(07-15-2014 09:26 PM)smn1256 Wrote: F**k with the bull and you get the horns. The Palestinians can't have it both ways where they shoot rockets into Israel and then want to cry foul when Israel fires back.
I agree. There is no such thing as a "proportional response"
Hamas Caught Using Horror Movie Still To Depict Girl Killed By An Israeli Airstrike…
Propaganda fail. As bad as Mach would want this to be true, sorry, just propaganda.
Quote:As Hamas supporters are being called out on Twitter for posting photos of Syrian casualties from 2012 as victims of the Israeli Army in Gaza in 2014, Israel advocacy group StandWithUs on Tuesday posted a clip from Hollywood horror flick ‘The Final Destination 4′ that was used to create another fake that circulated widely on Facebook falsely depicting Israel killing civilians.
StandWithUs created a short clip of the scene from the movie to show how it was transposed into a screenshot used for Hamas propaganda.
Quote:DIME bombs contain tungsten, a cancer-causing metal that helps to produce incredibly destructive blasts which slice through flesh and bone, often decapitating the lower limbs of people within the blast radius.
didnt read the thread, just wanted to laugh at this.
lead can cause cancer too, and what the **** else is supposed to happen to people in the blast radius of a bomb?
(07-16-2014 09:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: How do you on one hand put out a population density of 13,000 per sq mile then in the next hand criticize Hamas for storing munitions near civil populations? Square that for me boys.
The solution will not be found in the barrel of a gun.
OK. It's an average population density. It doesn't mean that every square mile has 13,000 people.
Take a look at Gaza on Google Earth. There is open desert and farm land. If the Palestinians wanted to hide munitions away from the population, they'd find places.
(07-16-2014 08:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote: Wait a minute... Lets get down to the REAL point here... Why is it that most liberals, if not all, hate Israel? They're our f*cking ally, and one we absolutely need. Damn, that'll tell you just how far down the shitbagdicksuckingpotofflamingfaggywhisperfarts we've fallen...
Ally or enemy is not relevant. Israel symbolizes the belief in one supreme God. That is what Liberals hate. Their belief system requires man to be the supreme being.
(07-16-2014 08:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote: Wait a minute... Lets get down to the REAL point here... Why is it that most liberals, if not all, hate Israel? They're our f*cking ally, and one we absolutely need. Damn, that'll tell you just how far down the shitbagdicksuckingpotofflamingfaggywhisperfarts we've fallen...
Ally or enemy is not relevant. Israel symbolizes the belief in one supreme God. That is what Liberals hate. Their belief system requires man to be the supreme being.
No it's not that because Islam has the same idea of one supreme God... They view Isreal as a western Judeo Christian type nation and *THATS* what gets their panties in a twist.
(07-16-2014 08:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote: Wait a minute... Lets get down to the REAL point here... Why is it that most liberals, if not all, hate Israel? They're our f*cking ally, and one we absolutely need. Damn, that'll tell you just how far down the shitbagdicksuckingpotofflamingfaggywhisperfarts we've fallen...
Ally or enemy is not relevant. Israel symbolizes the belief in one supreme God. That is what Liberals hate. Their belief system requires man to be the supreme being.
No it's not that because Islam has the same idea of one supreme God... They view Isreal as a western Judeo Christian type nation and *THATS* what gets their panties in a twist.
That's an acceptable argument. But remeber, there was no resistance from the left on attacking Muslims in the beginning. China and Russia have no problems attacking them. The left here doesn't either. They are just opportunists.
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(07-16-2014 09:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: How do you on one hand put out a population density of 13,000 per sq mile then in the next hand criticize Hamas for storing munitions near civil populations? Square that for me boys.
The solution will not be found in the barrel of a gun.
How about not storing and stockpiling ordinance where women and children are.
If you are warned beforehand, "GET AWAY THERE IS EXPLOSIVES HERE AND WE PLAN TO DETONATE IT. GET AWAY NOW, DO NOT DELAY", and you do not heed the warning, all you can say is war is hell. Good-bye. You cannot call that targeting. sorry. weak for even you.
