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RE: The End Is Near
Another thing that I think will become a factor is that eventually, Alabama is going to tire of sharing the revenue they earn with their conference "brethren".

Eventually, I see an AAA division of FBS (the very top 10-15 revenue programs) AA (the middle of the pack in revenue), and A (everyone else).

TV contracts will become institution or "small group" based (with even more division breakdown, perhaps even by school)

For example, Alabama, Auburn, UT, UF, LSU will have their own individual deals...all other SEC schools will be "lumped together".

I'm not saying that's how it will exactly break down...but eventually Bama (for example) is going to tire of carrying the mail for OM, MSU, UK, etc.

And before anyone starts...outside of the first weekend of the tournament (maybe the second) basketball doesn't matter to those schools one bit.
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I think the p5 split will be the best thing that's ever happened to memphis and the American. Our conference has already stated that we intend to keep pace. At this point we will start to get better recruits and better recognition as a program and conference. Good players that didn't quite make the sec cut but didn't want to go to memphis like southern miss recruits (some 3 or 4 star guys) would begin to flock to us.
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RE: The End Is Near
(07-21-2014 02:41 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:41 AM)TJT Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:27 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 10:40 AM)TJT Wrote:  
(07-20-2014 04:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  4 will become 8 pretty quickly IMHO...

They signed a 12 year contract for the Final Four deal.

They didn't end the BCS until the contract ran out, despite massive amounts of public disapproval.

I think it will run the 12 year course then expand to 8 or 16.

This is purely speculative but here goes. The power leagues will use the next 12 years to run through the final stages of conference expansion and re-alignment. The 5 conferences will end up with a total of 16 teams a piece for 80 teams. They will split each conference into 2 eight team divisions. Division winners will make up 10 automatic bids, and 6 at large bids selected by committee will round out a 16 team playoff tree. The smaller leagues will remain in the division and get some kind of backhanded promise that if there is an undefeated team they will get an at large bid to the tournament. That way the major players will control the majority of the thing, and the little guys will still get some crumbs. Bowl games could still exist as they would serve a purpose like the NIT, but they would get a much smaller share of the pot.

I agree the numbers logic takes each of the P5 conferences to 16 but the financial logic argues against it. That is why the BXII has stayed at 10 teams & others have stayed where they are. The bottom line is the bottom line, conferences are applying a very simple formula: does the addition of X add an amount equal or more than the revenue each of the current members receive from current conference revenue totals? If not the conference won't do it, if so they will. The problem associated with further expansion is that there currently are no non-P5 schools that will meet the minimum criteria for consideration as an expansion P5 school. Even BYU, Boise, Cincy & UConn will likely never meet this criteria much less others like our university - even with outstanding on-field performance. There might be an alternate approach where a current P5 school changes its P5 membership to another P5 conference that might tilt the consideration of a non-P5 school but I can't think of any at this time.

Yep greed is going to be a problem, but the power 5 leagues will have to take on some smaller teams for the numbers to work. The SEC and the B1G both want 16 teams because scheduling in a 14 team conference is a nightmare. But neither seem to be willing to look outside the power conferences for new members. Or maybe they are just waiting to see who separates themselves from the pack.

The Big 12 debacle is entirely Texas' doing, and I don't see how losing Nebraska and Texas A&M helped the conference. I think the other power conferences are going to put pressure on the Big 12 to expand to match their numbers and they will regret losing those programs when they have to replace them with teams like Houston, Tulsa, or Colorado State.

I agree on the Big 12 and agree with the pundits that there will be one last major shift in expansion. I don't think the Big 10, Pac 12 or SEC are finished. Seems realistic that they will pluck from each other and/or the ACC and Big 12. Once that happens, the Big 12 and ACC will need to fill in and, hopefully, Memphis will have positioned itself to get the invite to sit at the "Big Boy" table.
There is nothing that is being proposed that, prevents any FBS team from becoming a big-boy in football, being ranked every year, and being considered a major program on the national stage.

There are lots of teams in the P5s that have almost no chance of ever being big-boys in football, ever being ranked, and who know they are and will be W's for the top half of their Conference, and the top G5's.

In fact I would say a team like Memphis, in the best G5 Conference has a better chance than 60% of the P5's.

