I think this woman might be the stupidest US Senator in history.

Quote:U.S. Sen. Kay Hagan held a news conference Friday in Raleigh with Planned Parenthood officials and supporters, officially to rally support for a bill meant to bypass the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby ruling.

But it was also an appearance during campaign season in which she underlined her stance on women’s access to no-cost contraceptive coverage from their employers.

So Hamas is firing rockets into Israel, Russian back rebels bring down a civilian jetliner, thousands of ILLEGALS crossing the US border everyday and this is Hagan's top priority?

Senator Hagan a few IQ points away from being mentally challenged

Are you familiar with her opposition?

And her competition is focusing his efforts right now on getting pro-life license plates legal in NC. Wasting tax payer dollars on something that has already been shot down twice.

It doesn't matter if we elect Hagan or Tillis. Either way a complete moron will be representing NC in the Senate.

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

Hagan is doing what any politician does when they are nearing the election - stay in the media spotlight and rally their causes and supporters. Not defending her but as a female she is going to milk the hobby lobby ruling that impacts use of contraceptives:

Quote: “Let me be very clear: What kind of birth control a female employee uses is not her boss’s business,” Hagan said. “… I know that women in North Carolina are not going to stand for it and I’m not going to, either.”

This week a bill sponsored by 37 Democratic senators to preserve that coverage under the federal health-care law was blocked by Republicans. The bill could be brought up again, but Democrats are a few votes short of the 60 they need to force a final vote.

Hagan said she hoped public pressure might change a few votes, and said she would continue to push for the coverage.

I have never been impressed with Hagan and she will not get my vote. I'll vote for the "bumbling FOOL" over her any day of the week. Agree that Hagan will likely win but Senator Burr remains in office and that is a plus IMO.

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

Given Obama's Leadership Implosion and the growing unpopularity of Democrats its a good chance Topo Gigio could beat Hagan in November.

The race is really a toss up. Hagan has good constituent services and hasn't shown signs of foot in mouth disease as Ellmers, Fox, Tillis, McCrory, and some of our other elected officials have been prone to do. As is the case in most races, it is all about turnout. Midterm favors the GOP but voter repression efforts and the actions of the GOP General Assembly might result in higher than normal DEM turnout. It should be interesting with all the out of state $$$$$ that is flowing into NC.


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(07-19-2014 09:21 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  The race is really a toss up. Hagan has good constituent services and hasn't shown signs of foot in mouth disease as Ellmers, Fox, Tillis, McCrory, and some of our other elected officials have been prone to do. As is the case in most races, it is all about turnout. Midterm favors the GOP but voter repression efforts and the actions of the GOP General Assembly might result in higher than normal DEM turnout. It should be interesting with all the out of state $$$$$ that is flowing into NC.


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The bolded is nothing more than a DNC talking point. It's so sad that you can't think for yourself, and you need the fine folks at the DNC to do it for you.

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

are the people of NC dumb enough to vote Democrat in the Senate election?

(07-19-2014 10:23 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 09:21 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  The race is really a toss up. Hagan has good constituent services and hasn't shown signs of foot in mouth disease as Ellmers, Fox, Tillis, McCrory, and some of our other elected officials have been prone to do. As is the case in most races, it is all about turnout. Midterm favors the GOP but voter repression efforts and the actions of the GOP General Assembly might result in higher than normal DEM turnout. It should be interesting with all the out of state $$$$$ that is flowing into NC.


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The bolded is nothing more than a DNC talking point. It's so sad that you can't think for yourself, and you need the fine folks at the DNC to do it for you.

Reducing early voting days, ending early registration for high school students, ending Sunday early voting, allowing out of precinct observers at polling place, strategically moving polling places, overloading Democratic leaning polling places, challenging college students right to vote and run for office. These are a few of the ways Republicans in NC have attempted to repress the vote. I don't need the DNC telling me anything. I've watched it unfold before my eyes. You don't know me or where I get my knowledge so don't pretend you do.

(07-19-2014 10:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

are the people of NC dumb enough to vote Democrat in the Senate election?

Hagan is a solid moderate Democrat. Outside money, much of it from the Koch Brothers, has been used to pound away at her and her poll numbers dipped, but other outside sources have begun to push money into the race in favor of Hagan. There has been a rebound in the poll numbers. The Hagan campaign has also significantly out raised the Tillis campaign up to this point.

North Carolina voters traditionally have favored moderation more often than not. With the rise of the tea party in NC the GOP has shifted away from the Chamber of Commerce brand of conservatism that characterized much of the state party in the past. Now that they have held power for a few years the luster has worn off considerably. Tillis, as Speaker of the House, has been a leader in pushing the policies that are angering much of the state's citizens. If Tillis can't separate himself from this legislation the likelihood of GOP victory goes down considerably.

I know you are a partisan so I'll let the "dumb" remark slide.

(07-19-2014 03:57 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

are the people of NC dumb enough to vote Democrat in the Senate election?

