(07-21-2014 04:04 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:56 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:21 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:11 PM)Maize Wrote:  In reality it more like especially early the AAC/MWC shared slot...doubt the P5 wants to play against C-USA, MAC or Sun Belt...also before you wasn't even guarantee that...you had to meet strict requirements.

Probably doesn't want to play MWC or AAC either and that is why these two conferences lost 6 bowls against BCS opponents between them. The one "guaranteed" spot is most likely to help fend off any possible monopoly lawsuit.

Gotta feeling they would if/when Forced they would rather play a Cincinnati/UCF/Fresno State and Boise State over any school currently in the C-USA, MAC or Sun Belt...the Champions of the Sun Belt, C-USA or MAC with the committee will almost have to have a 2 Game cushion over the AAC/MWC Champion...

My gotta gut feeling is BCS will do everything they can to avoid controversy over the NonBCS selection. If I recall 2013 correctly, NIU, if they had not lost to Toledo, was ranked higher than UCF and would have gone to a BCS bowl instead of the Knights. Is that correct or do I have this all messed up?

NIU had two victores over BCS opponents Iowa and Purdue. UCF had a BCS victory over Penn State and a BCS loss to South Carolina. It would not surprise me at all to see controversy over this NonBCS "guaranteed" spot regarding the selection of the NonBCS team.

Got it wrong...in 2013 the AAC was a AQ League....The AAC Champion had a bid regardless of record/ranking...

Thanks for correction. My bad.

(07-21-2014 03:53 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  ...the Champions of the Sun Belt, C-USA or MAC with the committee will almost have to have a 2 Game cushion over the AAC/MWC Champion...

Why does this sentence keep appearing like it is gospel? Say Marshall goes 13-0 this year against what is a very easy schedule. Please name the 10-2 AAC champion and 11-2 MWC champion, tell us which 9 opponents they beat and which 2 were losses, and why those teams will prevail against Marshall?

One game, maybe. Two games, I just don't see it.

That is what I am saying...in the end the Access Slot is a Glorified Exhibition Game and ESPN IMO would want the schools that would get them the best TV Number...all things being equal the AAC / MWC Champion has a better brand

(07-21-2014 04:10 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:53 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  ...the Champions of the Sun Belt, C-USA or MAC with the committee will almost have to have a 2 Game cushion over the AAC/MWC Champion...

Why does this sentence keep appearing like it is gospel? Say Marshall goes 13-0 this year against what is a very easy schedule. Please name the 10-2 AAC champion and 11-2 MWC champion, tell us which 9 opponents they beat and which 2 were losses, and why those teams will prevail against Marshall?

One game, maybe. Two games, I just don't see it.

That is what I am saying...in the end the Access Slot is a Glorified Exhibition Game and ESPN IMO would want the schools that would get them the best TV Number...all things being equal the AAC / MWC Champion has a better brand

We will see if that is true going forward. We have never seen the version of the AAC that will take the field this season. The MWC has a few teams that are solid, but many are not anything special. Even Boise's program seems to have taken a step backwards. In the only bowl match-up between the MWC and C-USA, North Texas beat UNLV 36-14. Also, Marshall has Cato returning at QB, and they have the easiest schedule for go undefeated this season. I think some AAC and MWC fans need to give Marshall a little more respect. Remember, last season Marshall beat Maryland 31-20 in the Military Bowl. I really don't think the P5s view the G5 conferences very differently. I believe they just lumped us all together, and G5 is that brand. There are no first among equals.

Have respect for Marshall...heck the last time Louisville played Marshall you beat us in Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and we had Teddy Bridgewater at QB that day and two other Future 1st Round NFL Draft Picks starting.

My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

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(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  Have respect for Marshall...heck the last time Louisville played Marshall you beat us in Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and we had Teddy Bridgewater at QB that day and two other Future 1st Round NFL Draft Picks starting.

My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

You believe Northern Illinois, a team that has won 11 or more games 4 seasons in a row and has earned a BCS Bowl bid (with 1 loss) would have to have a 2 game cushion over any team that happens to be from the American or MWC?