Some one or more teams in your conference are going to be ranked every year, and probably ranked pretty high. Same for MWC. The other three G5's will be hit and miss.
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(07-23-2014 03:33 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 02:41 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:41 AM)TJT Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:27 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 10:40 AM)TJT Wrote:  They signed a 12 year contract for the Final Four deal.

They didn't end the BCS until the contract ran out, despite massive amounts of public disapproval.

I think it will run the 12 year course then expand to 8 or 16.

This is purely speculative but here goes. The power leagues will use the next 12 years to run through the final stages of conference expansion and re-alignment. The 5 conferences will end up with a total of 16 teams a piece for 80 teams. They will split each conference into 2 eight team divisions. Division winners will make up 10 automatic bids, and 6 at large bids selected by committee will round out a 16 team playoff tree. The smaller leagues will remain in the division and get some kind of backhanded promise that if there is an undefeated team they will get an at large bid to the tournament. That way the major players will control the majority of the thing, and the little guys will still get some crumbs. Bowl games could still exist as they would serve a purpose like the NIT, but they would get a much smaller share of the pot.

I agree the numbers logic takes each of the P5 conferences to 16 but the financial logic argues against it. That is why the BXII has stayed at 10 teams & others have stayed where they are. The bottom line is the bottom line, conferences are applying a very simple formula: does the addition of X add an amount equal or more than the revenue each of the current members receive from current conference revenue totals? If not the conference won't do it, if so they will. The problem associated with further expansion is that there currently are no non-P5 schools that will meet the minimum criteria for consideration as an expansion P5 school. Even BYU, Boise, Cincy & UConn will likely never meet this criteria much less others like our university - even with outstanding on-field performance. There might be an alternate approach where a current P5 school changes its P5 membership to another P5 conference that might tilt the consideration of a non-P5 school but I can't think of any at this time.

Yep greed is going to be a problem, but the power 5 leagues will have to take on some smaller teams for the numbers to work. The SEC and the B1G both want 16 teams because scheduling in a 14 team conference is a nightmare. But neither seem to be willing to look outside the power conferences for new members. Or maybe they are just waiting to see who separates themselves from the pack.

The Big 12 debacle is entirely Texas' doing, and I don't see how losing Nebraska and Texas A&M helped the conference. I think the other power conferences are going to put pressure on the Big 12 to expand to match their numbers and they will regret losing those programs when they have to replace them with teams like Houston, Tulsa, or Colorado State.

I agree on the Big 12 and agree with the pundits that there will be one last major shift in expansion. I don't think the Big 10, Pac 12 or SEC are finished. Seems realistic that they will pluck from each other and/or the ACC and Big 12. Once that happens, the Big 12 and ACC will need to fill in and, hopefully, Memphis will have positioned itself to get the invite to sit at the "Big Boy" table.
There is nothing that is being proposed that, prevents any FBS team from becoming a big-boy in football, being ranked every year, and being considered a major program on the national stage.

There are lots of teams in the P5s that have almost no chance of ever being big-boys in football, ever being ranked, and who know they are and will be W's for the top half of their Conference, and the top G5's.

In fact I would say a team like Memphis, in the best G5 Conference has a better chance than 60% of the P5's.

Some one or more teams in your conference are going to be ranked every year, and probably ranked pretty high. Same for MWC. The other three G5's will be hit and miss.

A big-boy by definition IS a P5 member. Financially each P5 member is light-years ahead of any non-P5 school. Sure Boise was ranked for several consecutive years but to what avail long term? Unless you are a member of the P5, as things are currently constructed, you are a relative nobody in FB financially. This is the primary motivation behind the P5 rules that require their members to play a P5 member from another P5 conference. It's to keep the revenue within the P5. And while Wake Forest, Indiana, Iowa St and Vanderbilt and some others will likely never contend for a conference title, they still reap the benefits as club members. On-the-field performance by certain G5 schools (along with certain other criteria) might get a few G5 schools a little more money in bowls & a fewer few might get in the club under unknown circumstances. But the field is pretty crowded considering the number of schools who are attempting to make themselves attractive if the chance comes. And unless Memphis make the commitment to an OCS like several contenders have done, I don't think on-field performance alone would get our university into the P5. So would I rather be Indiana with no chance for a conference title & lots of money as life-time club members or Memphis with an AAC title & relatively no money?
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RE: The End Is Near
(07-23-2014 04:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 03:33 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 02:41 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:41 AM)TJT Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:27 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I agree the numbers logic takes each of the P5 conferences to 16 but the financial logic argues against it. That is why the BXII has stayed at 10 teams & others have stayed where they are. The bottom line is the bottom line, conferences are applying a very simple formula: does the addition of X add an amount equal or more than the revenue each of the current members receive from current conference revenue totals? If not the conference won't do it, if so they will. The problem associated with further expansion is that there currently are no non-P5 schools that will meet the minimum criteria for consideration as an expansion P5 school. Even BYU, Boise, Cincy & UConn will likely never meet this criteria much less others like our university - even with outstanding on-field performance. There might be an alternate approach where a current P5 school changes its P5 membership to another P5 conference that might tilt the consideration of a non-P5 school but I can't think of any at this time.

