(07-12-2014 11:08 AM)BE4evah Wrote:  Got to love the work that Aresco is doing. He made a big deal about developing natural rivalries (geographic and institutional fit) and he looks like he's going to be successful in football as it's really taking off. The men's and women's basketball rivalry lags a bit but ECU is ready to step it up. One idea is some kind of trophy that is given at the conclusion of each game.

Present it at the end, carry/parade the trophy around the court/field at halftime. Maybe call it the Colonial Trophy, get the governors involved.

Make sure the media stays involved like they have been. Twitter wars, fan involvement. Get and keep the party started.

Just another conference game.

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Not a rivalry game in basketball just like it is not a rivalry in football.

If anyone from the North becomes a rival it will be Temple.

It's just a 6 hour drive, which might seem long to a lot of people but considering our closest C-USA opponent was Marshall which is probably about the same distance (well, not distance, but driving time), it's not bad. We also have a lot of alumni in VA and DC that would be even closer.

(07-12-2014 03:43 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 03:09 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 01:28 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  only 600 miles apart, could definitely become a rivalry

A rivalry would be dependent on both schools being very successful and providing a stumbling block for the other school... not necessarily geography..

That said, this is obviously a Big East troll looking to make you jump to your tippie toes by grabbing your pubes. And, you just jumped...

It's going to be incredibly hard to build rivalries. 3 decades of games against Pitt for UConn basketball. In the last 15 year,s the games were rugged and highly contested, and as often they were for the conference championship. Yet now, no one even misses these games. In hindsight, it wasn't a rivalry.

Most fans outside the old BE would probably not even realize that UConn's biggest bball rival was St. John's, while the biggest football rival was Rutgers (though it would have been BC had they stayed).

Rivalries can't be manufactured. The B1G tried to make Michigan St. into Penn State's rival. And then they gave up on that idea about a decade after trying to force it.

nope our biggest bb rival was Syracuse and our fb rival was indeed Rutgers, there were some great games in both fb and bb.
I was at those UConn bc fb games an they were pretty electric, one in particular was the 2nd bc game when UConn had dan orlofsky, I was there with my bc buddy in boston, bc thought they would romp UConn and boy were they in for a surprise.

bc won by 8 an that was because dan o turned it over in the end, I had my UConn hat on an this a hole firefighter sittin behind me was putting his knees in my back and we almost had it out, definitely jealousy over UConn bb domination. could have been a great rivalry, but bc left and went for the money.......

from 2001 till syracues left we lost two games to the cues and they hated it, UConn football was pretty good and the state and school is commited to football success..........

Before St. John's began to suck in the 2000s, they were easily UConn's biggest bb rival.

Only way this would have been a rivalry is if Vince McMahon s wife had won her bid for Conn. Senate...lmao

(07-12-2014 12:43 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  As someone who lives (and has so for most of my life) in CT, and am somewhat of a UConn fan, AND having lived in NC and followed the Pirates since the year 1980, I have ZERO idea what this thread is about. There's absolutely nothing natural about a rivalry between these two schools.

One is the flagship university for the State of Connecticut. The other is a directional university in North Carolina. One is ranked 57th in the nation among all Universities, the other #181. Among Public Universities, one is ranked #19, the other #101. One wins regularly on the basketball court, the other not very often. ECU may actually have more tradition in football, but UConn has come a long way (and then had a terrible coaching hire) in a short time. Skip Holtz coached UConn in the days it was part of D1a or FBS as it's now known.

Directional U, you just had to go there could leave it alone. May have more tradition????? How many top ten final rankings in football for UConn, ever? One is 3-2 in Bowls total of 5, the other is 9-10 for a total of 19. You got a computer, a smart person would look up the information first before running there mouths and say "may actually" as both a slight back handed complement and a way to give UConn an out for football.

I see no reason whatsoever as to why UConn fans would think of ECU as a rival. Nice troll though - got me.

(07-12-2014 11:08 AM)BE4evah Wrote:  Got to love the work that Aresco is doing. He made a big deal about developing natural rivalries (geographic and institutional fit) and he looks like he's going to be successful in football as it's really taking off. The men's and women's basketball rivalry lags a bit but ECU is ready to step it up. One idea is some kind of trophy that is given at the conclusion of each game.

Present it at the end, carry/parade the trophy around the court/field at halftime. Maybe call it the Colonial Trophy, get the governors involved.

Make sure the media stays involved like they have been. Twitter wars, fan involvement. Get and keep the party started.

(07-12-2014 02:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 01:28 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  only 600 miles apart, could definitely become a rivalry

A rivalry would be dependent on both schools being very successful and providing a stumbling block for the other school... not necessarily geography..

That said, this is obviously a Big East troll looking to make you jump to your tippie toes by grabbing your pubes. And, you just jumped...

... not before you did.

(07-12-2014 03:09 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  Rivalries can't be manufactured. The B1G tried to make Michigan St. into Penn State's rival. And then they gave up on that idea about a decade after trying to force it.

Yep, they either emerge organically or they don't.