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(07-16-2014 06:57 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: No I do not hate Israelis. It's a statement from the mind if a child. You can disagree with the actions of a govt. without condemning it's people as a whole. They shouldn't be using these sorts of weapons on a civilian population center. No ifs ands or buts. How many Israelis have died from the Hamas rockets? Btw I do not condone their actions either and I would say the same things if 34 Israeli children have been killed with these DIME weapons. I want nothing to do with these people. It reminds me of a wise saying. Choose your enemies carefully for you will become them.
Who's placing the Palestinian children in danger? The Israeli's or the kids own parents or neighbors?
Answer that one honestly and you have your solution as well.
(07-16-2014 07:13 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: One of Kyras Dr.'s was born in Isreal and has a dual citizenship. We've spent many nights going over these scenarios. They have a considerable faction if doves in Isreal too but when Hamas pulls the crap they do it only emboldens and strengthens the hawks. The Palestinuans should study MLK.
You have highlighted the basic problem. Doves on the Palestinian side are either silent or non-existent.
You are correct that if the Palestinians want peace, they should emulate MLK, Ghandi, et al. The basic, fundamental problem with pursuing that line of logic is that they don't want peace. The voices that matter will sacrifice blood and bodies for decade after decade, not for land, but just for the appearance of trying to get land, and not just any land, the land that dogma dictates that they must pursue.
(07-16-2014 11:15 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: As long as you kill children in air strikes there will be more fresh suicide bombers and rocket attacks.
The fact is that there will be fresh suicide bombers and rocket attacks regardless of whether Israel struck at all. This will likely end with a ground invasion helping to rid Gaza of munitions. In 2009, the ground invasion was unable to stop rocket attacks, but it did reduce them significantly. It will be a combination of Israel destroying weapons and Hamas running out of ammunition to bring an end to this.
(07-16-2014 11:15 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: As long as you kill children in air strikes there will be more fresh suicide bombers and rocket attacks.
That seems to be the meme but I really doubt it. The Islamists don't need no excuses. If Israel never conducted another air strike nor shot another bullet, the suicide bombers and rockets would continue.
This reminds me of a story from when I lived in California. It's seems a burglar ignored the "Beware of Dog" sign a homeowner had attached to his fence. Intending to rob the house he jumps the fence and the dog tears his ass up. He later tried to sue the homeowner because he didn't think the dog would be so vicious. If he doesn't jump the fence he never finds out how mean the dog is.
(07-16-2014 08:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote: Wait a minute... Lets get down to the REAL point here... Why is it that most liberals, if not all, hate Israel? They're our f*cking ally, and one we absolutely need. Damn, that'll tell you just how far down the shitbagdicksuckingpotofflamingfaggywhisperfarts we've fallen...
LSU, look up the USS Liberty and the theories about what happened to that ship, and then you'd understand why a lot of people believe their in the right in regards to their animosity toward Israel.
It has nothing to do with being anti-semite or anti-jewish. A lot of the hatred goes back to that story.
(07-16-2014 08:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote: Wait a minute... Lets get down to the REAL point here... Why is it that most liberals, if not all, hate Israel? They're our f*cking ally, and one we absolutely need. Damn, that'll tell you just how far down the shitbagdicksuckingpotofflamingfaggywhisperfarts we've fallen...
LSU, look up the USS Liberty and the theories about what happened to that ship, and then you'd understand why a lot of people believe their in the right in regards to their animosity toward Israel.
It has nothing to do with being anti-semite or anti-jewish. A lot of the hatred goes back to that story.
hatred of the jews didn't begin in 1967.
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(07-16-2014 08:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote: Wait a minute... Lets get down to the REAL point here... Why is it that most liberals, if not all, hate Israel? They're our f*cking ally, and one we absolutely need. Damn, that'll tell you just how far down the shitbagdicksuckingpotofflamingfaggywhisperfarts we've fallen...
LSU, look up the USS Liberty and the theories about what happened to that ship, and then you'd understand why a lot of people believe their in the right in regards to their animosity toward Israel.
It has nothing to do with being anti-semite or anti-jewish. A lot of the hatred goes back to that story.
Israel apologized for the attack and paid more than $13 million in 1968 dollars. It was a mistake.
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Evidence of Israel targeting civilians.
