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RE: World Cup - Escape from Reality aka "Bread and Circuses"
Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao
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(07-14-2014 02:35 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 11:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Here are the main reasons soccer will never become mainstream in America

1) The vast majority of Americans simply view soccer as too 'foreign'. Football is the number one sport followed by the great American pastime of baseball and the passion of basketball. These three sports somehow bring forth national and regional pride that cannot be captured by Soccer. There is no feeling of 'closeness' to the teams or the entire idea. In America people are fiercely loyal to their local teams. They display this on their cars and their clothing. It is not only as source of pride in the sport but also in where you are from and who you are.

2) For the vast majority of Americans Soccer is simply boring. There is no blood and guts in the sport. It does not have the intensity of football or even baseball. It does not have the extremes of Basketball. It is just flat out boring to watch. Yes, as children we like to play it but certainly don't want to actually watch it unless our kids are playing the sport. Then we are forced to be in the audience but to spend an entire Sunday watching Soccer is just not in the DNA of most Americans who crave a harder sport with more excitement.

3) Even the scoring of Soccer is boring. Many Americans just shake their head over the whole score concept of Soccer and force out a yawn when asked.

4) There is simply no strategy in Soccer. It is no where near as strategic as football.

5) We are not surrounded by nations that are our adversaries. No other nation is our equal, therefore, global rivalries are not as important to us as they are to less powerful nations.

I can see your reasoning in most of those. I used to feel the same way, but that was mainly because I knew zero about soccer.

Soccer seems too "foreign" mainly because we have sucked at if for so long. If we were great, pretty sure the "foreign" stuff wouldn't matter.

No blood and guts? Did you see the German and Argentine players damn near get knocked out during the match? Also, Messi was throwing up on the field during the first half.

There's plenty of strategy in soccer. I imagine Germany spent all week coming up with a strategy to stop Messi. Again, it reminds me of baseball, another sport lots of folks consider boring. IMO, that's because said folks don't realize all the strategy going on throughout the baseball game. Same with soccer.

Mexico/US has become quite a heated rilvary. Apparently Landon Donavan urinated on the Mexican's field one day.

Also, as far as strategy is concerned, the United States is a good example. Klinsmann planned the World Cup around the 4-4-2 Diamond midfield. Jozy tore a muscle and ruined that strategy.

You don't just roll a ball out and do whatever.
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(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao

I don't think I've ever cried because of a loss, but I have cried after wins.
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(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:15 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  I'd like replays, then the referees could enforce no diving with correct decisions and yellow cards, that would put an end to it pretty quickly.

You wouldn't need replays. Just give a game ban after watching it between games.

I'm a fan of replays anyway, wrongly given penalties have changed the results of games for example.
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(07-14-2014 03:32 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:15 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  I'd like replays, then the referees could enforce no diving with correct decisions and yellow cards, that would put an end to it pretty quickly.

You wouldn't need replays. Just give a game ban after watching it between games.

I'm a fan of replays anyway, wrongly given penalties have changed the results of games for example.

I can see that, but it can't be one of those stop gameplay for 10 minutes replays. Have an official up top, give them 30 seconds to watch (like rugby) and then make the decision.

Too many replays will take one of the things away that make soccer attractive to me: brevity.
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(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao

Americans really don't experience the atmosphere of competing for country the way other nations do. We have the Olympics, but that's every four years and a lot of it is individual, not team. I think that's one reason why the Ryder Cup teams underperform, it's totally foreign to them.

Of our big three sports, nobody competes with us in American football and in the other two our domestic championships (World Series, NBA Finals, March Madness, even CWS) are bigger than any international championship. We don't really have anything like European soccer or rugby, where you club will be competing simultaneously for league, cup, and European championships.

As an Aussie friend once said to me, "You Yanks are world champions in every sport that nobody but you play."
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(07-14-2014 03:36 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:32 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:15 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  I'd like replays, then the referees could enforce no diving with correct decisions and yellow cards, that would put an end to it pretty quickly.

You wouldn't need replays. Just give a game ban after watching it between games.

I'm a fan of replays anyway, wrongly given penalties have changed the results of games for example.

