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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 07:20 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: So, the reasons listed for going to OM over Memphis would be:
1. SEC is a top tier conference
2. TV exposure
3. Featured player for OM
The AAC with Memphis, UConn, SMU, Cincy, and the potential of programs like Tulsa, Temple, and Houston is going to be a deeper and better league over the next few seasons than the SEC.
Memphis is on national TV more than Ole Miss.
I guess I can see where he might be the man in Oxford, but there's not guarantees that Shaq and/ or Nichols will still be around by the time Skal gets to campus. You'd think 4 and 5 star players would want to play on a team with other highly rated guys and not whatever ex-cons and scraps from the Jackson, MS Dandy Dozen that AK gets.
Money skews all rational thinking here
But the points are valid
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-27-2014 08:55 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: (07-24-2014 10:05 AM)Stammers Wrote: (07-24-2014 09:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote: ...and Skal would be a one in a million get for OM.
Yes, it would defy logic...further blowing holes in your reasons for him wanting to go there. It would be foolish.
You act like Saluki was saying that he was going to Ole Miss. Someone asked for reasons why he might consider the Black Bears, and yes, there are a few. It is a long shot, but stranger things have happened.
If a kid can play, the NBA will find him, it doesn't matter if they have to go to Oxford, Lexington, Memphis, Chapel Hill, or Greece.
You both act like there are valid reasons for him to go there. The correct response is that Memphis is a slam dunk choice; not to refute the poster who you know...actually said that Memphis IS the right choice.
One of the reasons he gave to support Ole Piss, is that they have a couple of decent, low ceiling bigs; which is a great argument against Ole Piss; accompanied by the usual "not Memphis good" nonsense, slam at our fans.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 07:20 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: So, the reasons listed for going to OM over Memphis would be:
1. SEC is a top tier conference
2. TV exposure
3. Featured player for OM
The AAC with Memphis, UConn, SMU, Cincy, and the potential of programs like Tulsa, Temple, and Houston is going to be a deeper and better league over the next few seasons than the SEC.
Memphis is on national TV more than Ole Miss.
I guess I can see where he might be the man in Oxford, but there's not guarantees that Shaq and/ or Nichols will still be around by the time Skal gets to campus. You'd think 4 and 5 star players would want to play on a team with other highly rated guys and not whatever ex-cons and scraps from the Jackson, MS Dandy Dozen that AK gets.
Here is the complete list of reasons for Ole Piss...
1. Guardian gets paid
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 08:38 AM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 07:20 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: So, the reasons listed for going to OM over Memphis would be:
1. SEC is a top tier conference
2. TV exposure
3. Featured player for OM
The AAC with Memphis, UConn, SMU, Cincy, and the potential of programs like Tulsa, Temple, and Houston is going to be a deeper and better league over the next few seasons than the SEC.
Memphis is on national TV more than Ole Miss.
I guess I can see where he might be the man in Oxford, but there's not guarantees that Shaq and/ or Nichols will still be around by the time Skal gets to campus. You'd think 4 and 5 star players would want to play on a team with other highly rated guys and not whatever ex-cons and scraps from the Jackson, MS Dandy Dozen that AK gets.
Here is the complete list of reasons for Ole Piss...
1. Guardian gets paid
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
JM today ... "If Ole Miss indeed hires his guardian, Gerald Hamilton, as an assistant coach, Labissiere will attend Ole Miss. That’s the way it goes. If not, I think he stays in Memphis."
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 12:19 PM)80sTiger Wrote: JM today ... "If Ole Miss indeed hires his guardian, Gerald Hamilton, as an assistant coach, Labissiere will attend Ole Miss. That’s the way it goes. If not, I think he stays in Memphis."
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I agree with that statement. What other conceivable reason would OM have to hire an unqualified asst other than to get a player? So the issue isn't whether OM could or should hire Hamilton who has no basketball related skills, it's just that if they do it's because Hamilton has guaranteed that Skal will come with him. Without that ability (Hamilton bringing Skal) there is no reason to hire Hamilton.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
Well we're at least past calling out JM based on this being completely arbitrary trolling.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 01:39 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
This is Ole Miss though. Same school that hired Kennedy. If Skal is willing they are going to be as well. They are investing millions to try to get basketball relevant. I would bet the farm they would do it.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 01:55 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:39 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
This is Ole Miss though. Same school that hired Kennedy. If Skal is willing they are going to be as well. They are investing millions to try to get basketball relevant. I would bet the farm they would do it.