Yep greed is going to be a problem, but the power 5 leagues will have to take on some smaller teams for the numbers to work. The SEC and the B1G both want 16 teams because scheduling in a 14 team conference is a nightmare. But neither seem to be willing to look outside the power conferences for new members. Or maybe they are just waiting to see who separates themselves from the pack.

The Big 12 debacle is entirely Texas' doing, and I don't see how losing Nebraska and Texas A&M helped the conference. I think the other power conferences are going to put pressure on the Big 12 to expand to match their numbers and they will regret losing those programs when they have to replace them with teams like Houston, Tulsa, or Colorado State.

I agree on the Big 12 and agree with the pundits that there will be one last major shift in expansion. I don't think the Big 10, Pac 12 or SEC are finished. Seems realistic that they will pluck from each other and/or the ACC and Big 12. Once that happens, the Big 12 and ACC will need to fill in and, hopefully, Memphis will have positioned itself to get the invite to sit at the "Big Boy" table.
There is nothing that is being proposed that, prevents any FBS team from becoming a big-boy in football, being ranked every year, and being considered a major program on the national stage.

There are lots of teams in the P5s that have almost no chance of ever being big-boys in football, ever being ranked, and who know they are and will be W's for the top half of their Conference, and the top G5's.

In fact I would say a team like Memphis, in the best G5 Conference has a better chance than 60% of the P5's.

Some one or more teams in your conference are going to be ranked every year, and probably ranked pretty high. Same for MWC. The other three G5's will be hit and miss.

A big-boy by definition IS a P5 member. Financially each P5 member is light-years ahead of any non-P5 school. Sure Boise was ranked for several consecutive years but to what avail long term? Unless you are a member of the P5, as things are currently constructed, you are a relative nobody in FB financially. This is the primary motivation behind the P5 rules that require their members to play a P5 member from another P5 conference. It's to keep the revenue within the P5. And while Wake Forest, Indiana, Iowa St and Vanderbilt and some others will likely never contend for a conference title, they still reap the benefits as club members. On-the-field performance by certain G5 schools (along with certain other criteria) might get a few G5 schools a little more money in bowls & a fewer few might get in the club under unknown circumstances. But the field is pretty crowded considering the number of schools who are attempting to make themselves attractive if the chance comes. And unless Memphis make the commitment to an OCS like several contenders have done, I don't think on-field performance alone would get our university into the P5. So would I rather be Indiana with no chance for a conference title & lots of money as life-time club members or Memphis with an AAC title & relatively no money?

We'd have to win a conference title first. I'd rather be Indiana.
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RE: The End Is Near
(07-23-2014 04:25 PM)TJT Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 04:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 03:33 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 02:41 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:41 AM)TJT Wrote:  Yep greed is going to be a problem, but the power 5 leagues will have to take on some smaller teams for the numbers to work. The SEC and the B1G both want 16 teams because scheduling in a 14 team conference is a nightmare. But neither seem to be willing to look outside the power conferences for new members. Or maybe they are just waiting to see who separates themselves from the pack.

The Big 12 debacle is entirely Texas' doing, and I don't see how losing Nebraska and Texas A&M helped the conference. I think the other power conferences are going to put pressure on the Big 12 to expand to match their numbers and they will regret losing those programs when they have to replace them with teams like Houston, Tulsa, or Colorado State.