I think your perception of the importance of conference affiliation amongst the Have Nots is utterly delusional.

(07-21-2014 08:24 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  Have respect for Marshall...heck the last time Louisville played Marshall you beat us in Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and we had Teddy Bridgewater at QB that day and two other Future 1st Round NFL Draft Picks starting.

My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

You believe Northern Illinois, a team that has won 11 or more games 4 seasons in a row and has earned a BCS Bowl bid (with 1 loss) would have to have a 2 game cushion over any team that happens to be from the American or MWC?

I think your perception of the importance of conference affiliation amongst the Have Nots is utterly delusional.

The difference is you have a Boise State-(MWC) and a UCF-(AAC) that when they went to a BCS Bowl they actually won...Northern Illinois on the other hand did lose by 21 points in the Orange Bowl to Florida State...that is the difference and that is whether it is fair or not those two schools/leagues have the uphand against the C-USA, Sunbelt and MAC...

(07-21-2014 08:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:24 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  Have respect for Marshall...heck the last time Louisville played Marshall you beat us in Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and we had Teddy Bridgewater at QB that day and two other Future 1st Round NFL Draft Picks starting.

My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

You believe Northern Illinois, a team that has won 11 or more games 4 seasons in a row and has earned a BCS Bowl bid (with 1 loss) would have to have a 2 game cushion over any team that happens to be from the American or MWC?

I think your perception of the importance of conference affiliation amongst the Have Nots is utterly delusional.

The difference is you have a Boise State-(MWC) and a UCF-(AAC) that when they went to a BCS Bowl they actually won...Northern Illinois on the other hand did lose by 21 points in the Orange Bowl to Florida State...that is the difference and that is whether it is fair or not those two schools/leagues have the uphand against the C-USA, Sunbelt and MAC...

The MWC and Nbe/AAC conferences and their teams have been around a while and have had the advantage of recruiting to its bowl and tv arrangements. CUSA-14 will undoubtedly have to have some time to allow its members to catch up in recruiting. CUSA has retained a good set of bowls and strengthened its tv package and that should help a lot.

UCF had a marvelously superb season, a season many BCS schools will never achieve. But I also reflect on USC when they won the national championship with a sophomore laden team. Sam "Bam" Cunningham was the FB, Mike Garrett the TB, and the old student body left and student body right strategy. Everyone thought USC would win two more straight national championships. It never happened; USC did not come close. UCF enjoyed that marvelously superb season in 2013. And that type of season is difficult for any school to repeat or achieve two years running.

(07-21-2014 08:53 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:24 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  Have respect for Marshall...heck the last time Louisville played Marshall you beat us in Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and we had Teddy Bridgewater at QB that day and two other Future 1st Round NFL Draft Picks starting.

My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

You believe Northern Illinois, a team that has won 11 or more games 4 seasons in a row and has earned a BCS Bowl bid (with 1 loss) would have to have a 2 game cushion over any team that happens to be from the American or MWC?

I think your perception of the importance of conference affiliation amongst the Have Nots is utterly delusional.

The difference is you have a Boise State-(MWC) and a UCF-(AAC) that when they went to a BCS Bowl they actually won...Northern Illinois on the other hand did lose by 21 points in the Orange Bowl to Florida State...that is the difference and that is whether it is fair or not those two schools/leagues have the uphand against the C-USA, Sunbelt and MAC...

The MWC and Nbe/AAC conferences and their teams have been around a while and have had the advantage of recruiting to its bowl and tv arrangements. CUSA-14 will undoubtedly have to have some time to allow its members to catch up in recruiting. CUSA has retained a good set of bowls and strengthened its tv package and that should help a lot.

1. The Nbe is Georgetown, Nova, Xavier...etc...etc...the New BIG EAST is that league...the AAC is basically a Merger of C-USA 2.0 & UConn, UC & USF...