I can see that, but it can't be one of those stop gameplay for 10 minutes replays. Have an official up top, give them 30 seconds to watch (like rugby) and then make the decision.

Too many replays will take one of the things away that make soccer attractive to me: brevity.

I agree, but a flop would be easy to recognize via replay in just a couple of seconds. If it's determined a player flopped give him a yellow card, etc.
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(07-14-2014 02:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 02:39 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Soccer should change the offside rule. Don't let people blatantly goal poach but don't break up "fast breaks." Maybe we'd see more 5-4 scores as opposed to 0-0 ties.

Wouldn't work. You'd have teams playing even more conservatively to prevent a fast break.

I still say there would be more goals. I saw way too many situations in the WC where a striker was mere feet ahead of the last defensive line and ready to score only for it to be called off by an offsides, including yesterday during the finals.
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(07-14-2014 02:48 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 02:39 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Soccer should change the offside rule. Don't let people blatantly goal poach but don't break up "fast breaks." Maybe we'd see more 5-4 scores as opposed to 0-0 ties.

Wouldn't work. You'd have teams playing even more conservatively to prevent a fast break.

The problem is the rule is if the linesman is unsure, then the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacking team, but the reality linesman do the opposite, because they dont want to be the one that lets in an offside goal count.
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(07-14-2014 11:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Man...I am glad it's over. I could not help but giggle at fans crying in the stands after the game. I hope to hell I never get so fcking tied up in any sport that I cry like a girl after the team I support loses. Fcking embarrassing.01-wingedeagle

You know, I kinda agree with the crying about a game thing. But in my younger years I would criticize those guys that were at the Viet Nam Memorial that were sobbing their eyes out. I would always say, "it's a freaking wall, for pete's sake." They were seeing the wastefulness of so many good kids dying in a war that congress would not ever let us win.

Well, my wife and I visited the mini-Memorial in Denver when it traveled there. I don't know what took hold of me because I became one of those crying your eyes out VN vet. I still today can't explain what happened. As soon as I entered the area I was overcome with so much sadness that it had to come out of my body, I was a blubbering mass of humanity. Maybe it was the fact that I had 4 classmates whose names were on the wall and I knew everyone of them well. But, I didn't know the rest and yet I also cried for them. It was odd.
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(07-14-2014 03:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao

Americans really don't experience the atmosphere of competing for country the way other nations do. We have the Olympics, but that's every four years and a lot of it is individual, not team. I think that's one reason why the Ryder Cup teams underperform, it's totally foreign to them.

Of our big three sports, nobody competes with us in American football and in the other two our domestic championships (World Series, NBA Finals, March Madness, even CWS) are bigger than any international championship. We don't really have anything like European soccer or rugby, where you club will be competing simultaneously for league, cup, and European championships.

As an Aussie friend once said to me, "You Yanks are world champions in every sport that nobody but you play."

Actually MLS teams play for several cups outside of the MLS. But at the same time, there so poorly advertised that most people don't know about it. I didn't find out bout em till about a few weeks ago doing research for a blog.
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(07-14-2014 05:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao

Americans really don't experience the atmosphere of competing for country the way other nations do. We have the Olympics, but that's every four years and a lot of it is individual, not team. I think that's one reason why the Ryder Cup teams underperform, it's totally foreign to them.

Of our big three sports, nobody competes with us in American football and in the other two our domestic championships (World Series, NBA Finals, March Madness, even CWS) are bigger than any international championship. We don't really have anything like European soccer or rugby, where you club will be competing simultaneously for league, cup, and European championships.

As an Aussie friend once said to me, "You Yanks are world champions in every sport that nobody but you play."

Actually MLS teams play for several cups outside of the MLS. But at the same time, there so poorly advertised that most people don't know about it. I didn't find out bout em till about a few weeks ago doing research for a blog.

Yeah, there's MLS, Open Cup, and CONCACAF Champions League. It would be a lot more marketable if it isn't broadcast by beIn. A US team standing a chance would also be pretty good. Right now Mexican clubs are the best in North America.

Another thing that would help is a Canada side that is worth a sh*t. They're way less into soccer than we are though.
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(07-14-2014 12:20 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 12:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 12:03 PM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 11:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 10:41 AM)ODUgradstudent Wrote:  The London Olympics made a profit.

