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ACC: maybe more than 2 divisions someday?
Q. Commissioner, as far as a conference championship is concerned, what kind of support is there within the Big 12 about possibly deregulating it, having it maybe on a semiannual basis or something that's not every single year? Is there any kind of support or possibilities as far as that is concerned?

COMMISSIONER BOWLSBY: Well, we have advocated for those regulations to be deregulated. The rule as it stands now says you have to have two divisions. They have to be at least six teams. You have to play a full round robin in your division in order to put forth a team.

Ourselves and the ACC have advocated for that rule to be deregulated, just so that we could have some prerogatives. I think in their case they might like to have more than two divisions and have fewer teams in each division.
In our case, we would like the prerogative to, at some point in time, have that discussion and make a decision as to whether or not we might want to take our two highest ranked schools in the poll and have them play each other at the end of the year.

Now, you always run the risk of maybe having to have a rematch that just got played a couple weeks earlier. You may recall that Stanford and UCLA had that situation a couple of years ago. It was after I left Stanford, but I believe they played the last game of the season and then they played the next week.

So it's an imperfect process, if you don't play the divisions. And I don't know that we would do it. But we think it would not be a bad idea to have the prerogative.

And so we're kind of existing in an environment where deregulation has some traction. And so we've advocated for that rule to be deregulated, but we've done so without any particular agenda.
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RE: ACC: maybe more than 2 divisions someday?
If you can have a 2 semi-final league football championship games, that's the ideal.

Three divisions, three division winners and one at large. The two best division winners play at home. As far as basketball, winning a division just seeds you 1-3 in the ACC tournament. The next best league records gets the 4th seed.
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I would SO NOT be in favor of that!

IMO we don't need MO divisions, we need NO divisions!
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Re: RE: ACC: maybe more than 2 divisions someday?
(07-21-2014 11:49 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I would SO NOT be in favor of that!

IMO we don't need MO divisions, we need NO divisions!
Do you think round robin scheduling would work better with the number of members we have? I've only ever seen it done in smaller conferences.
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(07-21-2014 10:52 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I think in their case they might like to have more than two divisions and have fewer teams in each division.

Maybe that is a hint at rotating pods? The weaker teams get the "benefit" of divisional play and everyone gets to cycle ACC opponents faster.
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(07-21-2014 04:39 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 10:52 AM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote:  I think in their case they might like to have more than two divisions and have fewer teams in each division.

Maybe that is a hint at rotating pods? The weaker teams get the "benefit" of divisional play and everyone gets to cycle ACC opponents faster.

That would be more ideal...the thought of Semi Finals in Conference play is a terrible idea...if a ACC Team makes it to the Title Game that is a 16 Game Season.
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Conference semifinal games? LMFAO. GTFO.
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It's done in conference play for every other sport, why not football? I could see a four team ACC tournament with say FSU, Clemson, VT and Miami being extremely popular.
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(07-22-2014 04:23 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  It's done in conference play for every other sport, why not football? I could see a four team ACC tournament with say FSU, Clemson, VT and Miami being extremely popular.
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Because it saddles 3 of those teams with an extra loss.

Because it risks injury to your best team before it even reaches the playoffs

Because you'd have to try and sell tickets to games played between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Take your pick, or choose "D. All of the above".
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I say no divisions or pods. Play 8 games with 3 set games every year, this way you play everyone every other year. Top 2 make the CCG. You can tweak it with expansion by adjusting the number of set games or going to 9 games. Helps keep schedules balanced as well.

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(07-22-2014 04:39 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(07-22-2014 04:23 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  It's done in conference play for every other sport, why not football? I could see a four team ACC tournament with say FSU, Clemson, VT and Miami being extremely popular.
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Because it saddles 3 of those teams with an extra loss.

Because it risks injury to your best team before it even reaches the playoffs

Because you'd have to try and sell tickets to games played between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Take your pick, or choose "D. All of the above".

