Nuclear waste dump comes to mind.

Even with the decline of the city there has been zero talk of the Lions, Tigers, Pistons or Redwings relocating to another city. The population is there, just not in Detroit.

(07-21-2014 06:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:52 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The dictionary is your friend.

Please, you can't even get past the life part without water...never mind pursuing happiness.

Are they being denied the right to water? or just not the beneficiary of a free service at someone elses expense to provide it. You having a right for something is not the same as you having the right to compel others to give it to you.

This is a hard situation because all you're going to do is raise rates on the few who can barely pay to help those who can not, that is basically taxing them.

(07-21-2014 06:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:52 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The dictionary is your friend.

Please, you can't even get past the life part without water...never mind pursuing happiness.

UofM, they aren't being denied water. If they wanted to they could walk down to the Detroit River and fill up jugs for home use. What is being turned off is access to the water and sewer transport systems. And in reviewing some of the staggering overdue bills for private residents (4.5K and higher), the Water department waited as long as the could before deciding to take this particular action.

Now, Jennings is telling a complete lie by labeling a gov't utility as a white company, especially in Detriot. She does so because its a compelling narrative and obscures the facts. City residence across the nation have been delinquent in paying for the upkeep and maintenance of the city water systems. Mayors for the last 50 years have kept rates low because it was politically expedient. That can kicking is what has left Detroit Water and Sewer $5 billion dollars in the red.

All that said, the NAACP could pay some portion of it from their coffers if its that much of an issue. but that's probably not in the offing. I chuckled at getting the UN involved, considering that their ability to deliver water to drought stricken areas is laughable. Ultimately, what the residents really want is for someone else to pay for it.

(07-21-2014 10:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Drew, you really are clueless. It's sad that an otherwise intelligent young man has allowed his mind to be co-opted by opportunists who see you as nothing more than fodder to keep them in power through your collective vote. Marx, Lenin, etal are your heroes aren't they, admit it, you own a Che Guevera shirt - or maybe a handbag - don't you...

I'm not concerned what you think of me, if I were, I wouldn't go to baseball games with you...

What does concern me is Americans having access to food, water, and shelter.

I'm not sure why the liberals think they have any say on this thread. Detroit is a result of their philosophies.

(07-22-2014 12:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm not sure why the liberals think they have any say on this thread. Detroit is a result of their philosophies.

All Americans have a say in what happens in America...this is one nation...not a conservative/liberal America. (as you seem to view it)

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  All Americans have a say in what happens in America.

Not really. That's the sound byte, but it's not really true any more.

Most of what goes on is controlled by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats working within the various administrative agencies. And Americans have zero say in what they decide, and very little latitude to challenge it.

I would like to see one party--either party--come out strongly in favor of restoring power to the people's elected representatives in congress. But that would mean congress critters having to be accountable for their actions, and they certainly don't want that.

(07-22-2014 12:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  All Americans have a say in what happens in America.

Not really. That's the sound byte, but it's not really true any more.

Most of what goes on is controlled by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats working within the various administrative agencies. And Americans have zero say in what they decide, and very little latitude to challenge it.

I would like to see one party--either party--come out strongly in favor of restoring power to the people's elected representatives in congress. But that would mean congress critters having to be accountable for their actions, and they certainly don't want that.

Ah, the tin-foil theory...I don't subscribe to that one.

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm not sure why the liberals think they have any say on this thread. Detroit is a result of their philosophies.

All Americans have a say in what happens in America...this is one nation...not a conservative/liberal America. (as you seem to view it)

Typical response when you know it was your leaders that created the problem.

(07-22-2014 12:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  All Americans have a say in what happens in America.

Not really. That's the sound byte, but it's not really true any more.
Most of what goes on is controlled by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats working within the various administrative agencies. And Americans have zero say in what they decide, and very little latitude to challenge it.
I would like to see one party--either party--come out strongly in favor of restoring power to the people's elected representatives in congress. But that would mean congress critters having to be accountable for their actions, and they certainly don't want that.

