And this guy likes Obama.

Quote:A prominent law professor and avowed supporter of the Obama White House will tell the House on Wednesday that the president has created one of the biggest constitutional crises in the country’s history and will endorse House Republicans’ effort to sue to rein him in.

Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University, will say President Obama is trampling the founders’ vision for the country in his push to circumvent Congress, and he will demand Republicans and Democrats alike forget their party labels to unify against this White House’s power grab.

“What we are witnessing today is one of the greatest challenges to our constitutional system in the history of this country,” Mr. Turley said in a prepared testimony, saying it began with previous presidents but under Mr. Obama has “reached a constitutional tipping point that threatens a fundamental change in how our country is governed.”

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If only we had some Republicans on Capitol Hill to call him on it and stop this madness

Obama is even past getting relief from the courts. Suing him is not going to provide relief soon enough. Look how long this NLRB suit has languished on. The House needs to start defunding things.

Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

(07-16-2014 06:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

Who was worse? Lincoln?

(07-16-2014 06:57 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

Who was worse? Lincoln?

FDR, Wilson, Adams, you can throw Lincoln in there.

My point is that if we want to get through to folks you have to do so with straight talk and honesty, not hyperbole and emotion.

(07-16-2014 07:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:57 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

Who was worse? Lincoln?

FDR, Wilson, Adams, you can throw Lincoln in there.

My point is that if we want to get through to folks you have to do so with straight talk and honesty, not hyperbole and emotion.

So really, no other president in our lifetime has been this egregious.

Every president since the constitution has been a threat to it.

(07-16-2014 07:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:57 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

Who was worse? Lincoln?

FDR, Wilson, Adams, you can throw Lincoln in there.

My point is that if we want to get through to folks you have to do so with straight talk and honesty, not hyperbole and emotion.

We live in the hear and now, not in the Lincoln era.

(07-16-2014 07:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:57 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

Who was worse? Lincoln?

FDR, Wilson, Adams, you can throw Lincoln in there.

My point is that if we want to get through to folks you have to do so with straight talk and honesty, not hyperbole and emotion.

Your point should be that no matter how many presidents have done it, it is no less a violation. That's honesty.

(07-16-2014 07:06 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 07:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:57 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

Who was worse? Lincoln?

FDR, Wilson, Adams, you can throw Lincoln in there.

My point is that if we want to get through to folks you have to do so with straight talk and honesty, not hyperbole and emotion.

So really, no other president in our lifetime has been this egregious.

Which might be relevant if the author of the original comment hadn't said of all time.

You're just arguing for arguing's sake. You don't even know where you're going with it.

(07-17-2014 02:31 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 07:06 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 07:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:57 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 06:56 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Hyperbole much?

It's a power grab, sure, and one that needs to be reigned in, but the worst in history? No.

Who was worse? Lincoln?

FDR, Wilson, Adams, you can throw Lincoln in there.

My point is that if we want to get through to folks you have to do so with straight talk and honesty, not hyperbole and emotion.

So really, no other president in our lifetime has been this egregious.

Which might be relevant if the author of the original comment hadn't said of all time.

You're just arguing for arguing's sake. You don't even know where you're going with it.

No argument, but catch up.

Your point should be that no matter how many presidents have done it, it is no less a violation. That's honesty.

SumofAll Fears hits the nail on the head-

Regarless of whether any past president has violated the constitution, it still does not give this president a free pass to whatever he wants. That is the excuse children makes when caught with their hand in the cookie jar, "Well Timmy did it first".

What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.

(07-16-2014 04:20 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is even past getting relief from the courts. Suing him is not going to provide relief soon enough. Look how long this NLRB suit has languished on. The House needs to start defunding things.

They pulled $1.1Billion from the IRS budget. A drop in the bucket I'd wager but it's a start.

(07-17-2014 07:36 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(07-16-2014 04:20 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Obama is even past getting relief from the courts. Suing him is not going to provide relief soon enough. Look how long this NLRB suit has languished on. The House needs to start defunding things.

They pulled $1.1Billion from the IRS budget. A drop in the bucket I'd wager but it's a start.

Drastic times call for drastic measures. I am reminded of a moment in time when Obama in the SOTU, told congress he was prepared to, at his whim, rewrite laws and go it alone. The democrats got up and cheered their own irrelevance.