Hamilton will be let go the minute Skal goes pro
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 02:03 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:55 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:39 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
This is Ole Miss though. Same school that hired Kennedy. If Skal is willing they are going to be as well. They are investing millions to try to get basketball relevant. I would bet the farm they would do it.
Hamilton will be let go the minute Skal goes pro
My opinion of how the whole Lawson thing went down is well documented. This is 1,000 times worse. It's disgusting, and no I wouldn't be in favour of it if Memphis was doing it.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 02:12 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 02:03 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:55 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:39 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
This is Ole Miss though. Same school that hired Kennedy. If Skal is willing they are going to be as well. They are investing millions to try to get basketball relevant. I would bet the farm they would do it.
Hamilton will be let go the minute Skal goes pro
My opinion of how the whole Lawson thing went down is well documented. This is 1,000 times worse. It's disgusting, and no I wouldn't be in favour of it if Memphis was doing it.
Lawson actually has a basketball background. I would be appauled if Pastner hired Hamilton
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
Either way, a pretty good Memphis team in 2 years is going to walk into Ole Miss's new arena and mop the floor with them to open the building whether Skal is a Tiger, Rebel, Tar Heel or UK Wildcaaaayyyut.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 01:55 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:39 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
This is Ole Miss though. Same school that hired Kennedy. If Skal is willing they are going to be as well. They are investing millions to try to get basketball relevant. I would bet the farm they would do it.
Same school that hired Kennedy?
What does that mean?
You mean the same school that hired a guy (from Mississippi) who was an all-conference player under Gene Bartow and coached under Murraw Bartow AND Bob Huggins?
Yeah, what an awful decision.
smh
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 03:18 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Either way, a pretty good Memphis team in 2 years is going to walk into Ole Miss's new arena and mop the floor with them to open the building whether Skal is a Tiger, Rebel, Tar Heel or UK Wildcaaaayyyut.
The new arena won't open until the 16-17 season, so Skal won't be there regardless.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 03:24 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:55 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:39 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
This is Ole Miss though. Same school that hired Kennedy. If Skal is willing they are going to be as well. They are investing millions to try to get basketball relevant. I would bet the farm they would do it.
Same school that hired Kennedy?
What does that mean?
You mean the same school that hired a guy (from Mississippi) who was an all-conference player under Gene Bartow and coached under Murraw Bartow AND Bob Huggins?
Yeah, what an awful decision.
smh
Never referred to anything about his coaching or playing days.
SMH
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 01:55 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote: (07-28-2014 01:39 PM)Stammers Wrote: (07-28-2014 12:46 PM)Ramen_Tiger Wrote: I just don't think Ole Miss will do that. That is just bad in so many ways and sends a bad message to other potential assistants with basketball qualifications.
The worst thing about it, is that you would think that the president/dean would have to sign off on it. It's one thing for the AD to sign off on it; but another issue entirely if the academic head is agreeing to it.
This is Ole Miss though. Same school that hired Kennedy. If Skal is willing they are going to be as well. They are investing millions to try to get basketball relevant. I would bet the farm they would do it.
Bet they would also --- but I have to wonder and as I've posted before, aren't there some minimum qualifications that have to be met to be considered for public positions. For example, Lawson played Division 1 basketball and he was a successful head coach. From what I've heard, this guy might have never touched a basketball.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 03:26 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (07-28-2014 03:18 PM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote: Either way, a pretty good Memphis team in 2 years is going to walk into Ole Miss's new arena and mop the floor with them to open the building whether Skal is a Tiger, Rebel, Tar Heel or UK Wildcaaaayyyut.
The new arena won't open until the 16-17 season, so Skal won't be there regardless.
OK, someone doesn't have their facts straight.
According to Parrish in his column that can be found at http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...ing-battle :
Beyond that, Ole Miss will replace Tad Smith Coliseum with a brand new on-campus arena in the 2015-16 season -- all of which means Labissiere could enroll in Oxford, be the focal point from the start, play in the nation's premier athletic conference, in a brand new arena, and he can do all this only 55 minutes from his home in Olive Branch.
So, is the new MaxiPad gonna open during the 2015-16 or 2016-17 season???? Who to believe??? Inquiring minds wanna know.
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RE: Martin - Could Ole Miss offer Hamilton/Skal package deal?
(07-28-2014 09:17 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote: ...play in the nation's premier athletic conference...
This isn't SEC football we're talking about - it's basketball and it's Black Bear basketball.
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