Ah, the tin-foil theory...I don't subscribe to that one.

Nothing tin-foil about that at all.

You can't debate the point substantively, so you resort to name-calling.

(07-22-2014 12:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  All Americans have a say in what happens in America.

Not really. That's the sound byte, but it's not really true any more.

Most of what goes on is controlled by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats working within the various administrative agencies. And Americans have zero say in what they decide, and very little latitude to challenge it.

I would like to see one party--either party--come out strongly in favor of restoring power to the people's elected representatives in congress. But that would mean congress critters having to be accountable for their actions, and they certainly don't want that.

Ah, the tin-foil theory...I don't subscribe to that one.

You might want to re-read what he said.


Posted from the shallow recesses of my feeble mind.

(07-22-2014 12:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  All Americans have a say in what happens in America.

Not really. That's the sound byte, but it's not really true any more.
Most of what goes on is controlled by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats working within the various administrative agencies. And Americans have zero say in what they decide, and very little latitude to challenge it.
I would like to see one party--either party--come out strongly in favor of restoring power to the people's elected representatives in congress. But that would mean congress critters having to be accountable for their actions, and they certainly don't want that.

Ah, the tin-foil theory...I don't subscribe to that one.

Nothing tin-foil about that at all.

You can't debate the point substantively, so you resort to name-calling.

That's right "dumb***."

(07-22-2014 07:13 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  All Americans have a say in what happens in America.

Not really. That's the sound byte, but it's not really true any more.
Most of what goes on is controlled by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats working within the various administrative agencies. And Americans have zero say in what they decide, and very little latitude to challenge it.
I would like to see one party--either party--come out strongly in favor of restoring power to the people's elected representatives in congress. But that would mean congress critters having to be accountable for their actions, and they certainly don't want that.

Ah, the tin-foil theory...I don't subscribe to that one.

Nothing tin-foil about that at all.

You can't debate the point substantively, so you resort to name-calling.

That's right "dumb***."

Yes, because the person that was directed to was putting on the dumb act instead of engaging in reasonable discussion. And the comment was "quit playing dumb**" not "you're a dumb***." Meaning, quite obviously, you're better than that. Perhaps that person would care to engage more substantively regarding the longer post I added later.

Think we need to be able to vote on bills on the internet.
Wasn't available previously.

(07-22-2014 08:48 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 05:09 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  The only way Detroit has any chance at some kind of comeback is by reducing the crushing regulatory burden they have in place now (along with some tax reform I would assume, I'm not familiar with Michigan). Even if free market reforms are made at the federal level, the people in charge of Detroit for decades have destroyed themselves, they ultimately have to be the ones who adopt policies which will rebuild them.

Not really. Detroit is a lost cause. Every productive citizen has left the city for greener pastures. What's left are deadbeats, addicts, elderly, working poor and those who profit off of the previous groups. To save Detroit you would have relocate everyone into a smaller, more easily managed area of land. If you think you have race baiting going on now, try doing that and see what happens. Detroit needs some kind of Katrina event.

Agreed. Everyone worth a sh*t has left. The richer white folks have been moving out of the city proper for a long time. I know this is anecdotal but I know a bunch of black people that did well are moving back south. I have several relatives who've come back. We rent to a family that came back.

I feel really bad for them. Being poor in a big city has to be terrible.

(07-22-2014 07:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:46 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-22-2014 12:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  All Americans have a say in what happens in America.

Not really. That's the sound byte, but it's not really true any more.

Most of what goes on is controlled by nameless, faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats working within the various administrative agencies. And Americans have zero say in what they decide, and very little latitude to challenge it.

I would like to see one party--either party--come out strongly in favor of restoring power to the people's elected representatives in congress. But that would mean congress critters having to be accountable for their actions, and they certainly don't want that.

Ah, the tin-foil theory...I don't subscribe to that one.

You might want to re-read what he said.


Posted from the shallow recesses of my feeble mind.

Nah, I'm good...