2. That is also my point...the AAC/MWC right now has a hellva head start and both leagues are boosted by the Exposure given to them by ESPN as compared to other G5 Leagues.

(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

Brand will have nothing to do with who gets a bid to the Access Bowl Game. Performance on the field will determine that. I will also go one step further to say even though some of you view the MWC and AAC to be head and shoulders above the rest of the G-5, I guarantee you the Selection Board Committee will not view it that way.

So there will be no need for some 2 game cushion Maize.

(07-21-2014 09:57 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

Brand will have nothing to do with who gets a bid to the Access Bowl Game. Performance on the field will determine that. I will also go one step further to say even though some of you view the MWC and AAC to be head and shoulders above the rest of the G-5, I guarantee you the Selection Board Committee will not view it that way.

So there will be no need for some 2 game cushion Maize.

Ok...if you say so...SoS will also have a major factor...if you think a 12-1 Marshall will get that slot over let's say a 10-2 UCF that plays Penn State, Missouri and BYU OOC or a Cincinnati that might also go 10-2 and they play Ohio State and Miami OOC or a 11-2 Boise State that has Ole Miss and BYU OOC...Keep thinking that, the AAC & MWC are the only G5 Leagues that have actually won their BCS Bowl Games...C-USA & Sunbelt has never sent a school and the MAC got crushed...

(07-21-2014 08:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:24 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  Have respect for Marshall...heck the last time Louisville played Marshall you beat us in Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and we had Teddy Bridgewater at QB that day and two other Future 1st Round NFL Draft Picks starting.

My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

You believe Northern Illinois, a team that has won 11 or more games 4 seasons in a row and has earned a BCS Bowl bid (with 1 loss) would have to have a 2 game cushion over any team that happens to be from the American or MWC?

I think your perception of the importance of conference affiliation amongst the Have Nots is utterly delusional.

The difference is you have a Boise State-(MWC) and a UCF-(AAC) that when they went to a BCS Bowl they actually won...Northern Illinois on the other hand did lose by 21 points in the Orange Bowl to Florida State...that is the difference and that is whether it is fair or not those two schools/leagues have the uphand against the C-USA, Sunbelt and MAC...

you live in a fantasy world.

(07-21-2014 10:49 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 08:24 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 06:40 PM)Maize Wrote:  Have respect for Marshall...heck the last time Louisville played Marshall you beat us in Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and we had Teddy Bridgewater at QB that day and two other Future 1st Round NFL Draft Picks starting.

My only point is in order for a Marshall or anyone else in either the C-USA, Sun Belt or MAC to overcome the AAC / MWC Champion they will very likely need a 2 Game cushion...a 13-0 school from those 3 leagues would beat out the AAC / MWC Champion...but if they are 12-1 and the AAC / MWC is 11-2 my guess is they will go with the better brand.

You believe Northern Illinois, a team that has won 11 or more games 4 seasons in a row and has earned a BCS Bowl bid (with 1 loss) would have to have a 2 game cushion over any team that happens to be from the American or MWC?

I think your perception of the importance of conference affiliation amongst the Have Nots is utterly delusional.

The difference is you have a Boise State-(MWC) and a UCF-(AAC) that when they went to a BCS Bowl they actually won...Northern Illinois on the other hand did lose by 21 points in the Orange Bowl to Florida State...that is the difference and that is whether it is fair or not those two schools/leagues have the uphand against the C-USA, Sunbelt and MAC...

you live in a fantasy world.

Truth hurts...of the G5 Leagues only the AAC-(1st year of existence and UCF beats the Big XII Champion by double digits) and the MWC-(Boise State has two BCS Bowl wins in 8 years) have won BCS Bowl Games...they are the ones with the stronger OOC Schedules...they make the most $$$ and have the most exposure of the G5 leagues and they have schools-(Boise State/UConn) that have a "National Brand"...again...the MAC Rep lost by 21 points and the SunBelt and C-USA never has made it to a BCS Bowl Game...it is what it is...

