Texas Gov. Rick Perry will immediately send up to 1,000 National Guard troops to help secure the southern border, where tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors from Central America have crossed into the United States this year in a surge that is deemed a humanitarian crisis.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/21/politics/p...rd-border/

To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

But it's not just children coming through.

(07-21-2014 02:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

But it's not just children coming through.

Certainly not but the timing would suggest that is his reasoning.

(07-21-2014 02:49 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

But it's not just children coming through.

Certainly not but the timing would suggest that is his reasoning.

It's also a deterrent. It has started to catch on down in Central America that there is heavy opposition and the amounts have dropped slightly. There are also adult illegals using children as decoys to help gain entry.

There are kids, teens and adults hoping trains up to the southern border in the thousands...every day.

For this reason CNN is in the dumps in the ratings. They're as bad or worst than some of the water carriers on this site.

But, I'm gonna be fair. She did ask a good question by asking what after we get those National Guardsmen on the border will happen. I see nothing different will happen. They will cross. They will volunteer being apprehended. And they will have to be taken care of. Nothing different at all. What she was doing really was trying to make Perry out to be a fool and obama a victim.

If obama was really trying to stem the flow he would come out on television and preferable Univision to tell the Central Americans that they will be sent back. He hasn't done anything close to that. He's hoping by putting his head in the sand that the problem will go away. Like everything he does, he'll read it in the papers.

(07-21-2014 02:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:49 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

But it's not just children coming through.

Certainly not but the timing would suggest that is his reasoning.

It's also a deterrent. It has started to catch on down in Central America that there is heavy opposition and the amounts have dropped slightly. There are also adult illegals using children as decoys to help gain entry.

There are kids, teens and adults hoping trains up to the southern border in the thousands...every day.

And gang bangers, drug dealers also.

He made the announcement, which he called Operation Strong Safety, on Monday in Austin.

Love the football reference.

This border situation has made me like Perry more.

I'm glad you like him okie, just don't move to texas, okay.

Oh, and don't consider that an insult, I'd say the same thing to those that are from california.

(07-21-2014 03:06 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I'm glad you like him okie, just don't move to texas, okay.

Oh, and don't consider that an insult, I'd say the same thing to those that are from california.

I live in Oklahoma big shooter. Texas is conservative lite compared to my state. Don't ever compare me to a Californian. I have no desire to move south of the river. But we suffer the same influx of illegal immigrants you do. They are all over our towns and cities. They are all over our state parks and gobbling assistance needed for actual citizens. I am for anyone who has the fortitude to do something about this.

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

So Obama can bend and ignore laws but Perry can't? Lefters hate it when conservatives do the same thing they do, and get away with it.

From Gary Johnson today:

Quote:I understand Gov. Perry's frustration with inaction on immigration reform at the federal level, but with roughly 5 border agents per mile of border already deployed -- and significantly more in some sectors, one has to ask: How many will be enough? How about a legal immigration system that works, rather than militarization and every-bigger fences?

I know that we're conservative lite. That's why I was telling you to stay there. You're the complete opposite of someone like Lazytom who is uber-liberal. We need people that can look at the big picture and not only their extreme thoughts or agendas.

Don't get me wrong now, I don't hate you in the least but your extreme views to me are no different than redwing tom, fitbutt or lazy tom.

(07-21-2014 03:13 PM)mlb Wrote:  From Gary Johnson today:

Quote:I understand Gov. Perry's frustration with inaction on immigration reform at the federal level, but with roughly 5 border agents per mile of border already deployed -- and significantly more in some sectors, one has to ask: How many will be enough? How about a legal immigration system that works, rather than militarization and every-bigger fences?

Gary Johnson doesn't have any idea what he is talking about. What a tool.

Seventy percent of the border patrol is tending to the detained children. Only 30% of our entire fleet is actually patrolling the border.

(07-21-2014 03:10 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

So Obama can bend and ignore laws but Perry can't? Lefters hate it when conservatives do the same thing they do, and get away with it.

Where did I say any of that? I simply said troops aren't the best solution for dealing with the unaccompanied minor issue. It is a big problem and we need Congress to help.

(07-21-2014 03:16 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:10 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

So Obama can bend and ignore laws but Perry can't? Lefters hate it when conservatives do the same thing they do, and get away with it.

Where did I say any of that? I simply said troops aren't the best solution for dealing with the unaccompanied minor issue. It is a big problem and we need Congress to help.

We all know how reliable and effective Congress has been on the issue. Obama and half of Congress are to blame for this problem.