Not if you include the costs of converting the Olympic stadium to a football venue. That costs 90 million pounds. The games "profit" was 52 million pounds. There was a lot of 'creative' accounting going on there. London was well run, but it wasn't profitable.

I can put things in quotation marks and inverted commas to deny the facts too, but I don't. The games made money (even if only a trivial amount) and regenerated a huge area of London as well as garnering investment for school sports programs. Britain is better of for having had London host the Olympics. Totally worth it. Is Russia better off for having had Sochi, is Brazil better off for having had the World Cup? I'd say no.

Yea, but if the profit was 52 million pounds and then the government outside of that calculation spent 90 million pounds to convert a stadium for soccer and then hand it off to a low end EPL team then how is this a profitable venture. That's just one example of how the Accounting of the London Games was wacky.

The government (or rather the London Legacy Development Corporation which is part of the London Government) own the stadium. They're charging rent to West Ham (2m per year for a 99 year lease), they're going to host athletic events (2017 Athletics World Championships), it will host games for the Rugby World Cup in 2016. The stadium now is an enterprise which will make money, whether or not you count it as part of the cost of the Olympics, you cannot consider the 90m in isolation without including the money that will be made from the stadium upgrades in years to come.

I understand a large portion of land that was the Olympic Park in London is still being developed and is for sale. I presume the disassembled Basketball Arena is also still available for 2.5 Million GBP.
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(07-14-2014 05:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao

Americans really don't experience the atmosphere of competing for country the way other nations do. We have the Olympics, but that's every four years and a lot of it is individual, not team. I think that's one reason why the Ryder Cup teams underperform, it's totally foreign to them.

Of our big three sports, nobody competes with us in American football and in the other two our domestic championships (World Series, NBA Finals, March Madness, even CWS) are bigger than any international championship. We don't really have anything like European soccer or rugby, where you club will be competing simultaneously for league, cup, and European championships.

As an Aussie friend once said to me, "You Yanks are world champions in every sport that nobody but you play."

Actually MLS teams play for several cups outside of the MLS. But at the same time, there so poorly advertised that most people don't know about it. I didn't find out bout em till about a few weeks ago doing research for a blog.

Yep, Seattle and Portland drew over 60k for an MLS game, but only drew less than 5k for the QF of the Open Cup. Its a shame, I believe its the oldest continious run cup competition outside of the united kingdom, but it treated like some third rate rec league competition
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(07-14-2014 08:53 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 05:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao

Americans really don't experience the atmosphere of competing for country the way other nations do. We have the Olympics, but that's every four years and a lot of it is individual, not team. I think that's one reason why the Ryder Cup teams underperform, it's totally foreign to them.

Of our big three sports, nobody competes with us in American football and in the other two our domestic championships (World Series, NBA Finals, March Madness, even CWS) are bigger than any international championship. We don't really have anything like European soccer or rugby, where you club will be competing simultaneously for league, cup, and European championships.

As an Aussie friend once said to me, "You Yanks are world champions in every sport that nobody but you play."

Actually MLS teams play for several cups outside of the MLS. But at the same time, there so poorly advertised that most people don't know about it. I didn't find out bout em till about a few weeks ago doing research for a blog.

Yep, Seattle and Portland drew over 60k for an MLS game, but only drew less than 5k for the QF of the Open Cup. Its a shame, I believe its the oldest continious run cup competition outside of the united kingdom, but it treated like some third rate rec league competition

Yeah. I think it would be better to have a series of regional/state cups to qualify for the Open Cup.

For example, in NC there are the Railhawks, Gate City FC, Eagles, Dynamo and Hammerheads on a professional level. If we were to let SC in that would add the Battery. I say let them compete for a state cup against grassroots "town teams" and colleges (the FA Cup allows it provided they stay in the top 8 divisions). I think this would get people interested in the sport at a grassroots level.
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(07-14-2014 02:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If I were to change one rule, I'd stop the grabbing and holding. Of course, that's against the rules (supposedly). But that's not the way they enforce it. There's way too much grabbing and shoving going on. And if you got rid of it, the scoring would take care of itself.