(07-19-2014 02:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 10:47 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Sounds like a FCS TV package. With the quality and ease of accessing espn3 via Apple TV etc,[b] I prefer the Sun Belt's deal with ESPN in terms of viewing the games.[/b]

"BALTIMORE, July 17, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SBGI) (the "Company" or "Sinclair") announced today that it has launched the American Sports Network ("ASN"), a collegiate sports initiative to be broadcast on a number of Sinclair's broadcast television stations, and has entered into comprehensive sports rights agreements with a number of distinguished NCAA Division I conferences including Conference USA, the Colonial Athletic Association, Big South Conference, Southern Conference, and Patriot League. The initiative will be led by Doron Gorshein, Chief Operating Officer of Sinclair Networks, a division of Sinclair, who joined the Company in January 2014. The announcement was made by David Smith, President and CEO of Sinclair."

That makes no sense to me. It's much easier to turn on the T.V. and change the channel to your local CW network. Most are in HD. Plus, most of the Sun Belt's ESPN games will only be available on ESPN3. Only a few will be aired on one of the ESPN channels. Sure some of your games might get carried on local stations, but those games probably won't get added to the ESPN3 lineup.

This deal allows for C-USA's tier 3 games to be aired on local Sinclair stations within our conference's geography. The games can also be syndicated to other broadcasters, and carried by Sinclair stations in other markets. Also, these games will be produced by Sinclair, but will still be available for viewing over the C-USA Digital Network. I don't think we will be dealing with terrible student produced stadium feeds like we had to deal with on ESPN3, back when UNT was in the Sun Belt.

When UNT was in the Sun Belt, only getting 3 conference games a season picked up by ESPN (1 on ESPN2 and 2 on ESPN3), I hated it. I think this C-USA deal with Sinclair is the perfect complement to our deals with Fox Sports and CBS Sports. This season every North Texas football game will be on T.V and I believe they will all be available online through the C-USA Digital Network too. It sure looks like a good deal to me.

FYI...If a SBC game is televised locally, it must be broadcast on ESPN3 as well. Essentially every SBC game will be offered on ESPN3.

CW's reach is curious though. Its a station that is run by a bunch of different entities, and its local control is questionable. A North Texas game might be broadcast in Dallas...but the CW Station in Austin might not have it, while the station in Houston will have it. Not to mention that CW is really limited to larger markets. Works fine for CUSA...provided you stick to major market teams, but smaller market teams could have no way to watch the game in their area.

I also have concerns that much like no recruit tunes to ESPN3, no prospective recruit turns to CW to watch College football. Nor does he probably know what channel that's on.

(07-21-2014 12:57 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 11:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 11:04 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 10:50 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 09:30 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Summary of Nbe/AAC teams and records:

Cincy is 0-2 in BCS Bowls.
UConn is 0-1 in BCS Bowls.
UCF is 1-0 in BCS Bowls.
The Nbe/AAC is 1-3 in BCS Bowls.

Liberty Bowl from1996-2012: Nbe/AAC teams excluding Tulsa won 3 Liberty Bowls in 16 years.

Lol. Nice cherry picking. I can do that too.

Number of BCs bowl participants in the current CUSA--0

Liberty Bowls from 1996-2012--Current CUSA teams excluding S Miss won 0 Liberty Bowls in 16 years.

The difference, of course, current CUSA teams are not making Alice in Fairyland boasts foolishly made in Times Square and still continue. Just as a reminder, eight of CUSA's current 14 teams were not eligible for the Liberty Bowl from 1996 to 2012 as they were not a member of the conference. Nbe/AAC has one more BCS bowl victory than CUSA.

And there you have it. "Facts" finally exhausted, your thread runs headlong into Alice in Wonderland with yet another rant involving the advertising banners in Times Square. In real life, the AAC's first year of existence resulted in a BCS bowl victory over the Big-12 champion and an outright national championship in basketball. The reality you are struggling with is the AAC's first year went much better than most anyone could have expected. However, in your Wonderland, the AAC totally "under-delivered and "overpromised" in thier first year. Frankly, i dont think the AAC could have delivered much more in thier first year. You might want to adjust the focus knob on your view through the looking glass.