(07-21-2014 03:16 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:10 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 02:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  To detain more children? No matter how many troops are there, the current law says we have to accept unaccompanied minors who surrender. The law needs to be changed by Congress.

So Obama can bend and ignore laws but Perry can't? Lefters hate it when conservatives do the same thing they do, and get away with it.

Where did I say any of that? I simply said troops aren't the best solution for dealing with the unaccompanied minor issue. It is a big problem and we need Congress to help.

What good is congress if Obama gets to pick and choose what he enforces and what he turds on. There are laws to secure the border and it does not include encouraging human trafficking. Zero is encouraging an invasion and playing golf while he tries to blame the GOP for a problem he created.

(07-21-2014 02:42 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Texas Gov. Rick Perry will immediately send up to 1,000 National Guard troops to help secure the southern border, where tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors from Central America have crossed into the United States this year in a surge that is deemed a humanitarian crisis.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/21/politics/p...rd-border/

What took him so long?

(07-21-2014 03:13 PM)mlb Wrote:  From Gary Johnson today:

Quote:I understand Gov. Perry's frustration with inaction on immigration reform at the federal level, but with roughly 5 border agents per mile of border already deployed -- and significantly more in some sectors, one has to ask: How many will be enough? How about a legal immigration system that works, rather than militarization and every-bigger fences?

And this is why Gary Johnson will get 3% of the vote next time he runs for Pres.
This is simpleton politicking stuff. I'd love to see how he came about his 5 per mile already deployed. You telling me he's driven that border and there are, currently and at all times, 24/7, around the clock, 5 border agents per mile of border? Actively engaged or pursuing the illegal invaders?

Bullschit. Intellectual laziness, I'll guarantee. My guess is he counted up (or more likely one of his staff did) the number of "active duty" BPA's, (those running around warming baby bottles and handing out lollipops to someone else's kids) and divided that itno the number of miles along the border.-

Ta-Daaaa!!! Five per mile!!!!

Uhhhhhh, no. There are stretches 10's of miles, if not hundreds of miles, along that border that are as open as a Radford Sorority house on a Saturday night.

Good for Perry. This admin has been caught bald-face lying yet again. They knew this was going to happen, months if not years in advance, they encouraged it to happen, damn near cheerleading along the way, and then when it happens it's all "Gaaahleee, Andy, wherein all's these chillins come from"?

We'll see once and for all if this is truly a "local" issue. my guess is the contemptible holder and his disgracefully corrupt DOinJ will have the lawsuit filed post haste.

Then who will SoSueMe and his brain Valerie blame? Guess they'll find out in the Friday Times who Perry is...

(07-21-2014 03:31 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:13 PM)mlb Wrote:  From Gary Johnson today:

Quote:I understand Gov. Perry's frustration with inaction on immigration reform at the federal level, but with roughly 5 border agents per mile of border already deployed -- and significantly more in some sectors, one has to ask: How many will be enough? How about a legal immigration system that works, rather than militarization and every-bigger fences?

And this is why Gary Johnson will get 3% of the vote next time he runs for Pres.
This is simpleton politicking stuff. I'd love to see how he came about his 5 per mile already deployed. You telling me he's driven that border and there are, currently and at all times, 24/7, around the clock, 5 border agents per mile of border? Actively engaged or pursuing the illegal invaders?

Bullschit. Intellectual laziness, I'll guarantee. My guess is he counted up (or more likely one of his staff did) the number of "active duty" BPA's, (those running around warming baby bottles and handing out lollipops to someone else's kids) and divided that itno the number of miles along the border.-

Ta-Daaaa!!! Five per mile!!!!

Uhhhhhh, no. There are stretches 10's of miles, if not hundreds of miles, along that border that are as open as a Radford Sorority house on a Saturday night.

Good for Perry. This admin has been caught bald-face lying yet again. They knew this was going to happen, months if not years in advance, they encouraged it to happen, damn near cheerleading along the way, and then when it happens it's all "Gaaahleee, Andy, wherein all's these chillins come from"?

We'll see once and for all if this is truly a "local" issue. my guess is the contemptible holder and his disgracefully corrupt DOinJ will have the lawsuit filed post haste.

Then who will SoSueMe and his brain Valerie blame? Guess they'll find out in the Friday Times who Perry is...

The sad part is that all his little followers will believe that nonsense and repeat it. This is how the left keeps the border open. Disinformation campaigns are one of their strongest weapons.

Next up...tie it all to the "drug war."