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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
(07-24-2014 09:01 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 04:03 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  That's very little coverage. I believe they mentioned a year as so or ago when Tech was briefly in the top 25. Honestly that is the only thing I can remember. I travel the Causeway everyday and it is common to see Cajun decals and every once in a while you will see a Tech one. You're not trying to claim the NOLA market? Tech does have a few alumni around here but nothing like the Cajuns. I'm sure Shreveport is a different story.

Winning and getting our large NOLA Alumni base to travel two hours is the key to growing our program. USM has a large alumni base here too. I would love to see an annual game between us in the Superdome.

Has the Cajun athletic department recognized that fact and made an effort to encourage our alumni scattered throughout the greater NO area to attend some of our home games? It's not that bad a drive at all.

The city would benefit too from increased tourism.....hotels and restaurants especially. Maybe even encourage some of the hotels and restaurants to give special rates for those visiting to attend games? Dunno, just thinking off the top of my skull cap.

Hud has done spots on WWL radio but that's about it. A few TV spots would do the trick. Most local alumni I know are always looking for a reason to head to Lafayette. The food in NOLA is good but it's different than Lafayette. They don't stay on top of things and many don't know we are posed to have a magical season.
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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
(07-24-2014 06:47 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 04:03 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  
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(07-24-2014 10:38 AM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  Life-long GNO resident. You're close but not quite there. Grandfather and father grew up Tulane fans.

Tulane has been marginalized in New Orleans, almost to the point of obscurity. The stadium should help some. But frankly, it's too little, too late. Their problem is that they don't have enough local students, and thus, alumni. The days of growing up a Tulane fan just because they are the local team seem to have passed New Orleans by, just like the school itself.

There will never be continued support for either ULL or LA Tech in New Orleans, regardless of sustained winning. They'll both get a little coverage, and I'll give you that ULL tends to get a little more notice than Tech when they win. But New Orleans is all about the Saints. Always have been, always will be. There is just no room left to care about any other team as much, including LSU. They're squarely the second fiddle, and will never trump the Saints.

When I first moved here in 93 it was all Saints with a little LSU and Tulane sprinkled in. LSU sucked back then. Over the last decade or so with LSU doing well, people went to Baton Rouge and Tulane fell by the wayside. LA Tech is NEVER mentioned. There's a ton of alumni here. If we could manage to get into the top 25 they will cover us. WWL does a little bit called "Louisiana Made and Louisiana Proud", UL was on one of those spots. I've never seen another non local university highlighted in one of those sports.

We got a decent bit of coverage during the 2011/2012 Seasons, and last year since we shared conference with CUSA, especially hoops season. You're just not looking for it. It's there.

That's very little coverage. I believe they mentioned a year as so or ago when Tech was briefly in the top 25. Honestly that is the only thing I can remember. I travel the Causeway everyday and it is common to see Cajun decals and every once in a while you will see a Tech one. You're not trying to claim the NOLA market? Tech does have a few alumni around here but nothing like the Cajuns. I'm sure Shreveport is a different story.

Winning and getting our large NOLA Alumni base to travel two hours is the key to growing our program. USM has a large alumni base here too. I would love to see an annual game between us in the Superdome.

Shreveport is the biggest melting pot ever. Nobody but LSU has a decent percent support here.

When I was working in Shreveport, heard a little Bulldog and Cajun talk but a lot of Saints vs. Cowboys smack and the quickest way to get two people arguing Saints-Cowboys to quit arguing was to talk LSU.
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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
(07-24-2014 06:47 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 04:03 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 01:36 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 12:47 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 10:38 AM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  Life-long GNO resident. You're close but not quite there. Grandfather and father grew up Tulane fans.

Tulane has been marginalized in New Orleans, almost to the point of obscurity. The stadium should help some. But frankly, it's too little, too late. Their problem is that they don't have enough local students, and thus, alumni. The days of growing up a Tulane fan just because they are the local team seem to have passed New Orleans by, just like the school itself.

There will never be continued support for either ULL or LA Tech in New Orleans, regardless of sustained winning. They'll both get a little coverage, and I'll give you that ULL tends to get a little more notice than Tech when they win. But New Orleans is all about the Saints. Always have been, always will be. There is just no room left to care about any other team as much, including LSU. They're squarely the second fiddle, and will never trump the Saints.

When I first moved here in 93 it was all Saints with a little LSU and Tulane sprinkled in. LSU sucked back then. Over the last decade or so with LSU doing well, people went to Baton Rouge and Tulane fell by the wayside. LA Tech is NEVER mentioned. There's a ton of alumni here. If we could manage to get into the top 25 they will cover us. WWL does a little bit called "Louisiana Made and Louisiana Proud", UL was on one of those spots. I've never seen another non local university highlighted in one of those sports.

We got a decent bit of coverage during the 2011/2012 Seasons, and last year since we shared conference with CUSA, especially hoops season. You're just not looking for it. It's there.

That's very little coverage. I believe they mentioned a year as so or ago when Tech was briefly in the top 25. Honestly that is the only thing I can remember. I travel the Causeway everyday and it is common to see Cajun decals and every once in a while you will see a Tech one. You're not trying to claim the NOLA market? Tech does have a few alumni around here but nothing like the Cajuns. I'm sure Shreveport is a different story.

Winning and getting our large NOLA Alumni base to travel two hours is the key to growing our program. USM has a large alumni base here too. I would love to see an annual game between us in the Superdome.

Shreveport is the biggest melting pot ever. Nobody but LSU has a decent percent support here.