I agree on the Big 12 and agree with the pundits that there will be one last major shift in expansion. I don't think the Big 10, Pac 12 or SEC are finished. Seems realistic that they will pluck from each other and/or the ACC and Big 12. Once that happens, the Big 12 and ACC will need to fill in and, hopefully, Memphis will have positioned itself to get the invite to sit at the "Big Boy" table.
There is nothing that is being proposed that, prevents any FBS team from becoming a big-boy in football, being ranked every year, and being considered a major program on the national stage.

There are lots of teams in the P5s that have almost no chance of ever being big-boys in football, ever being ranked, and who know they are and will be W's for the top half of their Conference, and the top G5's.

In fact I would say a team like Memphis, in the best G5 Conference has a better chance than 60% of the P5's.

Some one or more teams in your conference are going to be ranked every year, and probably ranked pretty high. Same for MWC. The other three G5's will be hit and miss.

A big-boy by definition IS a P5 member. Financially each P5 member is light-years ahead of any non-P5 school. Sure Boise was ranked for several consecutive years but to what avail long term? Unless you are a member of the P5, as things are currently constructed, you are a relative nobody in FB financially. This is the primary motivation behind the P5 rules that require their members to play a P5 member from another P5 conference. It's to keep the revenue within the P5. And while Wake Forest, Indiana, Iowa St and Vanderbilt and some others will likely never contend for a conference title, they still reap the benefits as club members. On-the-field performance by certain G5 schools (along with certain other criteria) might get a few G5 schools a little more money in bowls & a fewer few might get in the club under unknown circumstances. But the field is pretty crowded considering the number of schools who are attempting to make themselves attractive if the chance comes. And unless Memphis make the commitment to an OCS like several contenders have done, I don't think on-field performance alone would get our university into the P5. So would I rather be Indiana with no chance for a conference title & lots of money as life-time club members or Memphis with an AAC title & relatively no money?

We'd have to win a conference title first. I'd rather be Indiana.

That seems the obvious answer given the revenue disparity....
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RE: The End Is Near
(07-23-2014 04:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 03:33 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 02:41 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:41 AM)TJT Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:27 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I agree the numbers logic takes each of the P5 conferences to 16 but the financial logic argues against it. That is why the BXII has stayed at 10 teams & others have stayed where they are. The bottom line is the bottom line, conferences are applying a very simple formula: does the addition of X add an amount equal or more than the revenue each of the current members receive from current conference revenue totals? If not the conference won't do it, if so they will. The problem associated with further expansion is that there currently are no non-P5 schools that will meet the minimum criteria for consideration as an expansion P5 school. Even BYU, Boise, Cincy & UConn will likely never meet this criteria much less others like our university - even with outstanding on-field performance. There might be an alternate approach where a current P5 school changes its P5 membership to another P5 conference that might tilt the consideration of a non-P5 school but I can't think of any at this time.

Yep greed is going to be a problem, but the power 5 leagues will have to take on some smaller teams for the numbers to work. The SEC and the B1G both want 16 teams because scheduling in a 14 team conference is a nightmare. But neither seem to be willing to look outside the power conferences for new members. Or maybe they are just waiting to see who separates themselves from the pack.

The Big 12 debacle is entirely Texas' doing, and I don't see how losing Nebraska and Texas A&M helped the conference. I think the other power conferences are going to put pressure on the Big 12 to expand to match their numbers and they will regret losing those programs when they have to replace them with teams like Houston, Tulsa, or Colorado State.

I agree on the Big 12 and agree with the pundits that there will be one last major shift in expansion. I don't think the Big 10, Pac 12 or SEC are finished. Seems realistic that they will pluck from each other and/or the ACC and Big 12. Once that happens, the Big 12 and ACC will need to fill in and, hopefully, Memphis will have positioned itself to get the invite to sit at the "Big Boy" table.
There is nothing that is being proposed that, prevents any FBS team from becoming a big-boy in football, being ranked every year, and being considered a major program on the national stage.

There are lots of teams in the P5s that have almost no chance of ever being big-boys in football, ever being ranked, and who know they are and will be W's for the top half of their Conference, and the top G5's.

In fact I would say a team like Memphis, in the best G5 Conference has a better chance than 60% of the P5's.

Some one or more teams in your conference are going to be ranked every year, and probably ranked pretty high. Same for MWC. The other three G5's will be hit and miss.

