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Football playoff official Hancock says Marshall.....
Has no chance of getting into the playoff this season even if they go undefeated. Schedule just to soft. The gentleman's names is Bill Hancock, and he gave this quote to a Southern Miss sports writer who is at the conf meeting in Dallas. This sucks for CUSA because with Cato they have a shot to be special this season. If they go 12-0 and are left out, it's gonna look bad.
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RE: Football playoff official Hancock says Marshall.....
Again, this guy (Hancock) mentions "PLAYOFF."

Well, DUH. No G5 member is going to make the 4 team playoff...probably ever. And certainly Marshall won't at 13-0.

If he's talking Access Bowl, he may still be right, but no lock on that. If the best the G5 can muster is a 11-2 team to compete, then a Marshall team at 13-0 if we are fortunate enough and lucky enough to go that (absolutely no guarantee on that, my friends) will go to the Access Bowl.)
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(07-23-2014 05:56 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  Well, DUH. No G5 member is going to make the 4 team playoff...probably ever. And certainly Marshall won't at 13-0.

Assuming this year's playoff structure, recent TCU and Boise teams probably would have made the final group of 4 ... so it is somewhat possible. But - it will probably take not only a considerable amount of pre-season hype but all at least 1 P5 pre-conference win (and probably 2).
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RE: Football playoff official Hancock says Marshall.....
Don't people get to vote on this? You can't really predict that sort of thing... although I predict Marshall's season to end with a loss in the Hearts of Palm Bowl.
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RE: Football playoff official Hancock says Marshall.....
I think one benefit Marshall does have IF the Herd does go 13-0 is that unlike a lot of recent busters, Marshall is getting attention at the start of the season, and will be getting votes, if not in the Top 25, at the start of the season, rather than starting to get attention around week 6. I think as long as Marshall keeps winning, it will be a season of watching teams above Marahall lose. I think the Herd will ultimately have a glass ceiling due to schedule, but 1999 - also a relatively weak schedule - got the Herd to 10th. If that's the case, I think the committee will have a very hard time keeping an undefeated "top ten" team out of the Access Bowl.

I concur that Marshall has no real shot at the 4 team playoff. Even though I think we have a strong squad this coming year, I'm not pretending we're in the conversation of absolute best in the nation, either.
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RE: Football playoff official Hancock says Marshall.....
On paper, Marshall's schedule looks easy, and it probably is. However, I can't remember the last time I watched an NCAA D-1 football game played on paper. This schedule might end up being a *****. C-USA might have several good teams this season. Let's say they play a ranked North Texas squad in the championship after beating a ranked Rice team and an MTSU team that is receiving votes, and a Southern Miss team that's bowl eligible (one can dream)... Then, at 13-0, the talking heads aren't so smug anymore.
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RE: Football playoff official Hancock says Marshall.....
My biggest hope for the season is that our guys don't buy into the hype, minimize mistakes, and treat every game on it's own merits.

That is a huge order. But if they can do those three things, then when the dust settles they'll know how good they are (or aren't) and so will everyone else.
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(07-23-2014 07:49 PM)Noodles Wrote:  On paper, Marshall's schedule looks easy, and it probably is. However, I can't remember the last time I watched an NCAA D-1 football game played on paper. This schedule might end up being a *****. C-USA might have several good teams this season. Let's say they play a ranked North Texas squad in the championship after beating a ranked Rice team and an MTSU team that is receiving votes, and a Southern Miss team that's bowl eligible (one can dream)... Then, at 13-0, the talking heads aren't so smug anymore.

My thoughts exactly. A schedule can't be too soft before a damn game is even played. I too expect the schedule to be an issue, but I wouldn't automatically exclude them because of that. For somebody who is supposed to be objective about things, that is a really ****** thing to say.
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(07-23-2014 08:07 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:49 PM)Noodles Wrote:  On paper, Marshall's schedule looks easy, and it probably is. However, I can't remember the last time I watched an NCAA D-1 football game played on paper. This schedule might end up being a *****. C-USA might have several good teams this season. Let's say they play a ranked North Texas squad in the championship after beating a ranked Rice team and an MTSU team that is receiving votes, and a Southern Miss team that's bowl eligible (one can dream)... Then, at 13-0, the talking heads aren't so smug anymore.

My thoughts exactly. A schedule can't be too soft before a damn game is even played. I too expect the schedule to be an issue, but I wouldn't automatically exclude them because of that. For somebody who is supposed to be objective about things, that is a really ****** thing to say.

A team can't be 13-0 before a damn game is even played either...lol. It's just as legit to talk about schedule strength as it is to talk about how a team may hypothetically finish. After all, Marshall's schedule strength is the reason for all the talk about a possible undefeated season in the first place.

That said, there's no way they'd make it into a playoff or even an access bowl if they go undefeated against that schedule.
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So you believe an 10-2 AAC team goes in front of a 13-0 CUSA team? I don't.

Here's the thing, if (huge if) Marshall goes 13-0 it will come down to a lot of factors. Did the schedule end up being as weak as preseason rankings indicated? What if it does but Marshall wins by an average of 25 ppg and Cato throws for 45 TDs, only 3 ints, and 4,000 yards and is getting serious hype to get an invite to NYC? How do the other top G5 teams look? If UCF wins the AAC with a 9-3 record do you still think they get the nod?
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The only chance ANY G5 team will have to get into this 4-team farce of a playoff is to have no more than 3 P5 teams TOTAL finish with less than 2 losses and the G5 team be undefeated. And even then it would be no sure thing. Won't matter what team, won't matter what year.

