Here's a look at the MAC football programs ranked by winning percentage from 1998-2013. I chose '98 as a starting point because that is the oldest date that all 12 full time conference members were together in the MAC. Coincidentally its also the beginning of the BCS era. The rankings are based on 120 FBS teams with Penn State being ranked #120 due to their vacated wins.

Which team or teams do you see breaking their historical pattern the most this year and which teams are you most confident in being consistently better than their average going forward?

#30 (.608) Northern Illinois
#31 (.607) Toledo
#49 (.541) Bowling Green

#67 (.485) Miami
#71 (.482) Ohio
#74 (.471) Western Michigan
#79 (.459) Central Michigan
#85 (.429) Ball State

#103 (.370) Akron
#109 (.351) Kent State
#116 (.264) Buffalo
#118 (.247) Eastern Michigan


if you want to compare that to more recent trends, here's the rankings for the previous 5 seasons (out of 124 teams)-

#9 (.768) Northern Illinois
#30 (.642) Ohio
#38 (.603) Toledo

#69t (.500) Ball State
#69t (.500) Bowling Green
#73 (.492) Central Michigan
#75 (.484) Kent State

#95 (.377) Western Michigan
#100 (.361) Buffalo
#110 (.306) Miami
#119 (.200) Eastern Michigan
#122 (.183) Akron
#124 (.083) UMass

Holy smokes that's close between NIU and Toledo over the past 12 years. Very surprised ball state and BG are .500 over 5 years. I guess they both has rough seasons about 5 years ago, I can't recall what years offhand they really struggled.

I think Akron will have good upward movement as long as they keep their coach.

I also think Buffalo will have upward movement as long as they keep their AD.

(07-23-2014 01:27 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  Here's a look at the MAC football programs ranked by winning percentage from 1998-2013. I chose '98 as a starting point because that is the oldest date that all 12 full time conference members were together in the MAC. Coincidentally its also the beginning of the BCS era. The rankings are based on 120 FBS teams with Penn State being ranked #120 due to their vacated wins.

Which team or teams do you see breaking their historical pattern the most this year and which teams are you most confident in being consistently better than their average going forward?

#30 (.608) Northern Illinois
#31 (.607) Toledo
#49 (.541) Bowling Green

#67 (.485) Miami
#71 (.482) Ohio
#74 (.471) Western Michigan
#79 (.459) Central Michigan
#85 (.429) Ball State

#103 (.370) Akron
#109 (.351) Kent State
#116 (.264) Buffalo
#118 (.247) Eastern Michigan


if you want to compare that to more recent trends, here's the rankings for the previous 5 seasons (out of 124 teams)-

#9 (.768) Northern Illinois
#30 (.642) Ohio
#38 (.603) Toledo

#69t (.500) Ball State
#69t (.500) Bowling Green
#73 (.492) Central Michigan
#75 (.484) Kent State

#95 (.377) Western Michigan
#100 (.361) Buffalo
#110 (.306) Miami
#119 (.200) Eastern Michigan
#122 (.183) Akron
#124 (.083) UMass

Since 1998 the Ohio schools are paired together with their natural rival. I am surprised it is so evident on that stat. Miami as low as they have been still seem to me to have the most potential for a breakout the next 5 - 10 years.. They have been so bad by Miami standards it seems as if it was planned. Miami has a great reputation in Chicago market.

Here's one more cut, this is winning percentage ranking for the program's entire history, out of 115 teams-

#21 (.608) Miami
#23 (.600) Central Michigan
#31 (.587) Bowling Green

#53 (.550) Western Michigan
#54 (.549) Toledo
#59 (.534) Northern Illinois
#64 (.527) Ball State

#80 (.498) Ohio
#87 (.490) Akron
#102 (.445) Eastern Michigan
#112 (.394) Kent State
#115 (.358) Buffalo

The top 1/3 of the MAC is really, really, successful. It shows why its important for programs like Miami and CMU to return to former glory.

The bottom 1/3 of the MAC have lost more games than they've won. The biggest change in perception of the conference will come when these teams become strong.

Former MAC members-
#56 (.541) Central Florida
#94 (.478) Marshall
#103 (.439) Temple

Added bonus, bottom 5 P5 teams-
#98 (.457) Iowa State
#101 (.446) Kansas State
#105 (.434) Northwestern
#109 (.420) Indiana
#110 (.409) Wake Forrest

Does CMU get to count their powerful DII days in there?

I didn't realize CMU was that high. I know they've had some good teams but didn't know how they did farther back, and they must have done well to stay close to Miami in win percentage. In recent history (20 years or so) I suppose Toledo would be the best (at least in the MAC, no sense penalizing them if they play tough OOC teams) and more recently, NIU.

(07-26-2014 10:03 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  Does CMU get to count their powerful DII days in there?

You guys cannot get cmu off your mind! how many threads on your board are dedicated to cmu?

(07-27-2014 04:06 PM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 10:03 PM)Liam9903 Wrote:  Does CMU get to count their powerful DII days in there?

You guys cannot get cmu off your mind! how many threads on your board are dedicated to cmu?

Just pointing out that CMU was in a football division with Mt. Union and Slippery Rock when they were building up that powerful winning pct.

Does that winning % only count for years at the D1 FBS level or all levels?

(07-29-2014 04:02 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Does that winning % only count for years at the D1 FBS level or all levels?

looks like its all games from what I can tell.

I apologize for posting a Kit kat-ish post, saw this graphic tweeted out and thought it had some interesting data points on it. if other schools are tracking numbers like web traffic it would be interesting to see as I'm guessing there are several school with positive trends.

(07-31-2014 02:49 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  I apologize for posting a Kit kat-ish post, saw this graphic tweeted out and thought it had some interesting data points on it. if other schools are tracking numbers like web traffic it would be interesting to see as I'm guessing there are several school with positive trends.

Why would it show 6 year growth and then only show 5 years on it.

And how do you have 100% 6 year growth in national tv games if you had 13 last year. Does that mean 6 years ago you had 6.5 games on national tv?

Sorry, but as a data person, this is a terrible chart.

How do they define "national TV games"? And why would that be something to brag about when any progress in that area comes through the conference or through your OOC opponent's conference? It's not much of an achievement.

Also, "web traffic" could mean anything. Is it the number of hits on the official OU athletics website? If so, is it total hits or unique visitors?