(07-12-2014 04:56 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 04:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  I seem to remember some good uconn-Temple football games in the recent past.

That said, if uconn was really focused on geographical rivals then they'd be umass's biggest champion... Which they aren't..

Both SMU and Houston lost decades of tradition with their former SWC brethren. I don't feel bad for UCONN who just started playing football. As for Hoops, there is nothing to feel sorry there either.

let me put it this way, if you are missing RUTGERS football, than you should feel thankful that you actually have the rest of your life to become educated on GOOD football...

Rutgers is not Texas, A&M, Arkansas, etc, etc, etc...

Homer is now talking to himself publicly. Always figured he did it privately but ...

(07-13-2014 12:11 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 12:43 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  As someone who lives (and has so for most of my life) in CT, and am somewhat of a UConn fan, AND having lived in NC and followed the Pirates since the year 1980, I have ZERO idea what this thread is about. There's absolutely nothing natural about a rivalry between these two schools.

One is the flagship university for the State of Connecticut. The other is a directional university in North Carolina. One is ranked 57th in the nation among all Universities, the other #181. Among Public Universities, one is ranked #19, the other #101. One wins regularly on the basketball court, the other not very often. ECU may actually have more tradition in football, but UConn has come a long way (and then had a terrible coaching hire) in a short time. Skip Holtz coached UConn in the days it was part of D1a or FBS as it's now known.

Directional U, you just had to go there could leave it alone. May have more tradition????? How many top ten final rankings in football for UConn, ever? One is 3-2 in Bowls total of 5, the other is 9-10 for a total of 19. You got a computer, a smart person would look up the information first before running there mouths and say "may actually" as both a slight back handed complement and a way to give UConn an out for football.

dfrct is a troll don't listen , its not a directional school ecu, 181 national is not bad actually, with all the colleges in this country.
welcome ecu............we need u badly.............

if you conn can get their running game going, watch out, if not it'll be a long year.

just so you know ecu, UConn beat up Baylor a few times and has had some solid fb teams.


UConn takes down notre dame, enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfqLxHdc4Mw

(07-12-2014 04:06 PM)PIRATE TERP Wrote:  just for the of it ... I'm thinkin that ECU-UCF and/or ECU_CINN are going to develop into very nice rivalry type games in football ... all based on fan comments and previous game histories etc ... basketball is an unknown because ECU needs to step it up big time which I think they are in the process of doing ... Lebo is quietly assembling a very good model to grow ...

You are right, the best chance for a rivalry for ECU is with another directional school. Period.

(07-13-2014 01:13 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(07-13-2014 12:11 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 12:43 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  As someone who lives (and has so for most of my life) in CT, and am somewhat of a UConn fan, AND having lived in NC and followed the Pirates since the year 1980, I have ZERO idea what this thread is about. There's absolutely nothing natural about a rivalry between these two schools.

One is the flagship university for the State of Connecticut. The other is a directional university in North Carolina. One is ranked 57th in the nation among all Universities, the other #181. Among Public Universities, one is ranked #19, the other #101. One wins regularly on the basketball court, the other not very often. ECU may actually have more tradition in football, but UConn has come a long way (and then had a terrible coaching hire) in a short time. Skip Holtz coached UConn in the days it was part of D1a or FBS as it's now known.

Directional U, you just had to go there could leave it alone. May have more tradition????? How many top ten final rankings in football for UConn, ever? One is 3-2 in Bowls total of 5, the other is 9-10 for a total of 19. You got a computer, a smart person would look up the information first before running there mouths and say "may actually" as both a slight back handed complement and a way to give UConn an out for football.

dfrct is a troll don't listen , its not a directional school ecu, 181 national is not bad actually, with all the colleges in this country.
welcome ecu............we need u badly.............

if you conn can get their running game going, watch out, if not it'll be a long year.

just so you know ecu, UConn beat up Baylor a few times and has had some solid fb teams.


UConn takes down notre dame, enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfqLxHdc4Mw

Doesn't ECU start with EAST? Not a directional school? Sorry.

I live in Connecticut, and gradutated HS from NC. I pay tuition to UConn for my daughter. I know a bit about both programs.

You think ECU is in the same academic category as UConn? Dream on. I did my homework and posted NOTHING that was inaccurate. When has ECU been to a BCS bowl? NEVER. UConn is light years ahead of ECU in terms of getting into a P5. They're ahead of my alma mater as well. How many "directional" universities are there in the P5? I don't think there's any.

I do think ECU has more history in football, but is nowhere near UConn's rival. Nor is it the flagship University, it's actually tied for third in the state of NC with Wilmington, App State (which has good football, too!) and other State schools.

ECU Pirates are fun to watch mostly because of their fans. But you're dreaming if you think they're anywhere close to the academic (and frankly athletic) quality of UConn.

CYA

(07-13-2014 12:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 03:09 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  Rivalries can't be manufactured. The B1G tried to make Michigan St. into Penn State's rival. And then they gave up on that idea about a decade after trying to force it.

Yep, they either emerge organically or they don't.

Amen.