Hagan is a solid moderate Democrat. Outside money, much of it from the Koch Brothers, has been used to pound away at her and her poll numbers dipped, but other outside sources have begun to push money into the race in favor of Hagan. There has been a rebound in the poll numbers. The Hagan campaign has also significantly out raised the Tillis campaign up to this point.

North Carolina voters traditionally have favored moderation more often than not. With the rise of the tea party in NC the GOP has shifted away from the Chamber of Commerce brand of conservatism that characterized much of the state party in the past. Now that they have held power for a few years the luster has worn off considerably. Tillis, as Speaker of the House, has been a leader in pushing the policies that are angering much of the state's citizens. If Tillis can't separate himself from this legislation the likelihood of GOP victory goes down considerably.

I know you are a partisan so I'll let the "dumb" remark slide.

Moderate?!?! She's so far left Hillary looks rightwing. Hagan votes with Obama more than most democrats. She dodged voters when Obamacare was being put together, she came to NC a couple of times but refused to meet with voters. That is why I see her as the worst Senator. Clueless, Spineless, WORTHLESS. GOP establishment does get what they deserve for pushing Tillis on us.

(07-19-2014 03:30 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:23 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 09:21 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  The race is really a toss up. Hagan has good constituent services and hasn't shown signs of foot in mouth disease as Ellmers, Fox, Tillis, McCrory, and some of our other elected officials have been prone to do. As is the case in most races, it is all about turnout. Midterm favors the GOP but voter repression efforts and the actions of the GOP General Assembly might result in higher than normal DEM turnout. It should be interesting with all the out of state $$$$$ that is flowing into NC.


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The bolded is nothing more than a DNC talking point. It's so sad that you can't think for yourself, and you need the fine folks at the DNC to do it for you.

Reducing early voting days, ending early registration for high school students, ending Sunday early voting, allowing out of precinct observers at polling place, strategically moving polling places, overloading Democratic leaning polling places, challenging college students right to vote and run for office. These are a few of the ways Republicans in NC have attempted to repress the vote. I don't need the DNC telling me anything. I've watched it unfold before my eyes. You don't know me or where I get my knowledge so don't pretend you do.

All DNC talking points. You're right, I DON'T know you. However, when you trot out the standard liberal/DNC talking points, I feel comfortable labeling you a nitwit. Who needs others to do his thinking for him.

(07-19-2014 03:57 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

are the people of NC dumb enough to vote Democrat in the Senate election?

Hagan is a solid moderate Democrat. Outside money, much of it from the Koch Brothers, has been used to pound away at her and her poll numbers dipped, but other outside sources have begun to push money into the race in favor of Hagan. There has been a rebound in the poll numbers. The Hagan campaign has also significantly out raised the Tillis campaign up to this point.

North Carolina voters traditionally have favored moderation more often than not. With the rise of the tea party in NC the GOP has shifted away from the Chamber of Commerce brand of conservatism that characterized much of the state party in the past. Now that they have held power for a few years the luster has worn off considerably. Tillis, as Speaker of the House, has been a leader in pushing the policies that are angering much of the state's citizens. If Tillis can't separate himself from this legislation the likelihood of GOP victory goes down considerably.

I know you are a partisan so I'll let the "dumb" remark slide.

So, I'll ask again. Are the people of NC dumb enough to vote Democrat?

It's this simple. Any community dumb enough to vote for a democrat in the Senate race deserves everything that happens to them. The problem lies in the fact that those people take us all down with them.

(07-18-2014 10:22 PM)Niner National Wrote:  And her competition is focusing his efforts right now on getting pro-life license plates legal in NC. Wasting tax payer dollars on something that has already been shot down twice.

It doesn't matter if we elect Hagan or Tillis. Either way a complete moron will be representing NC in the Senate.

one of the morons will vote for hate filled, senile, and weazen harry reid as senate majority leader. the other will not.

that's really all you have to know.

(07-19-2014 04:39 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 03:57 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 10:12 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Are you familiar with her opposition?

Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

are the people of NC dumb enough to vote Democrat in the Senate election?

Hagan is a solid moderate Democrat. Outside money, much of it from the Koch Brothers, has been used to pound away at her and her poll numbers dipped, but other outside sources have begun to push money into the race in favor of Hagan. There has been a rebound in the poll numbers. The Hagan campaign has also significantly out raised the Tillis campaign up to this point.

North Carolina voters traditionally have favored moderation more often than not. With the rise of the tea party in NC the GOP has shifted away from the Chamber of Commerce brand of conservatism that characterized much of the state party in the past. Now that they have held power for a few years the luster has worn off considerably. Tillis, as Speaker of the House, has been a leader in pushing the policies that are angering much of the state's citizens. If Tillis can't separate himself from this legislation the likelihood of GOP victory goes down considerably.

I know you are a partisan so I'll let the "dumb" remark slide.

