(07-21-2014 04:23 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Got a blister today doing 6 miles. Same New Balance shoes as before but different socks. What a biatch!!

Try this stuff if it comes back in the same spot regularly.



I get a blister on the arch of my foot if I run over 11 miles. I don't know what it is about that magic 11 mile number but if I use that body glide stuff it never happens.

(07-22-2014 06:44 AM)JTiger Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 03:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 03:49 PM)Willie Becton Wrote:  I've done all my marathons in saucony
I've never heard of anyone switching shoes very often between training and race day.
Did I read that right? That this is what you're wanting to do?

either way... good luck to you.
When I finished my first, it was both the best and worst day of my life.

From what I have seen, it isn't terribly uncommon to alternate/use multiple shoes shoes during training.

Basically, my Cumulus are nearing the end of their shelf life and with about two and a half months until the marathon, I'm looking to buy a new pair. Instead of getting another pair of Cumulus (about 11.5 oz) I'm looking for something a little lighter/less clunky.

I really liked the feel of the Saucony Kinvara 5, but the low drop would be too much of a transition. I tried the Mizuno Wave Rider 17 and it was pretty nice. Good cushioning but a bit lighter. Just wondering if others had any recent experiences with lighter weight trainers that could hold up for a marathon distance.

It's not that uncommon for elite runners who are experienced and know their body. For the average age grouper it's fairly uncommon unless you are very experienced.

Changing shoes out is kind of asking for an injury.

The only time I change out shoes is trail running. For that I run in trail shoes with minimal support since you don't really need it on the trail.

If you have a shot at winning your age group I say give it a try to save the weight but if you are in the middle of the pack, it isn't worth the injury, IMHO.

Gotcha.

Bottom line is I am going to HAVE to get a new pair before the run regardless. The Cumulus (an older model I liked and bought three pair) is not going to make it for another 300+ miles of running that I have to get in before the marathon, so I'll be having to get a new shoe anyway. The other shoe I run in, the GT-2100 is a decent cushion shoe, but too clunky for extra long distances.

(07-22-2014 06:46 AM)JTiger Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 04:23 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Got a blister today doing 6 miles. Same New Balance shoes as before but different socks. What a biatch!!

Try this stuff if it comes back in the same spot regularly.



I get a blister on the arch of my foot if I run over 11 miles. I don't know what it is about that magic 11 mile number but if I use that body glide stuff it never happens.

Thanks! I'll pick that up tonight.

If I ever run 11 miles somebody better call 911. It was 102 in Fort Worth yesterday.

its good for your bleedin' nipples too

(07-21-2014 10:20 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I've heard good things but the general super cushioning of Hoka's can come at the expense of responsiveness. That and the $150 price tag.

I tried the Sayonara's but didn't think it was enough shoe for 26. I liked the Brooks Ravena, the Saucony Ride 7 and the Mizuno Wave Runner 17.

Ended up with the New Balance 890v3. I tried and liked the v4 and by most accounts they are very similar, but the v3 was a steal online. If I don't dig them when I get them I'll likely go with the Wave Rider.

My favorite shoe for short distances is the Kinvara 2. The weight and responsiveness is the best for any shoe I have had in the past. But after, say the 10k barrier, I gets a little tough on my forefoot. I should let you know I am more of a mid to forefoot runner. I have not had any other Kinvaras after v2, but in my experience with it, I would use it as a trainer and substitute a more cushioned shoe for longer runs.

The Mizuno Wave Runners I used were 13 in the past and I just bought 16. The 13 is what I used for longer runs. While it didn't have the responsiveness of the Kinvara, it wasn't exactly stiff and had enough padding where it didn't bother me on my longer runs. The longest I ran in them though is only a half marathon. I have no experience in full marathons, but I would be comfortable entering one with this shoe. I've only ran in the 1 twice (both times on a treadmill) but they seem on par with the 13. Fingers crossed.

The shoe I replaced with the Wave Runner 16 is the New Balance M890v3. I wasn't a big fan of that shoe. It seemed too roomy in the toebox as my little toes would slip the the edge of the shoe inserts and get blisters for any runs over a 5k. No matter how tight I made the shoe, that happened. I did like their responsiveness and their weight was light enough. One other thing I didn't like about them too much was the fact they seemed a little thin in the forefoot. Me being a forefoot striker, I could see myself having issues with them on longer runs. But on another note I have narrow feet. You might have a different experience than me.

All that said, every foot is different, every body's strides are different and how people strike the ground with their feet are different, so I would reiterate what JTiger said earlier. If you have any problems that persist, don't hesitate going to a place like Breakaway Athletics.

I did a marathon today in flip flops. I only missed ten minutes of the fifth episode of law n order. they were comfortable and balanced too.

(08-01-2014 05:11 PM)plaidtiger Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 10:20 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I've heard good things but the general super cushioning of Hoka's can come at the expense of responsiveness. That and the $150 price tag.

I tried the Sayonara's but didn't think it was enough shoe for 26. I liked the Brooks Ravena, the Saucony Ride 7 and the Mizuno Wave Runner 17.

Ended up with the New Balance 890v3. I tried and liked the v4 and by most accounts they are very similar, but the v3 was a steal online. If I don't dig them when I get them I'll likely go with the Wave Rider.

My favorite shoe for short distances is the Kinvara 2. The weight and responsiveness is the best for any shoe I have had in the past. But after, say the 10k barrier, I gets a little tough on my forefoot. I should let you know I am more of a mid to forefoot runner. I have not had any other Kinvaras after v2, but in my experience with it, I would use it as a trainer and substitute a more cushioned shoe for longer runs.

The Mizuno Wave Runners I used were 13 in the past and I just bought 16. The 13 is what I used for longer runs. While it didn't have the responsiveness of the Kinvara, it wasn't exactly stiff and had enough padding where it didn't bother me on my longer runs. The longest I ran in them though is only a half marathon. I have no experience in full marathons, but I would be comfortable entering one with this shoe. I've only ran in the 1 twice (both times on a treadmill) but they seem on par with the 13. Fingers crossed.

The shoe I replaced with the Wave Runner 16 is the New Balance M890v3. I wasn't a big fan of that shoe. It seemed too roomy in the toebox as my little toes would slip the the edge of the shoe inserts and get blisters for any runs over a 5k. No matter how tight I made the shoe, that happened. I did like their responsiveness and their weight was light enough. One other thing I didn't like about them too much was the fact they seemed a little thin in the forefoot. Me being a forefoot striker, I could see myself having issues with them on longer runs. But on another note I have narrow feet. You might have a different experience than me.

All that said, every foot is different, every body's strides are different and how people strike the ground with their feet are different, so I would reiterate what JTiger said earlier. If you have any problems that persist, don't hesitate going to a place like Breakaway Athletics.

Yeah. I returned the 890v3's--forefoot was a little thin feeling after a 5 mile run. Toebox a little tight. Really wanted to like them but I knew better than to convince myself that they would "get better."

I went to Fleet Feet--they were really helpful. I was planning on just pulling the trigger on the Wave Rider 17s but they are $115 and won't qualify for tax free--but Fleet Feet will pay the tax but not add any other discounts (I get 10% for MRTC). I might go by there tomorrow anyway to see if I can get both.

Ran 20 this today and felt pretty good.