Over Promised, Under Delivered: No BCS, no $18M tv contract, no Orlando, Charlotte, or PInstripe Bowls. I thought I would never see anything as dumbfound as the Denver Airport episode but darned if it didn't.

Congrats to UCF on their marvelous special season and superb BCS bowl victory. Congrats to UConn for double national basketball champs.

Congrats to Big East for their marvelous tv contract.

Congrats to MAC and SBC in a very substantial improvement in their bowls.

Congrats to CUSA for their nice set up of bowls, doubling of tv appearances from 2012 CUSA, and steadily, quietly, and diligently working to become better.

Congrats to Sinclair, who had a vision that they could start small and slowly and quietly and diligently build a national tv program.

Congrats to ACC for the Notre Dame affiliation, binding GOR contract, and the fine additions of Pitt, Syracuse, and Louisville.

Congrats to B12 for Sugar Bowl agreement with SEC and another $4M per B12 school.

Congrats to everyone who works hard, diligently, and quietly in pursuit of their dreams. BCS is a monopoly but there is no monopoly on working hard to achieve a vision. My best to all.

I am a NonBCS football fan and hope each NonBCS conferences places a team or two in the Top 25. That sure would make it hard for BCS to keep excluding the NonBCS teams.

Good Gosh, you have to stop gushing. Sinclair is not a National TV thing. Its a pish posh of owned CW Stations mostly congregated in the Southern United States. CW is hardly present in every market in America, and a sports network that signs deals with CUSA and a bunch of FCS leagues is realistically just looking for a way to stay afloat, not start a national TV network

Also, you should be aware that the actual contract with Sinclair probably gives peanuts...or nothing in TV rights. There is no way on planet Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, or Neptune that they could ever put forth any sort of a bid to seriously challenge ESPN or Fox. Its a 3rd tier station that is essentially broadcasting games for free and hoping to sell some advertisements.

(07-21-2014 04:10 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:53 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  ...the Champions of the Sun Belt, C-USA or MAC with the committee will almost have to have a 2 Game cushion over the AAC/MWC Champion...

Why does this sentence keep appearing like it is gospel? Say Marshall goes 13-0 this year against what is a very easy schedule. Please name the 10-2 AAC champion and 11-2 MWC champion, tell us which 9 opponents they beat and which 2 were losses, and why those teams will prevail against Marshall?

One game, maybe. Two games, I just don't see it.

That is what I am saying...in the end the Access Slot is a Glorified Exhibition Game and ESPN IMO would want the schools that would get them the best TV Number...all things being equal the AAC / MWC Champion has a better brand

NCAA chooses who goes in the slot, not ESPN. My guess is they will try to avoid any controvery at all with those picks...especially early. If an SBC, CUSA, or MAC team goes undefeated and the AAC and MWC don't have an undefeated champ, I expect the Undefeated team will get the slot.

P5 has already proven they don't want to play the AAC or MWC either for the record. How many bowl games do the two leagues have left against P5 leagues now?

(07-21-2014 11:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  CW's reach is curious though.

Sinclair isn't limited to CW.

They have local stations for a multitude of networks. Now would a FOX or ABC Sinclair affiliate give up a game under this contract for a C-USA game? I don't know, as it would depend on the other obligations.

(07-21-2014 11:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 04:10 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:53 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  ...the Champions of the Sun Belt, C-USA or MAC with the committee will almost have to have a 2 Game cushion over the AAC/MWC Champion...

Why does this sentence keep appearing like it is gospel? Say Marshall goes 13-0 this year against what is a very easy schedule. Please name the 10-2 AAC champion and 11-2 MWC champion, tell us which 9 opponents they beat and which 2 were losses, and why those teams will prevail against Marshall?

One game, maybe. Two games, I just don't see it.