Moderate?!?! She's so far left Hillary looks rightwing. Hagan votes with Obama more than most democrats. She dodged voters when Obamacare was being put together, she came to NC a couple of times but refused to meet with voters. That is why I see her as the worst Senator. Clueless, Spineless, WORTHLESS. GOP establishment does get what they deserve for pushing Tillis on us.

If you consider Hagan something other than a moderate then that says a lot about your perspective.


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(07-19-2014 08:36 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  If you consider Hagan something other than a moderate then that says a lot about your perspective.


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And if you consider her a moderate, that says something about yours. And if she is a moderate democrat, that says something about the democrats.

(07-19-2014 08:36 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 04:39 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 03:57 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:26 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 06:52 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Yes, he's a bumbling FOOL. The national GOP establishment wanted the candidate with the most name recognition and backed him over more electable and qualified candidates. NC will stay blue in 2014 barring a major spending spree by the GOP to change this.

are the people of NC dumb enough to vote Democrat in the Senate election?

Hagan is a solid moderate Democrat. Outside money, much of it from the Koch Brothers, has been used to pound away at her and her poll numbers dipped, but other outside sources have begun to push money into the race in favor of Hagan. There has been a rebound in the poll numbers. The Hagan campaign has also significantly out raised the Tillis campaign up to this point.

North Carolina voters traditionally have favored moderation more often than not. With the rise of the tea party in NC the GOP has shifted away from the Chamber of Commerce brand of conservatism that characterized much of the state party in the past. Now that they have held power for a few years the luster has worn off considerably. Tillis, as Speaker of the House, has been a leader in pushing the policies that are angering much of the state's citizens. If Tillis can't separate himself from this legislation the likelihood of GOP victory goes down considerably.

I know you are a partisan so I'll let the "dumb" remark slide.

Moderate?!?! She's so far left Hillary looks rightwing. Hagan votes with Obama more than most democrats. She dodged voters when Obamacare was being put together, she came to NC a couple of times but refused to meet with voters. That is why I see her as the worst Senator. Clueless, Spineless, WORTHLESS. GOP establishment does get what they deserve for pushing Tillis on us.

If you consider Hagan something other than a moderate then that says a lot about your perspective.


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Obama is a communist plain and simple. Kay Hagan votes to support Obama 96% of the time so Hagan is a communist plain and simple. Saying she is a moderate is like saying Putin is a moderate. NO Republican representing NC would ever vote in support of Obama 96% of the time.

kay hagin had to be a fluke. she rode obama's coattails in 2008, and beat an oddly disinterested and erratic elizabeth dole. blew her out, in fact. obama hit NC very, very hard in 2008.

the other senator is a republican, the governor is a republican -- all scoring 53-55% in their last elections. even with the advantages of incumbency, I just don't see her winning reelection. hell, romney won in 2012, and that was with obama in the ticket, which probably turned out 150% of Mecklenburg county

on edit : NC is one of those states where libertarians can throw an election, though. dunno why there are so many in a southern state; I suspect it's the research triangle. tons of conformist millennials all being identically "different".

(07-19-2014 06:15 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 03:30 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:23 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 09:21 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  The race is really a toss up. Hagan has good constituent services and hasn't shown signs of foot in mouth disease as Ellmers, Fox, Tillis, McCrory, and some of our other elected officials have been prone to do. As is the case in most races, it is all about turnout. Midterm favors the GOP but voter repression efforts and the actions of the GOP General Assembly might result in higher than normal DEM turnout. It should be interesting with all the out of state $$$$$ that is flowing into NC.


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The bolded is nothing more than a DNC talking point. It's so sad that you can't think for yourself, and you need the fine folks at the DNC to do it for you.

Reducing early voting days, ending early registration for high school students, ending Sunday early voting, allowing out of precinct observers at polling place, strategically moving polling places, overloading Democratic leaning polling places, challenging college students right to vote and run for office. These are a few of the ways Republicans in NC have attempted to repress the vote. I don't need the DNC telling me anything. I've watched it unfold before my eyes. You don't know me or where I get my knowledge so don't pretend you do.

All DNC talking points. You're right, I DON'T know you. However, when you trot out the standard liberal/DNC talking points, I feel comfortable labeling you a nitwit. Who needs others to do his thinking for him.

So you get on discussion boards to insult people? I was attempting to have a reasonable discussion about the race but I guess that is out of the question.

I've been a fairly active partisan Democrat, active at the county and district level over the years. I've also worked as a volunteer poll worker for the board of elections. I really don't need, nor have I relied on DNC, NCDP, or any other organization's talking points.

It can be very productive to discuss issues with people with different viewpoints. If I just wanted to read what people post that I agree with I would go to a site where everyone is a Democrat and we could split hairs. I would much rather hear from people that identify as Tea Party, Libertarian, Social Conservative, or general Republican. I just don't get why so many just want reinforcement of their views and are so defensive and angry when someone doesn't hold those same views.


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