long tradition on the left. In 1964, Stokely Carmichael said that the only position for women in the Civil Rights Movement was "prone." Carmichael's misogyny is all the more outrageous given the very real role of women like Rosa Parks, Viola Liuzzo, and Fannie Lou Hamer.

In 2012 atheist bloggers Jennifer McCreight and Natalie Reed exposed the degree to which misogyny dominates the New Atheist movement. McCreight quoted a prominent atheist's reply to a woman critic. "I will make you a rape victim if you don't **** off... I think we should give the guy who raped you a medal. I hope you ******* drown in rape semen, you ugly, mean-spirited cow… Is that kind of like the way that rapists dick went in your *****? Or did he use your *******… I'm going to rape you with my fist."

A high-profile example of leftist invective was delivered by MSNBC's Martin Bashir in late 2013. Bashir said, on air and in a rehearsed performance, not as part of a moment's loss of control, something so vile about Sarah Palin that I won't repeat it here. Extreme as it is, Bashir's comment is fairly representative of a good percentage of what I read on left-wing websites.

I could say as much about a truly frightening phenomenon, left-wing anti-Semitism, but I'll leave the topic to others better qualified. I can say that when I first encountered it, at a PLO fundraising party in Marin County, I felt as if I had time-traveled to pre-war Berlin.

I needed to leave the left, I realized, when I decided that I wanted to spend time with people building, cultivating, and establishing, something that they loved.
07-24-2014 10:38 AM
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RE: "Why I am no longer a leftist"
You get wiser when you get older.
All those life experiences finally add up.
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The extremism in ideology exists on both sides. Hate is prevalent among far-left and far-right groups for strange and illogical reasons. I am perfectly comfortable being a moderate liberal and viewing things from both sides of the argument. My judgements are sound to me, maybe not to some of you screamin' extremists on here, but they are mine and they make sense to me. I'm sure there are those who truly believe the far-left and far-right opinions, but I can't see how a person with all their marbles would do so.
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(07-24-2014 11:37 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The extremism in ideology exists on both sides. Hate is prevalent among far-left and far-right groups for strange and illogical reasons. I am perfectly comfortable being a moderate liberal and viewing things from both sides of the argument. My judgements are sound to me, maybe not to some of you screamin' extremists on here, but they are mine and they make sense to me. I'm sure there are those who truly believe the far-left and far-right opinions, but I can't see how a person with all their marbles would do so.

It's funny that you made the post all about you.
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RE: "Why I am no longer a leftist"
Glad that women converted.
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(07-24-2014 01:28 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 11:37 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The extremism in ideology exists on both sides. Hate is prevalent among far-left and far-right groups for strange and illogical reasons. I am perfectly comfortable being a moderate liberal and viewing things from both sides of the argument. My judgements are sound to me, maybe not to some of you screamin' extremists on here, but they are mine and they make sense to me. I'm sure there are those who truly believe the far-left and far-right opinions, but I can't see how a person with all their marbles would do so.

It's funny that you made the post all about you.

The point, which I think went *whoosh* over your head, is that everyone has their own opinion and they are typically hard-set in it, making it hard to change beliefs or be open to other opinions. I am glad that lady was able to change her ideology.
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RE: "Why I am no longer a leftist"
(07-24-2014 02:58 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 01:28 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 11:37 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The extremism in ideology exists on both sides. Hate is prevalent among far-left and far-right groups for strange and illogical reasons. I am perfectly comfortable being a moderate liberal and viewing things from both sides of the argument. My judgements are sound to me, maybe not to some of you screamin' extremists on here, but they are mine and they make sense to me. I'm sure there are those who truly believe the far-left and far-right opinions, but I can't see how a person with all their marbles would do so.

It's funny that you made the post all about you.

The point, which I think went *whoosh* over your head, is that everyone has their own opinion and they are typically hard-set in it, making it hard to change beliefs or be open to other opinions. I am glad that lady was able to change her ideology.

Oh, was that your point? 03-lol

Because I'm pretty sure that wasn't anywhere in the love letter you wrote to yourself.
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lefties staying as far away as possible here

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Great piece , got through all of the points.
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(07-24-2014 01:28 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 11:37 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The extremism in ideology exists on both sides. Hate is prevalent among far-left and far-right groups for strange and illogical reasons. I am perfectly comfortable being a moderate liberal and viewing things from both sides of the argument. My judgements are sound to me, maybe not to some of you screamin' extremists on here, but they are mine and they make sense to me. I'm sure there are those who truly believe the far-left and far-right opinions, but I can't see how a person with all their marbles would do so.

It's funny that you made the post all about you.

And used derogatory language with which to do so...
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It really was an excellent expose of the hypocrisy and downright vileness of the left. One of my best friends identifies himself as a liberal, he even voted for Barry twice - although he does admit to now regretting it. His standard response to any questioning of his ideology - such as it is - is to name call, often yelling. Yet he really is a confused soul as he claims he is very religious, hates abortion and homo's but is a proud union member and hates capitalism. Go figure...
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