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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
Six days later and I'm still laughing at the fact that you began your grand plan by referring to BYU (not even a member of the MWC) and UConn as the flagship programs of their respective conferences.
07-15-2014 11:25 AM
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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
Once byu realize that they are not getting in the big12 and see lesser teams in better bowls over them due to conference tie ins these additional teams in an expanded aac will suddenly become very attractive to them.
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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
(07-15-2014 09:25 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-15-2014 08:30 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(07-14-2014 06:52 PM)Maize Wrote:  The best of the G5 should form up.

If it meant a guarantee to be included at the highest level now and in the future, and a guarantee of comparable pay to the P5 this would have happened yesterday.

It probably would be included in D4. It would not make power conference money. Once established, i could see a best of the rest G5 conference maybe generating about half of what a P5 conference makes----which would be a significant improvement.

It would seem they could do better. The Big East before its split was going to get $15 million or so for the football members. Given the new BE is getting $4 million, that's still $11 million/school for football even if basketball is zero.

That lineup was UConn, Cincy, USF, Temple-still in AAC, + Rutgers, Pitt, SU, WVU, TCU.

Note that the current contract included Rutgers and Louisville.

Unless the new P5 contracts have just eaten up all the airtime, there would seem to be more money out there for the right combination.
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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
I think that byu, sdsu, any two of unlv, afa, boise is the inevitable future of the American. I think that is Aresco's end game and his "quasi alliance" with byu is is a soft step in that direction
07-16-2014 09:40 AM
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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
(07-16-2014 09:28 AM)Tigersmoke Wrote:  Once byu realize that they are not getting in the big12 and see lesser teams in better bowls over them due to conference tie ins these additional teams in an expanded aac will suddenly become very attractive to them.

What exactly are these 'better bowls' that the AAC can offer? Most of the AAC bowls feature matchups against other G5 conferences. The two that do have annual P5 tie-ins, the BBVA Compass Bowl and the Military Bowl, are pretty far down the list for their opponents and unlikely to provide a quality opponent (assuming they're even able to qualify enough teams).
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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
(07-16-2014 10:31 AM)prp Wrote:  
(07-16-2014 09:28 AM)Tigersmoke Wrote:  Once byu realize that they are not getting in the big12 and see lesser teams in better bowls over them due to conference tie ins these additional teams in an expanded aac will suddenly become very attractive to them.

What exactly are these 'better bowls' that the AAC can offer? Most of the AAC bowls feature matchups against other G5 conferences. The two that do have annual P5 tie-ins, the BBVA Compass Bowl and the Military Bowl, are pretty far down the list for their opponents and unlikely to provide a quality opponent (assuming they're even able to qualify enough teams).

Actually, the AAC has 4 bowls with P5 ties. Birmingham and Military are full time P5. The Armed Forces Bowl is only an AAC bowl for 3 of the next 6 years and is tied to the Big-12. St Pete only has a P5 tie for 3 of the next 6 years. So, effectively the AAC has the equivalent of 3 full bowl slots a year vs P5 conferences over the next 6 years. The most any other G5 has is one. Yeah, it still sucks---but its better than any other G5 can offer---which was his point I think.

Military-ACC vs AAC
Birmingham--AAC vs SEC
St Pete--AAC vs ACC (3yrs) or CUSA (3yrs)
Armed Forces (3 yrs) AAC vs B-12
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Re: The inevitable East/West Conference
BYU doesnt have access to the tie in as indy do they?

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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
(07-16-2014 04:35 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  BYU doesnt have access to the tie in as indy do they?

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Assuming they're eligible, they have agreements for the Miami Beach Bowl against the AAC in 2014 and the Poinsettia Bowl in 2016 and 2018 against the MWC.
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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
I think he meant a tie in to the access bowl spot. The answer is no they don't, they theoretically can only earn a spot in the 4 team playoffs and that is next to impossible with the schedules they are forced to play. Their sos will never be high enough.
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RE: The inevitable East/West Conference
(07-16-2014 05:12 PM)Tigersmoke Wrote:  I think he meant a tie in to the access bowl spot. The answer is no they don't, they theoretically can only earn a spot in the 4 team playoffs and that is next to impossible with the schedules they are forced to play. Their sos will never be high enough.

That is their only Access Point and that is it actually make the 4 Team Playoff.
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Byu's arrogance is what has and what is keeping them from moving up to the next level. I think the American has the most potential to make a move up, but byu is the catalyst for a big quick move to p6 status only because the necessary western teams needed would scramble to come with them to the American. This would basically kill the mwc and accend us to defacto p6 status along with pushing us farther away from the beast in bball
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