A big-boy by definition IS a P5 member. Financially each P5 member is light-years ahead of any non-P5 school. Sure Boise was ranked for several consecutive years but to what avail long term? Unless you are a member of the P5, as things are currently constructed, you are a relative nobody in FB financially. This is the primary motivation behind the P5 rules that require their members to play a P5 member from another P5 conference. It's to keep the revenue within the P5. And while Wake Forest, Indiana, Iowa St and Vanderbilt and some others will likely never contend for a conference title, they still reap the benefits as club members. On-the-field performance by certain G5 schools (along with certain other criteria) might get a few G5 schools a little more money in bowls & a fewer few might get in the club under unknown circumstances. But the field is pretty crowded considering the number of schools who are attempting to make themselves attractive if the chance comes. And unless Memphis make the commitment to an OCS like several contenders have done, I don't think on-field performance alone would get our university into the P5. So would I rather be Indiana with no chance for a conference title & lots of money as life-time club members or Memphis with an AAC title & relatively no money?
Sorry I did not know that was the meaning here.

Still, a few G5's are going to rise to the top and become fixtures in the top 25 and reap the rewards that come with winning, and there are still going to be a lot of rewards for G5's that win.

One thing for sure is their program will not be is 'invisible' to the fans, or media that follow college football across the country, and they will receive far more exposure than the low-hanging-fruit in the P5's.

Their fans will also be much, much happier than the fans of the low-hanging-fruit when fall rolls around each year.
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(07-24-2014 07:54 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 04:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 03:33 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 02:41 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 11:41 AM)TJT Wrote:  Yep greed is going to be a problem, but the power 5 leagues will have to take on some smaller teams for the numbers to work. The SEC and the B1G both want 16 teams because scheduling in a 14 team conference is a nightmare. But neither seem to be willing to look outside the power conferences for new members. Or maybe they are just waiting to see who separates themselves from the pack.

The Big 12 debacle is entirely Texas' doing, and I don't see how losing Nebraska and Texas A&M helped the conference. I think the other power conferences are going to put pressure on the Big 12 to expand to match their numbers and they will regret losing those programs when they have to replace them with teams like Houston, Tulsa, or Colorado State.

I agree on the Big 12 and agree with the pundits that there will be one last major shift in expansion. I don't think the Big 10, Pac 12 or SEC are finished. Seems realistic that they will pluck from each other and/or the ACC and Big 12. Once that happens, the Big 12 and ACC will need to fill in and, hopefully, Memphis will have positioned itself to get the invite to sit at the "Big Boy" table.
There is nothing that is being proposed that, prevents any FBS team from becoming a big-boy in football, being ranked every year, and being considered a major program on the national stage.

There are lots of teams in the P5s that have almost no chance of ever being big-boys in football, ever being ranked, and who know they are and will be W's for the top half of their Conference, and the top G5's.

In fact I would say a team like Memphis, in the best G5 Conference has a better chance than 60% of the P5's.

Some one or more teams in your conference are going to be ranked every year, and probably ranked pretty high. Same for MWC. The other three G5's will be hit and miss.

A big-boy by definition IS a P5 member. Financially each P5 member is light-years ahead of any non-P5 school. Sure Boise was ranked for several consecutive years but to what avail long term? Unless you are a member of the P5, as things are currently constructed, you are a relative nobody in FB financially. This is the primary motivation behind the P5 rules that require their members to play a P5 member from another P5 conference. It's to keep the revenue within the P5. And while Wake Forest, Indiana, Iowa St and Vanderbilt and some others will likely never contend for a conference title, they still reap the benefits as club members. On-the-field performance by certain G5 schools (along with certain other criteria) might get a few G5 schools a little more money in bowls & a fewer few might get in the club under unknown circumstances. But the field is pretty crowded considering the number of schools who are attempting to make themselves attractive if the chance comes. And unless Memphis make the commitment to an OCS like several contenders have done, I don't think on-field performance alone would get our university into the P5. So would I rather be Indiana with no chance for a conference title & lots of money as life-time club members or Memphis with an AAC title & relatively no money?
Sorry I did not know that was the meaning here.

Still, a few G5's are going to rise to the top and become fixtures in the top 25 and reap the rewards that come with winning, and there are still going to be a lot of rewards for G5's that win.

One thing for sure is their program will not be is 'invisible' to the fans, or media that follow college football across the country, and they will receive far more exposure than the low-hanging-fruit in the P5's.

