(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

(07-18-2014 10:02 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:55 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

A question to the Houston fans, based on the fact that UH is coming off a strong season with the expectation of a solid season again this year that and a new stadium if you finished the season averaging 35,000 to 38,000 would that be seen as a success, failure, or about average and met the expectation?

I’m just curious because of the similarities of the profiles between Temple and UH (both urban universities in cities with a strong pro sports presence) I’d like to get an idea of what a realistic expectation of an attendance number should be.

the question is beat byu or not
beat byu, we'd probably sellout most if not all of our games
lose to byu and 35-38k would be amazing

IMHO attendance number is irrelevant. We just need to focus on selling more and more season tickets. Attendance is highly dependent on how the team is doing versus the real strength of the fanbase comes from how many STH have been sold. But just to play along, even with a loss to BYU i think we average about 34-35k

(07-18-2014 07:27 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

(07-18-2014 10:02 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:55 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

A question to the Houston fans, based on the fact that UH is coming off a strong season with the expectation of a solid season again this year that and a new stadium if you finished the season averaging 35,000 to 38,000 would that be seen as a success, failure, or about average and met the expectation?

I’m just curious because of the similarities of the profiles between Temple and UH (both urban universities in cities with a strong pro sports presence) I’d like to get an idea of what a realistic expectation of an attendance number should be.

the question is beat byu or not
beat byu, we'd probably sellout most if not all of our games
lose to byu and 35-38k would be amazing

IMHO attendance number is irrelevant. We just need to focus on selling more and more season tickets. Attendance is highly dependent on how the team is doing versus the real strength of the fanbase comes from how many STH have been sold. But just to play along, even with a loss to BYU i think we average about 34-35k

While the specific attendance number - details like sold versus butts in the seats and the like- is not very relevant, "attendance" certainly is. There is an extremely high correlation between the "power" of a football program and its attendance. It is not coincident that schools like Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, and USC average over 80k a game while AAC schools are 40k - 50k less than that.

With attendance, comes power.

(07-19-2014 04:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 07:27 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

(07-18-2014 10:02 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:55 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

A question to the Houston fans, based on the fact that UH is coming off a strong season with the expectation of a solid season again this year that and a new stadium if you finished the season averaging 35,000 to 38,000 would that be seen as a success, failure, or about average and met the expectation?

I’m just curious because of the similarities of the profiles between Temple and UH (both urban universities in cities with a strong pro sports presence) I’d like to get an idea of what a realistic expectation of an attendance number should be.

the question is beat byu or not
beat byu, we'd probably sellout most if not all of our games
lose to byu and 35-38k would be amazing

IMHO attendance number is irrelevant. We just need to focus on selling more and more season tickets. Attendance is highly dependent on how the team is doing versus the real strength of the fanbase comes from how many STH have been sold. But just to play along, even with a loss to BYU i think we average about 34-35k

While the specific attendance number - details like sold versus butts in the seats and the like- is not very relevant, "attendance" certainly is. There is an extremely high correlation between the "power" of a football program and its attendance. It is not coincident that schools like Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, and USC average over 80k a game while AAC schools are 40k - 50k less than that.

With attendance, comes power.

Read my post again

(07-19-2014 06:39 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 04:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 07:27 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

(07-18-2014 10:02 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:55 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  A question to the Houston fans, based on the fact that UH is coming off a strong season with the expectation of a solid season again this year that and a new stadium if you finished the season averaging 35,000 to 38,000 would that be seen as a success, failure, or about average and met the expectation?

I’m just curious because of the similarities of the profiles between Temple and UH (both urban universities in cities with a strong pro sports presence) I’d like to get an idea of what a realistic expectation of an attendance number should be.

the question is beat byu or not
beat byu, we'd probably sellout most if not all of our games
lose to byu and 35-38k would be amazing

IMHO attendance number is irrelevant. We just need to focus on selling more and more season tickets. Attendance is highly dependent on how the team is doing versus the real strength of the fanbase comes from how many STH have been sold. But just to play along, even with a loss to BYU i think we average about 34-35k

While the specific attendance number - details like sold versus butts in the seats and the like- is not very relevant, "attendance" certainly is. There is an extremely high correlation between the "power" of a football program and its attendance. It is not coincident that schools like Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, and USC average over 80k a game while AAC schools are 40k - 50k less than that.

With attendance, comes power.

Read my post again

No thanks, once was obviously enough.

(07-19-2014 05:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 06:39 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 04:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 07:27 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 09:06 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  It will be very interesting to see what kind of attendance numbers Houston can pull this year. 35K is my rough guess.

(07-18-2014 10:02 AM)pesik Wrote:  the question is beat byu or not
beat byu, we'd probably sellout most if not all of our games
lose to byu and 35-38k would be amazing

IMHO attendance number is irrelevant. We just need to focus on selling more and more season tickets. Attendance is highly dependent on how the team is doing versus the real strength of the fanbase comes from how many STH have been sold. But just to play along, even with a loss to BYU i think we average about 34-35k

While the specific attendance number - details like sold versus butts in the seats and the like- is not very relevant, "attendance" certainly is. There is an extremely high correlation between the "power" of a football program and its attendance. It is not coincident that schools like Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, and USC average over 80k a game while AAC schools are 40k - 50k less than that.