That is what I am saying...in the end the Access Slot is a Glorified Exhibition Game and ESPN IMO would want the schools that would get them the best TV Number...all things being equal the AAC / MWC Champion has a better brand

NCAA chooses who goes in the slot, not ESPN. My guess is they will try to avoid any controvery at all with those picks...especially early. If an SBC, CUSA, or MAC team goes undefeated and the AAC and MWC don't have an undefeated champ, I expect the Undefeated team will get the slot.

P5 has already proven they don't want to play the AAC or MWC either for the record. How many bowl games do the two leagues have left against P5 leagues now?

Actually the NCAA doesn't choose that slot...the NCAA has nothing to do with College Football...Condi Rice, Oliver Luck and others chosen by most the P5 make up that committee...and you're right, the P5 really more then likely doesn't want to play the AAC/MWC but if force to play a G5 league those two are the most tolerable...and actually we are not in disagreement in regards if someone other than the AAC/MWC Goes 13-0...the C-USA, Sunbelt or MAC Champ would IMO need to go undefeated or have a 2 Game Cushion...if the C-USA Champ is 12-1 and the MWC Champ is 11-2-(and Boise State) just my opinion Boise would get the nod...same goes if it is Cincinnati, Houston or UCF if they are 10-2 and the C-USA Champ is 12-1...BTW, ESPN owns the Rights to those games lock, stock and barrel, they are putting for $470 Million a year for those rights...

(07-21-2014 11:35 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 11:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 04:10 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:53 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 03:43 PM)Maize Wrote:  ...the Champions of the Sun Belt, C-USA or MAC with the committee will almost have to have a 2 Game cushion over the AAC/MWC Champion...

Why does this sentence keep appearing like it is gospel? Say Marshall goes 13-0 this year against what is a very easy schedule. Please name the 10-2 AAC champion and 11-2 MWC champion, tell us which 9 opponents they beat and which 2 were losses, and why those teams will prevail against Marshall?

One game, maybe. Two games, I just don't see it.

That is what I am saying...in the end the Access Slot is a Glorified Exhibition Game and ESPN IMO would want the schools that would get them the best TV Number...all things being equal the AAC / MWC Champion has a better brand

NCAA chooses who goes in the slot, not ESPN. My guess is they will try to avoid any controvery at all with those picks...especially early. If an SBC, CUSA, or MAC team goes undefeated and the AAC and MWC don't have an undefeated champ, I expect the Undefeated team will get the slot.

P5 has already proven they don't want to play the AAC or MWC either for the record. How many bowl games do the two leagues have left against P5 leagues now?

Actually the NCAA doesn't choose that slot...the NCAA has nothing to do with College Football...Condi Rice, Oliver Luck and others chosen by most the P5 make up that committee...and actually we are not in disagreement...the C-USA, Sunbelt or MAC Champ would IMO need to go undefeated or have a 2 Game Cushion...if the C-USA Champ is 12-1 and the MWC Champ is 11-2-(and Boise State) just my opinion Boise would get the nod...same goes if it is Cincinnati, Houston or UCF if they are 10-2 and the C-USA Champ is 12-1...BTW, ESPN owns the Rights to those games lock, stock and barrel...

I agree they'll need to finish with a better record, but two games would be insane.

Rankings have proven over the years that generally the undefeated P5 is always rated higher than any 1 loss P5. If a Northern Illinois is sitting undefeated, and Boise is 11-1 (Which I admit, the idea of Boise at 11-1 is funny considering their coach)...and NIU has a decent lead in most polls, I expect they get that slot.

The P5 really doesn't think much of any G5 league, and the ratings are going to be very high regardless the game because of the way ESPN is pushing the game. Would ESPN like Boise State to be sitting in that game? Sure, but there wont be much boat rocking...especially considering this system was created to dump a bunch of situations where quality teams got left out because they were not liked by a random computer.

Marshall might be the test case...look at their schedule and compare it to UCF, UC and Boise...if those 3 get to double digit wins and Marshall goes 12-1...can see it very easily going to the AAC/MWC Champ...now Marshall is going to be very good but that schedule is just bad...