Maryland kept telling the world they were Duke's rival. Duke NEVER thought of Maryland as a rival, just a pesky team that every once and a while would steal a game from them. Duke's rival is and will always be Carolina.

All ECU can do is worry about themselves and continue to get better academically and athletically. Constant improvement will take care of all these perceived issues. ECU will be a contributor to the success of this conference. Let the games begin!

(07-13-2014 01:39 PM)Rowdydowdy Wrote:  All ECU can do is worry about themselves and continue to get better academically and athletically. Constant improvement will take care of all these perceived issues. ECU will be a contributor to the success of this conference. Let the games begin!

(07-13-2014 01:23 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  

(07-13-2014 01:13 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(07-13-2014 12:11 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(07-12-2014 12:43 PM)DfromCT Wrote:  As someone who lives (and has so for most of my life) in CT, and am somewhat of a UConn fan, AND having lived in NC and followed the Pirates since the year 1980, I have ZERO idea what this thread is about. There's absolutely nothing natural about a rivalry between these two schools.

One is the flagship university for the State of Connecticut. The other is a directional university in North Carolina. One is ranked 57th in the nation among all Universities, the other #181. Among Public Universities, one is ranked #19, the other #101. One wins regularly on the basketball court, the other not very often. ECU may actually have more tradition in football, but UConn has come a long way (and then had a terrible coaching hire) in a short time. Skip Holtz coached UConn in the days it was part of D1a or FBS as it's now known.

Directional U, you just had to go there could leave it alone. May have more tradition????? How many top ten final rankings in football for UConn, ever? One is 3-2 in Bowls total of 5, the other is 9-10 for a total of 19. You got a computer, a smart person would look up the information first before running there mouths and say "may actually" as both a slight back handed complement and a way to give UConn an out for football.

dfrct is a troll don't listen , its not a directional school ecu, 181 national is not bad actually, with all the colleges in this country.
welcome ecu............we need u badly.............

if you conn can get their running game going, watch out, if not it'll be a long year.

just so you know ecu, UConn beat up Baylor a few times and has had some solid fb teams.


UConn takes down notre dame, enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfqLxHdc4Mw

Doesn't ECU start with EAST? Not a directional school? Sorry.

I live in Connecticut, and gradutated HS from NC. I pay tuition to UConn for my daughter. I know a bit about both programs.

You think ECU is in the same academic category as UConn? Dream on. I did my homework and posted NOTHING that was inaccurate. When has ECU been to a BCS bowl? NEVER. UConn is light years ahead of ECU in terms of getting into a P5. They're ahead of my alma mater as well. How many "directional" universities are there in the P5? I don't think there's any.

I do think ECU has more history in football, but is nowhere near UConn's rival. Nor is it the flagship University, it's actually tied for third in the state of NC with Wilmington, App State (which has good football, too!) and other State schools.

ECU Pirates are fun to watch mostly because of their fans. But you're dreaming if you think they're anywhere close to the academic (and frankly athletic) quality of UConn.

CYA

I pay tuition for my daughter also and she starts UConn in the fall, to be honest it doesn't matter where you go to school., tell that to the 90 day wonders of ww2, my dad was one of them and he was a flight navigator on a b17 bomber, flew lead plane with the colonel many times and went to eboston high school mass and became a captain in the army air core......

(07-13-2014 01:39 PM)Rowdydowdy Wrote:  All ECU can do is worry about themselves and continue to get better academically and athletically. Constant improvement will take care of all these perceived issues. ECU will be a contributor to the success of this conference. Let the games begin!

I totally agree. They will contribute to the AAC, especially in football, and may be better in Basketball than most think. Lebo will get them headed in the right direction. Certainly the Pirates are ahead of Tulane on the hardwood, and have been better, despite the loss in New Orleans last year on the gridiron. Their fan base is solid, they travel well to bowl games, and have an awesome pregame ritual at their stadium.

Sorry for any offense ECU fans take to the directional school references. I can't say that I'm a Pirates fan, but had about 20 or so of my HS classmates go to ECU so I always have followed (and respected)the Pirates.

(07-13-2014 02:05 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  dfrct is a troll don't listen , its not a directional school ecu, 181 national is not bad actually, with all the colleges in this country.
welcome ecu............we need u badly.............

I pay tuition for my daughter also and she starts UConn in the fall, to be honest it doesn't matter where you go to school., tell that to the 90 day wonders of ww2, my dad was one of them and he was a flight navigator on a b17 bomber, flew lead plane with the colonel many times and went to eboston high school mass and became a captain in the army air core......

Why do you call me a troll?

I didn't disparage either school, except for the (already apologized for) "directional school" reference. Sorry, but all that fit that category have to deal with it. It sucks for them, I feel for them, but it's reality. I wouldn't be surprised if ECU is the one to put together the team that breaks that mold and gets a P5 interested. But right now tell me a directional school that's in the P5 (where we all want to be, or better yet, where Aresco wants to take us as the 6). I'm being realistic and I'm sure it's throwing salt on a sore subject. For that I apologize.