With attendance, comes power.

Read my post again

No thanks, once was obviously enough.

Well, not my problem you continue to post without reading or simply have an inability to read.

Hopefully with Houston and Tulane stadiums in place that will jump to over 30k. If Usf improves I am sure their attendance will jump up. If Mwc stayed close to flat, and AAC could get close to 31k it would look better.

(07-17-2014 08:00 AM)piratefan1975 Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 06:52 AM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 06:47 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 08:58 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  The MAC is the biggest embarrassment in the FBS.

Yet we're much closer to the MAC (delta of 13K) than the ACC (delta of 21k). That should pretty much sum it all up for the folks that can't understand why we aren't considered a "Power Conference" and think we got screwed on our TV deal.

I thought attendance did not matter; TV market size was so much more important atleast that was what everyone was say'in a couple of years ago during realignment.

It didn't matter to Marinatto and the Big East. They had every opportunity to grab ECU; a school that would have come in an immediately lead the league in attendance, and they snubbed their noses at us. Marinatto and the league presidents at the time were trying to put together a made-for-TV-conference. See, with TV, the cameras never have to show the empty stadiums. Attendance problems can be masked to a certain degree. To the Big East, you didn't need people at the games, didn't even need people actually watching the games on TV; you just needed to be in big markets. That didn't work out too well.

I argued through a rather long thread, that the correlation between attendance averages and TV revenues was a pretty strong one.

Yes, the Big East didn't want you. Deal with it.

(07-19-2014 04:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  ....there is an extremely high correlation between the "power" of a football program and its attendance. It is not coincident that schools like Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, and USC average over 80k a game while AAC schools are 40k - 50k less than that.

All of that is pretty much true, but:

(1) There are notable exceptions to the correlation between attendance and power. Kentucky and Arizona State are two examples of schools with above-average "P-5" attendance without a great deal of success to show for it. On the other hand, during the 80's when Miami had one of the most dominating dynasties in history, they only averaged about 45,000. With just a modicum of winning, Memphis will be doing that soon.

(2) Stadiums can only be built so big due to physical and financial limitations. I predict that the AAC's average attendance will steadily increase at a remarkable pace in the future.

(3) One of the important things is for our stadiums to look full and lively on TV. I see that as an achievable goal for the not-so-distant future.

(07-18-2014 09:04 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 08:44 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 06:58 AM)virgosports Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 08:14 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  These are the numbers using Conference 2014 make up plus Navy in AAC

1. SEC 100 home games, 7,567,406 total attendance, AVG=75,674
2. BigTen 101 home games, 7,742,318, AVG= 66,756
3. BigTwelve 66 home games, 3,887,362, AVG=58,899
4. PAC 80 home games, 4,289,553,AVG= 53,619
5. ACC 97 home games, 4,929,715, AVG= 50,821
6. American 74 home games, 2,174,731, AVG= 29,388
7. MWC 75 home games, 1,955,955, AVG= 26,080
8. CUSA 72 home games, 1,456,162, AVG= 20,224
9. SBC 64 home games, 1,196,425, AVG= 18,694
10. MAC 74 home games, 1,238,425, AVG= 16,739

I don't understand the b10 avg. it had almost 200,000 more fans and 1 more game then the SEC so the average should be higher. I assume the average is closer to 76k instead of 66k?

I may have missed it, but I didn't see anyone respond to this, but you're exactly right. When you do the math, the Big 10/B1G is off by exactly 10K. The math is just incorrect., or the total attendance is off.

Not a big deal, we're still a long, long way from those numbers.

I corrected it. It was a typo in original post. Big Ten had 6 million not 7 million

Apologies. I did miss it.

I have always said it wouldn't be a bad move for the ACC to double down in Florida with UCF/USF.

I see ECU having a better chance at getting into the ACC if they go to 60k and the ACC lost UNC and Duke. At that point the ACC would be singing a different tune about ECU, IMO.

The B12 I see targeting Cincinnati since its in the Midwest

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(07-21-2014 12:29 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  I have always said it wouldn't be a bad move for the ACC to double down in Florida with UCF/USF.

I see ECU having a better chance at getting into the ACC if they go to 60k and the ACC lost UNC and Duke. At that point the ACC would be singing a different tune about ECU, IMO.

If the ACC lost UNC and Duke, anything related to ECU would be the least of its concerns.

(07-19-2014 06:14 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 05:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 06:39 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 04:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 07:27 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  IMHO attendance number is irrelevant. We just need to focus on selling more and more season tickets. Attendance is highly dependent on how the team is doing versus the real strength of the fanbase comes from how many STH have been sold. But just to play along, even with a loss to BYU i think we average about 34-35k

While the specific attendance number - details like sold versus butts in the seats and the like- is not very relevant, "attendance" certainly is. There is an extremely high correlation between the "power" of a football program and its attendance. It is not coincident that schools like Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, and USC average over 80k a game while AAC schools are 40k - 50k less than that.

With attendance, comes power.

Read my post again

No thanks, once was obviously enough.

Well, not my problem you continue to post without reading or simply have an inability to read.

It is your problem that you don't know what you're talking about.