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No Longer the Smallest
According to the TW, TU has a new enrollment number of 4,597 (3,428 undergrads). So that means TU is no longer the smallest DI football playing school in america. As a matter of fact, we won't even be the smallest school in the AAC come next year when Navy enters. Army, Navy and the AF Acad. all have set enrollments of 4,500 as I understand it. TU is beginning once again to grow numerically and IMO is a very good thing.

In years to come, I see the campus and enrollment growing even larger. Physically, we should grow westward toward Lewis. Right now we have a 230 acre campus (wikipedia) and there is a very good possiblility we could exceed 300 acres by 2025 IMO. At that point, enrollment should be at the same point it was in the late 1960'/early 70's, about 7,000.

TU's enrollment over the last few years has increased about 400 students from a low of less than 4,100.
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07-13-2014 03:00 PM
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From what I understand, TU is being very purposeful about growth of enrollment. I believe they laid out a 10 year plan if I recall correctly.

They're doing so much on campus as we speak - new dorm being built, new food court, new book store and a few other things.

If anyone hasn't been to campus in the past 6-7 years, they wouldn't even recognize it now - it looks great!

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(07-14-2014 09:56 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  From what I understand, TU is being very purposeful about growth of enrollment. I believe they laid out a 10 year plan if I recall correctly.

They're doing so much on campus as we speak - new dorm being built, new food court, new book store and a few other things.

If anyone hasn't been to campus in the past 6-7 years, they wouldn't even recognize it now - it looks great!

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Yes it does! In 10-15 years i think there'll be even more changes. I remember reading an article in the paper that TU enlisted the Kaiser Foundation to fund land and property in the Kendall district to expand in that direction. That means it would stretch toward Lewis.

As I understand it the first phase of the redevelopement were the apartments along Lewis that stretch to K-W elementary school. I suppose TU's plan is to have Kaiser aquire the land and then have the university complete the housing with multi-millionaire Mike Case and the Kaisers heavily contributing - but thats a guess.

Money talks and those guys have a lot of it.

So I think we'll eventually see a TU campus stretching from along Harvard to Lewis and the driving force that fuels Midtown Tulsa.

Midtown T-town is really exploding right now and when you think of all the events going on from events at the BOK to baseball at OneOK field and all the sports at TU to the concerts and performing arts etc. its exciting. Jog or buy a bike and you can be about every place you want to go from downtown to midtown.

But the barrier to much of this is the substandard housing just west of the university. So it will eventually go the way of the sod home and mudhut.

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(07-14-2014 09:56 AM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  From what I understand, TU is being very purposeful about growth of enrollment. I believe they laid out a 10 year plan if I recall correctly.

They're doing so much on campus as we speak - new dorm being built, new food court, new book store and a few other things.

If anyone hasn't been to campus in the past 6-7 years, they wouldn't even recognize it now - it looks great!

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Yes it does! In 10-15 years i think there'll be even more changes. I remember reading an article in the paper that TU enlisted the Kaiser Foundation to fund land and property in the Kendall district to expand in that direction. That means it would stretch toward Lewis.

As I understand it the first phase of the redevelopement were the apartments along Lewis that stretch to K-W elementary school. I suppose TU's plan is to have Kaiser aquire the land and then have the university complete the housing with multi-millionaire Mike Case and the Kaisers heavily contributing - but thats a guess.

Money talks and those guys have a lot of it.

So I think we'll eventually see a TU campus stretching from along Harvard to Lewis and the driving force that fuels Midtown Tulsa.

Midtown T-town is really exploding right now and when you think of all the events going on from events at the BOK to baseball at OneOK field and all the sports at TU to the concerts and performing arts etc. its exciting. Jog or buy a bike and you can be about every place you want to go from downtown to midtown.

But the barrier to much of this is the substandard housing just west of the university. So those houses will eventually go the way of the sod home and mudhut.

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I always thought, the enrollment numbers that were used by the NCAA and other organizations were undergraduates......at least that's the way it is stated every time I've heard it. Graduate students don't count when they give the numbers. I believe we will still be the smallest for a few more years.
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(07-30-2014 11:33 AM)jfisher Wrote:  I always thought, the enrollment numbers that were used by the NCAA and other organizations were undergraduates......at least that's the way it is stated every time I've heard it. Graduate students don't count when they give the numbers. I believe we will still be the smallest for a few more years.

Thats a good point. I usually refer to wikipedia which gives both although I found these numbers in the TW. Its just me being lazy not posting both numbers. I looked at it from the standpoint of "total students" regardless of grade/degree level.
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TU wants to be a top 50 institution. The powers have determined that enrollment of 5k+ is necessary to accomplish that - need more students to justify more majors, more funding, etc.
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(01-31-2015 06:05 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  TU wants to be a top 50 institution. The powers have determined that enrollment of 5k+ is necessary to accomplish that - need more students to justify more majors, more funding, etc.

That is in line with story I heard last fall : TU was telling students in orientation that they wanted to double the size of TU (enrollment & physical size ) in the next decade.
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No Longer the Smallest
(01-31-2015 06:19 PM)Tulsafanzz Wrote:  
(01-31-2015 06:05 PM)JesseTU Wrote:  TU wants to be a top 50 institution. The powers have determined that enrollment of 5k+ is necessary to accomplish that - need more students to justify more majors, more funding, etc.

That is in line with story I heard last fall : TU was telling students in orientation that they wanted to double the size of TU (enrollment & physical size ) in the next decade.

Yes, I've also heard this. It's pretty evident if you look around campus and right outside campus. TU has been buying up land left and right and will expand when they need to. Personally I think it's great!
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RE: No Longer the Smallest
It looks like we still have a chance of being the smallest. The academies each have a stated enrollment goal of 4500, but are usually just over. Plus, I don't think those numbers count foreign enrollment or grad students. So we may yet be the smallest. Even if we aren't, we still be the smallest university - military academies are a class unto themselves!

All that said...

I agree. If growing the student body increases our academic standing, protects the financial security of the school, and grows our national/international reputation... No brained. Plus, it could hurt to have an extra 1000 TU fans graduate every year. 03-razz
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