This...Football is unlike any other sport...do you really want to risk Jameis Winston like player to an "extra" game...12 Game Regular season...2 In Conference Playoff Game...4 School CFP...you do that you better start paying the players....that is a Professional Schedule...05-nono
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RE: ACC: maybe more than 2 divisions someday?
(07-22-2014 09:19 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(07-22-2014 04:39 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(07-22-2014 04:23 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  It's done in conference play for every other sport, why not football? I could see a four team ACC tournament with say FSU, Clemson, VT and Miami being extremely popular.
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Because it saddles 3 of those teams with an extra loss.

Because it risks injury to your best team before it even reaches the playoffs

Because you'd have to try and sell tickets to games played between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Take your pick, or choose "D. All of the above".

This...Football is unlike any other sport...do you really want to risk Jameis Winston like player to an "extra" game...12 Game Regular season...2 In Conference Playoff Game...4 School CFP...you do that you better start paying the players....that is a Professional Schedule...05-nono

But there are idiots on here that keep saying the regular season will expand to 13 games, that conferences will have semifinal games, and that all of that will occur while the playoffs are likely to expand beyond 4 in the coming years.

Some people just dumb.
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Re: RE: ACC: maybe more than 2 divisions someday?
(07-22-2014 12:54 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(07-22-2014 09:19 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(07-22-2014 04:39 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(07-22-2014 04:23 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  It's done in conference play for every other sport, why not football? I could see a four team ACC tournament with say FSU, Clemson, VT and Miami being extremely popular.
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Because it saddles 3 of those teams with an extra loss.

Because it risks injury to your best team before it even reaches the playoffs

Because you'd have to try and sell tickets to games played between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Take your pick, or choose "D. All of the above".

This...Football is unlike any other sport...do you really want to risk Jameis Winston like player to an "extra" game...12 Game Regular season...2 In Conference Playoff Game...4 School CFP...you do that you better start paying the players....that is a Professional Schedule...05-nono

But there are idiots on here that keep saying the regular season will expand to 13 games, that conferences will have semifinal games, and that all of that will occur while the playoffs are likely to expand beyond 4 in the coming years.

Some people just dumb.
I'd really like to keep the regular seasons the same and go to a six or eight team playoff. I think that'd be the limit, though.
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My ideal college football season would be:
12 games with a rule that every team MUST play 6 home, 6 away.
No FCS in the regular season, but allow all P5 teams to play an FCS opponent instead of the Spring Game
8 teams in the playoffs, with all P5 champs guaranteed a spot (thus effectively making it a 12-team playoff: 8 teams + the 4 conference championship games)
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(07-22-2014 01:22 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  My ideal college football season would be:
12 games with a rule that every team MUST play 6 home, 6 away.
No FCS in the regular season, but allow all P5 teams to play an FCS opponent instead of the Spring Game
8 teams in the playoffs, with all P5 champs guaranteed a spot (thus effectively making it a 12-team playoff: 8 teams + the 4 conference championship games)
I like the way you view the 8 team playoff as a sort of 12 team playoff if you include the conference championships as quasi playoff games (though the loser could still advance to an at large slot).

8 teams: 5 power conference champs, 2 at large, and 1 G5 slot.

Match up the 4 highest ranked teams up against the 4 lowest ranked teams for the first round.
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(07-22-2014 01:45 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  
(07-22-2014 01:22 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  My ideal college football season would be:
12 games with a rule that every team MUST play 6 home, 6 away.
No FCS in the regular season, but allow all P5 teams to play an FCS opponent instead of the Spring Game
8 teams in the playoffs, with all P5 champs guaranteed a spot (thus effectively making it a 12-team playoff: 8 teams + the 4 conference championship games)
I like the way you view the 8 team playoff as a sort of 12 team playoff if you include the conference championships as quasi playoff games (though the loser could still advance to an at large slot).

8 teams: 5 power conference champs, 2 at large, and 1 G5 slot.

Match up the 4 highest ranked teams up against the 4 lowest ranked teams for the first round.

+1. NOW we are talking!
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