Until the farce is expanded to a minimum of 8 or preferably to at least 16 teams, I'm not holding my breath.
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(07-23-2014 09:31 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  The only chance ANY G5 team will have to get into this 4-team farce of a playoff is to have no more than 3 P5 teams TOTAL finish with less than 2 losses and the G5 team be undefeated. And even then it would be no sure thing. Won't matter what team, won't matter what year.

Until the farce is expanded to a minimum of 8 or preferably to at least 16 teams, I'm not holding my breath.

I still think the NCAA's could have shut everyone up with the 16 team playoff locked in sooner rather than later... 11 conference champs, 5 at larges.

But they didn't want to piss of the "big-wigs" in the SEC. Hell, the SEC would have probably taken 3 of those 5 at larges most years.
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(07-23-2014 09:40 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 09:31 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  The only chance ANY G5 team will have to get into this 4-team farce of a playoff is to have no more than 3 P5 teams TOTAL finish with less than 2 losses and the G5 team be undefeated. And even then it would be no sure thing. Won't matter what team, won't matter what year.

Until the farce is expanded to a minimum of 8 or preferably to at least 16 teams, I'm not holding my breath.

I still think the NCAA's could have shut everyone up with the 16 team playoff locked in sooner rather than later... 11 conference champs, 5 at larges.

But they didn't want to piss of the "big-wigs" in the SEC. Hell, the SEC would have probably taken 3 of those 5 at larges most years.

You're talking about a schedule that would consist of potentially up to 17 games for a couple of college football teams. When you go to a playoff system, you can't just go in that deep, that fast unless you've got someone lying there spread eagle just begging for it.
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Hey Marshall fans! Why don't you start playing some games instead of all of these "we are the greatest team because we have Kato" types of threads!
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(07-24-2014 07:48 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  Hey Marshall fans! Why don't you start playing some games instead of all of these "we are the greatest team because we have Kato" types of threads!

I have yet to see a Marshall fan proclaim we are the greatest team. Mostly its a link from a media outlet or a blog that's been posted. We had a good year last year but the 8 previous were pitiful. We can't pound our chests just yet.

Games aren't played on paper and anyone who has played sports at any level knows how incredibly hard it is to go undefeated in anything.

We'll have to play very well each game and stay healthy to have a shot. Personally, I don't think we will. Just too much pressure on these kids. Adversity will hit at some point and the pressure will be too great. jmo.

If we win the league, that's my top goal. Everything else would be icing on the cake.
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(07-23-2014 08:40 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:07 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:49 PM)Noodles Wrote:  On paper, Marshall's schedule looks easy, and it probably is. However, I can't remember the last time I watched an NCAA D-1 football game played on paper. This schedule might end up being a *****. C-USA might have several good teams this season. Let's say they play a ranked North Texas squad in the championship after beating a ranked Rice team and an MTSU team that is receiving votes, and a Southern Miss team that's bowl eligible (one can dream)... Then, at 13-0, the talking heads aren't so smug anymore.

My thoughts exactly. A schedule can't be too soft before a damn game is even played. I too expect the schedule to be an issue, but I wouldn't automatically exclude them because of that. For somebody who is supposed to be objective about things, that is a really ****** thing to say.

A team can't be 13-0 before a damn game is even played either...lol. It's just as legit to talk about schedule strength as it is to talk about how a team may hypothetically finish. After all, Marshall's schedule strength is the reason for all the talk about a possible undefeated season in the first place.

That said, there's no way they'd make it into a playoff or even an access bowl if they go undefeated against that schedule.

I would expect somebody on the selection committee to at least act professionally. Basically declaring a team dead before the season even starts is complete and utter bull****. We are all aware of the hurdles Marshall will face, but our job isn't to pick the 4 playoff teams. I don't know who that guy is, but it's crap that he can make these comments publicly and be a part of the committee.
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(07-24-2014 07:48 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  Hey Marshall fans! Why don't you start playing some games instead of all of these "we are the greatest team because we have Kato" types of threads!

Hey! The season hasn't started, so we can't play any games right now!

This thread wasn't even started by a Marshall fan!

Also, it's Cato! Kato was the Green Hornet's sidekick!

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Anyone who says a 13-0 (all hypothetical--far from a lock or likely) Marshall team with tons of preseason attention has "no chance" at the access bowl is an idiot.

Going undefeated is extremely difficult. I don't care how easy your schedule is. Very very very few college football teams do it. I find it extremely hard to believe that if a Marshall team that will have many votes in all the polls before the season somehow manages to go 13-0 will be left out UNLESS a team like UCF or UC goes undefeated.

Frankly, I think it is LIKELY that a 13-0 Marshall team would get the slot. Just my opinion. Not trying to be a homer. I'd say the same thing if we were talking about UTSA, Tulane, La Tech, Louisiana Monroe, Ohio U, Miami U, UC, UCF, or any other non-AQ school. If you go 13-0 in a non-AQ league, your chances of getting the access slot are extremely good.
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(07-24-2014 07:48 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  Hey Marshall fans! Why don't you start playing some games instead of all of these "we are the greatest team because we have Kato" types of threads!

In fairness to Marshall fans, I started all of this by posting the link to the g5news blog. Although Marshall was a rival of ECU, I still like to think of myself as fair sports fan. I think if Marshall goes undefeated, yes it will be hard to do, they should get the Access Bowl slot.
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(07-24-2014 10:00 AM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 07:48 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  Hey Marshall fans! Why don't you start playing some games instead of all of these "we are the greatest team because we have Kato" types of threads!

Hey! The season hasn't started, so we can't play any games right now!

This thread wasn't even started by a Marshall fan!

Also, it's Cato! Kato was the Green Hornet's sidekick!

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Kato, Kateaux, Cato, Cateaux, whatever.
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