Actually if you think Shreveport is a melting pot, try Memphis. I call it the Beirut of college football because there are such large numbers of UArk, UT, and OM fans in addition to the Memphis hoops fans who will go to football.
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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
Tulane has few fans in New Orleans. Here's why

1) Few in New Orleans went there. Most of their alumni are from somewhere else and leave after graduation.
2) Fewer in New Orleans can afford to send their kids there.

Add in a putrid history of success in major sports, and a steady downgrade in competition (even with the move to AAC - its not as compelling as the Tulane schedule of the early 2000's and before) and you get a recipe for 2500 a game.

They'll sell out the first game at Yulman, and then sink down to 11k a game by the end of this year. Unless they win 9 games (they won't), next year will see numbers shrink below 10k again.

Why bother rooting for a school that you have no ownership in?
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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
(07-25-2014 02:04 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Tulane has few fans in New Orleans. Here's why

1) Few in New Orleans went there. Most of their alumni are from somewhere else and leave after graduation.
2) Fewer in New Orleans can afford to send their kids there.

Add in a putrid history of success in major sports, and a steady downgrade in competition (even with the move to AAC - its not as compelling as the Tulane schedule of the early 2000's and before) and you get a recipe for 2500 a game.

They'll sell out the first game at Yulman, and then sink down to 11k a game by the end of this year. Unless they win 9 games (they won't), next year will see numbers shrink below 10k again.

Why bother rooting for a school that you have no ownership in?

Also I found the locals last year for the majority were pulling for us. A lot of people that live in New Orleans feel that Tulane fans think they are above the locals. They related to us more and after seeing us for 2 years had kind of jumped on our wagon. Sure the amount of money we put in everyone's pockets for 2 years helped but if Tulane ever wants to have good crowds again they need to reach back into the community and try to make a connection with the people that aren't extremely wealthy or doctor and lawyers.
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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
(07-25-2014 02:04 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Tulane has few fans in New Orleans. Here's why

1) Few in New Orleans went there. Most of their alumni are from somewhere else and leave after graduation.
2) Fewer in New Orleans can afford to send their kids there.

Add in a putrid history of success in major sports, and a steady downgrade in competition (even with the move to AAC - its not as compelling as the Tulane schedule of the early 2000's and before) and you get a recipe for 2500 a game.

They'll sell out the first game at Yulman, and then sink down to 11k a game by the end of this year. Unless they win 9 games (they won't), next year will see numbers shrink below 10k again.

Why bother rooting for a school that you have no ownership in?

First two are spot on...can't fault them for that at all..
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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
Thanks for thinking of us OP! Win and fans will come/return, lose and we'll wallow in an empty stadium. Pretty par for the course. But even with the losing, our NOLA presence has always been > ULLs. Saints and LSU dwarf all though.
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(07-26-2014 08:05 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Thanks for thinking of us OP! Win and fans will come/return, lose and we'll wallow in an empty stadium. Pretty par for the course. But even with the losing, our NOLA presence has always been > ULLs. Saints and LSU dwarf all though.

That's fine, gives us a goal, a reachable goal in my opinion.
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(07-26-2014 08:05 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Thanks for thinking of us OP! Win and fans will come/return, lose and we'll wallow in an empty stadium. Pretty par for the course. But even with the losing, our NOLA presence has always been > ULLs. Saints and LSU dwarf all though.

Yea, but no shade, Tulane doesn't deliver the New Orleans market. Very few private schools garner casual fans (those with no connection to the university). And Tulane's relationship with New Orleans is worse than other private schools.

USC and Syracuse do it better than most. Notre Dame and BYU have major religions pushing them, but other private schools have difficulty. SMU does a better job than Tulane in community outreach and their attendance still sucks. Its not Tulane, its private school.

I am a graduate of George Washington (which in many respects is a peer of Tulane - both ridiculously expensive schools with highly selective admissions located in cities where few send their kids to the school). Even when we produce good and even great basketball teams, we barely break into the DC sports discussion. Our games are attended by students and alumni and few others. And its not going to change anytime soon. It won't do that either for Tulane.

Tulane doesn't deliver much of a market, even when they win. They averaged 27k when they went undefeated. And that was helped by two intrastate games as well.

Moving to Yulman will help. But Tulane has so far to go (we all know what the real attendance look like there).
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RE: Tulane delivers the NOLA market?
Well, as I've said often, when I attended USL I was very impressed with the number of New Orleans area students who attended. Don't know if that's still the case, but one would think it'd be easier to get former students excited about the Cajun program than just casual fans and I'm betting the Cajuns have far more alumni in that area than Tulane. As JD said though, it all starts with winning.

I'd really like to see the Cajuns play at least one regular season game in the Super Dome every year, perhaps early in the season against either Tulane or Southern Miss.....or perhaps an SEC team if it could be worked out.
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(07-26-2014 08:05 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Thanks for thinking of us OP! Win and fans will come/return, lose and we'll wallow in an empty stadium. Pretty par for the course. But even with the losing, our NOLA presence has always been > ULLs. Saints and LSU dwarf all though.

I wouldn't argue with you. Tulane gets coverage almost ever night. I believe I put the pecking order: Saints, LSU, Pelicans, Tulane and UL only if we are doing something big like we did in baseball this summer. Besides the occasional SLU and UNO spots we are the only other state school that gets any time. The point is that Tulane really doesn't deliver the NOLA market. If you guys start to win and fill up that stadium and the locals to stop going to BR that will change. Tulane is unique with their alumni all over the country. Our job is to keep winning and growing to get our alumni to come to Lafayette. I by no means meant to suggest we were a nightly feature on any NOLA sports broadcast. If we become a top 25 program we will become an almost nightly feature as our alumni here jump on the wagon.
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