The pitch is simply too big. Too much time is spent chasing down the fcking ball. We forget that lots of NFL games end 1-0 or 2-1. We just jacked up the points. A smaller field would increase scoring like it does in indoor soccer.
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(07-14-2014 05:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 03:21 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Even I was in shock seeing grown men and women crying after their country lost. The closest I came to crying, after a sporting event, was after the Steelers lost to the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and I was like 13. It just struck me odd seeing hordes of people crying. I may be pissed TF off, but after 10-15 minutes, after a loss, I get over it and ramble on this particular sports message board. 03-lmfao
Americans really don't experience the atmosphere of competing for country the way other nations do. We have the Olympics, but that's every four years and a lot of it is individual, not team. I think that's one reason why the Ryder Cup teams underperform, it's totally foreign to them.
Of our big three sports, nobody competes with us in American football and in the other two our domestic championships (World Series, NBA Finals, March Madness, even CWS) are bigger than any international championship. We don't really have anything like European soccer or rugby, where you club will be competing simultaneously for league, cup, and European championships.
As an Aussie friend once said to me, "You Yanks are world champions in every sport that nobody but you play."
Actually MLS teams play for several cups outside of the MLS. But at the same time, there so poorly advertised that most people don't know about it. I didn't find out bout em till about a few weeks ago doing research for a blog.

Yes, I am aware, and as a Dynamo season ticket holder have attended a few of those matches. But as you note, they don't have the same impact as UEFA Cup competitions.

I once heard Nelson Mandela say that the ire of the world and trade restrictions and other government actions failed to stop Apartheid, but when New Zealand stopped playing South Africa in rugby, that brought about the end of it. There's a reasonable amount of history that says that's true, and although there were some reasons peculiar to the situation, it still gives an idea how important international sporting competition can be. Having attended many international sporting events over the years, I can truly say we miss out on something there.
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(07-15-2014 05:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 02:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If I were to change one rule, I'd stop the grabbing and holding. Of course, that's against the rules (supposedly). But that's not the way they enforce it. There's way too much grabbing and shoving going on. And if you got rid of it, the scoring would take care of itself.

The pitch is simply too big. Too much time is spent chasing down the fcking ball. We forget that lots of NFL games end 1-0 or 2-1. We just jacked up the points. A smaller field would increase scoring like it does in indoor soccer.

That's a gross exaggeration. How many college or pro games end 7-0 or 10-7/14-7 according to your analogy? Not many. More often than not, both teams score at least three times.
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(07-15-2014 07:32 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(07-15-2014 05:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 02:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If I were to change one rule, I'd stop the grabbing and holding. Of course, that's against the rules (supposedly). But that's not the way they enforce it. There's way too much grabbing and shoving going on. And if you got rid of it, the scoring would take care of itself.

The pitch is simply too big. Too much time is spent chasing down the fcking ball. We forget that lots of NFL games end 1-0 or 2-1. We just jacked up the points. A smaller field would increase scoring like it does in indoor soccer.

That's a gross exaggeration. How college or pro games end 7-0 or 10-7/14-7 according to your analogy? Not many. More often than not, both teams score at least three times.

Actually fewer players or a bigger pitch would open up play even more. Look at what happens in rugby when you go from 15s to 7s. Indoor soccer has more scoring because there are fewer players on a side.

I still think cracking down on the grabbing and holding would be the best way to open it up.
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RE: World Cup - Escape from Reality aka "Bread and Circuses"
(07-15-2014 05:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 02:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If I were to change one rule, I'd stop the grabbing and holding. Of course, that's against the rules (supposedly). But that's not the way they enforce it. There's way too much grabbing and shoving going on. And if you got rid of it, the scoring would take care of itself.

The pitch is simply too big. Too much time is spent chasing down the fcking ball. We forget that lots of NFL games end 1-0 or 2-1. We just jacked up the points. A smaller field would increase scoring like it does in indoor soccer.

Yeah, I bet if we made soccer goals worth 7 points instead of 1 point folks would feel different even though it would be the exact same thing. People freak out over a 1-0 soccer game but think nothing of a 7-0 football game.
07-15-2014 08:14 AM
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