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RE: Will freshman Chance Stewart surpass the incumbents at quarterback?
Manzel was a 4 star QB playing for a top 20 program in the SEC. He redshirted 1 year and the next year beat the #1 team in America and won the Heismen. I'm just wondering if our 4 star QB could compete as a true freshmen in one of the worst conferences in America. He doesn't have win to the Heismen or beat the number one team in America. I'm just hoping he might be better than the 2 guys ahead of him on our 1-11 team, and perhaps make the MAC all freshmen team. So ya see, he doesn't have to be Johnny Manzel..........maybe just 10% of Manzel. Not exactly lofty goals in my opinion.
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Of course we all hope he can compete as a true freshman. It is very rare for a true freshman QB to grab the starting job. If he is not ready, it would be stupid to play him. Especially if we are 2-6. The whole team is young, I am pretty sure nobody expects us to set the world on fire anytime soon. We don't even know if our coach CAN win.

The SEC is > the MAC, but the MAC is so much better than Sturgis High School. The talent level as a QB trying to adjust to the speed of VT vs the speed of Coloma is massive.
07-23-2014 01:25 PM
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(07-23-2014 01:25 PM)ITalian83i Wrote:  Manzel was a 4 star QB playing for a top 20 program in the SEC. He redshirted 1 year and the next year beat the #1 team in America and won the Heismen. I'm just wondering if our 4 star QB could compete as a true freshmen in one of the worst conferences in America. He doesn't have win to the Heismen or beat the number one team in America. I'm just hoping he might be better than the 2 guys ahead of him on our 1-11 team, and perhaps make the MAC all freshmen team. So ya see, he doesn't have to be Johnny Manzel..........maybe just 10% of Manzel. Not exactly lofty goals in my opinion.

Of course we all hope he can compete as a true freshman. It is very rare for a true freshman QB to grab the starting job. If he is not ready, it would be stupid to play him. Especially if we are 2-6. The whole team is young, I am pretty sure nobody expects us to set the world on fire anytime soon. We don't even know if our coach CAN win.

The SEC is > the MAC, but the MAC is so much better than Sturgis High School. The talent level as a QB trying to adjust to the speed of VT vs the speed of Coloma is massive.
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I suspect Texas AM and the SEC was a big adjustment from Tivy HS in Kerrville, TX. Probably a whole lot bigger than trying to beat last years 3rd string QB from a 1-11 team in the Mid American Conference.

It's all relative.
07-23-2014 01:32 PM
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RE: Will freshman Chance Stewart surpass the incumbents at quarterback?
(07-23-2014 12:52 PM)7 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 12:42 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 12:18 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU's back to back championship senior classes were ranked the 12th and 7th classes in the MAC when they signed. Lynch and Harnish had exactly 1 FBS scholarship offer each.

Recruiting matters, but it's less about how it's ranked and more about finding guys who fit and develop in your system.

Don't get me wrong, it's great for WMU to pull in as much talent as they did, I'm just saying it's not a for sure thing you're going to roll the ball out there and these guys develop to their potential. Somebody has to teach them.

I'm sorry, but I get so sick of hearing this from NIU fans these days. The program wasn't built on coaching alone. Yes, coaching was a big part of it, but that was just one part of a bigger equation. Joe Novak started building the foundation in the late 1990's and early 2000's, Jerry Kill and Dave Doeren sustained it by pulling in some very good recruiting classes between 2009-2012, and then Rod Carey inherited all of it. It will be interesting to see if the program begins to fall off now that some of that momentum has been lost with all of the recent coaching changes.
It's college sports, all programs are built on coaching alone. Who recruits the players? The coaches. Recruit the players that fit your system, coach them up. Do you think Jordan Lynch would have been succesful playing in a pro style offense? Yeah...no.

Who recruited Lynch? Isn't that Flecks claim to fame.
07-24-2014 08:07 AM
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RE: Will freshman Chance Stewart surpass the incumbents at quarterback?
(07-23-2014 01:25 PM)ITalian83i Wrote:  Manzel was a 4 star QB playing for a top 20 program in the SEC. He redshirted 1 year and the next year beat the #1 team in America and won the Heismen. I'm just wondering if our 4 star QB could compete as a true freshmen in one of the worst conferences in America. He doesn't have win to the Heismen or beat the number one team in America. I'm just hoping he might be better than the 2 guys ahead of him on our 1-11 team, and perhaps make the MAC all freshmen team. So ya see, he doesn't have to be Johnny Manzel..........maybe just 10% of Manzel. Not exactly lofty goals in my opinion.

Of course we all hope he can compete as a true freshman. It is very rare for a true freshman QB to grab the starting job. If he is not ready, it would be stupid to play him. Especially if we are 2-6. The whole team is young, I am pretty sure nobody expects us to set the world on fire anytime soon. We don't even know if our coach CAN win.

The SEC is > the MAC, but the MAC is so much better than Sturgis High School. The talent level as a QB trying to adjust to the speed of VT vs the speed of Coloma is massive.
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I know Stewart has been on campus "learning" the offense this summer. BUT there is no way that he starts right away...NO WAY
If he would have enrolled early and went through spring ball might be a different story. Then it would be more interesting this fall.
07-24-2014 08:11 AM
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RE: Will freshman Chance Stewart surpass the incumbents at quarterback?
If he's anywhere close at all in any way to Terrell PJ will start him.
07-24-2014 08:15 AM
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(07-24-2014 08:07 AM)Cant make this sh t up Wrote:  Who recruited Lynch? Isn't that Flecks claim to fame.

Actually, I think someone else on the staff discovered him originally, and Fleck had a part in recruiting him. He mentioned the name at the NIU post-game press conference last year but the name is escaping me at the moment.
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RE: Will freshman Chance Stewart surpass the incumbents at quarterback?
Who recruited Harnish? That's more impressive if you ask me.
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RE: Will freshman Chance Stewart surpass the incumbents at quarterback?
Novak recruited Harnish, Kill recruited Lynch.

I believe Fleck was on both of those staffs though, might have been the recruiting coordinator when Lynch was recruited.
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