Their fans will also be much, much happier than the fans of the low-hanging-fruit when fall rolls around each year.

Appreciate the encouragement but nothing will offset the disparity in program revenue regardless of how you spin it. Like I said, Boise had an impressive on-field performance run for a number of years & received substantial visibility & bowl revenues but to what avail long term? Compared to P5 conference TV revenues & the guaranteed major bowl revenue the P5 schools share, the G5 schools are competing for relative crumbs.
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RE: The End Is Near
(07-24-2014 08:52 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-24-2014 07:54 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 04:21 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 03:33 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  
(07-21-2014 02:41 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  I agree on the Big 12 and agree with the pundits that there will be one last major shift in expansion. I don't think the Big 10, Pac 12 or SEC are finished. Seems realistic that they will pluck from each other and/or the ACC and Big 12. Once that happens, the Big 12 and ACC will need to fill in and, hopefully, Memphis will have positioned itself to get the invite to sit at the "Big Boy" table.
There is nothing that is being proposed that, prevents any FBS team from becoming a big-boy in football, being ranked every year, and being considered a major program on the national stage.

There are lots of teams in the P5s that have almost no chance of ever being big-boys in football, ever being ranked, and who know they are and will be W's for the top half of their Conference, and the top G5's.

In fact I would say a team like Memphis, in the best G5 Conference has a better chance than 60% of the P5's.

Some one or more teams in your conference are going to be ranked every year, and probably ranked pretty high. Same for MWC. The other three G5's will be hit and miss.

A big-boy by definition IS a P5 member. Financially each P5 member is light-years ahead of any non-P5 school. Sure Boise was ranked for several consecutive years but to what avail long term? Unless you are a member of the P5, as things are currently constructed, you are a relative nobody in FB financially. This is the primary motivation behind the P5 rules that require their members to play a P5 member from another P5 conference. It's to keep the revenue within the P5. And while Wake Forest, Indiana, Iowa St and Vanderbilt and some others will likely never contend for a conference title, they still reap the benefits as club members. On-the-field performance by certain G5 schools (along with certain other criteria) might get a few G5 schools a little more money in bowls & a fewer few might get in the club under unknown circumstances. But the field is pretty crowded considering the number of schools who are attempting to make themselves attractive if the chance comes. And unless Memphis make the commitment to an OCS like several contenders have done, I don't think on-field performance alone would get our university into the P5. So would I rather be Indiana with no chance for a conference title & lots of money as life-time club members or Memphis with an AAC title & relatively no money?
Sorry I did not know that was the meaning here.

Still, a few G5's are going to rise to the top and become fixtures in the top 25 and reap the rewards that come with winning, and there are still going to be a lot of rewards for G5's that win.

One thing for sure is their program will not be is 'invisible' to the fans, or media that follow college football across the country, and they will receive far more exposure than the low-hanging-fruit in the P5's.

Their fans will also be much, much happier than the fans of the low-hanging-fruit when fall rolls around each year.

Appreciate the encouragement but nothing will offset the disparity in program revenue regardless of how you spin it. Like I said, Boise had an impressive on-field performance run for a number of years & received substantial visibility & bowl revenues but to what avail long term? Compared to P5 conference TV revenues & the guaranteed major bowl revenue the P5 schools share, the G5 schools are competing for relative crumbs.
I'm not spinning anything I'm telling you what is in fact going to happen on the field, this year and every year going forward, in the real world. Has to happen, cannot not happen, the "system" will insure it happens.

For the really young, this is the same doomsday talk, that ushered in the BCS era, and the fact is football at the bottom of the BCS food chain got a lot better under the BCS than it did before the BCS. Go figure.

Not sure about it's effects on the AAC, but the SBC Commissioner just said the autonomy proposal, and the new playoffs will help their Conference, and the schools will make more money, and have more clout than under the previous regulatory structure and post-season format.

What does that poster here say THE FUTURE IS OURS, well he is right now go and make something of this opportunity, or don't.
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(07-24-2014 10:53 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  So B is right?
I guess opinions vary on this one.

My advise to Memphis fans is just win your conference championship, and see what happens. When you do that, and there is no reason to think you can't, you will be totally shocked, at what happens.

Unlike most G5's, there are a few AAC that if can do this often enough will probably not stay a G5. Think you are one of them.
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