(07-02-2014 10:55 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The question asked was, "If both the B1G and ACC wanted to add UCONN, which would you prefer and why?"

Here is my non-statistical summary of the discussion.

15% are non-committal. Responses like, "who ever asks first."
20% are pro B1G
20% are pro ACC
45% are negative ACC

It doesn't surprise me that 80% of their, presumably, most dedicated fans are not in favor of the ACC. What surprises me is the attitude that they feel they were unfairly rejected or passed over by the ACC when 80% of them don't want to be in the ACC.

There is nothing interesting over there other than perhaps an interesting case study for someone studying mass delusion.

Football. It has nothing to do with anything but football. Not lawsuits, not basketball, not BC, not the AAU, not championship tiddlywinks... not having a football program that anyone give a sh** about is why they are in the American. It is not more complicated than that. If they want to move up, they better focus on becoming the next Boise State. And I have nothing against UConn, I miss playing them in hoops and they have an excellent athletic department in general, but that is the reality.

(07-02-2014 09:24 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 10:55 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The question asked was, "If both the B1G and ACC wanted to add UCONN, which would you prefer and why?"

Here is my non-statistical summary of the discussion.

15% are non-committal. Responses like, "who ever asks first."
20% are pro B1G
20% are pro ACC
45% are negative ACC

It doesn't surprise me that 80% of their, presumably, most dedicated fans are not in favor of the ACC. What surprises me is the attitude that they feel they were unfairly rejected or passed over by the ACC when 80% of them don't want to be in the ACC.

There is nothing interesting over there other than perhaps an interesting case study for someone studying mass delusion.

Football. It has nothing to do with anything but football. Not lawsuits, not basketball, not BC, not the AAU, not championship tiddlywinks... not having a football program that anyone give a sh** about is why they are in the American. It is not more complicated than that. If they want to move up, they better focus on becoming the next Boise State. And I have nothing against UConn, I miss playing them in hoops and they have an excellent athletic department in general, but that is the reality.

To play devil's advocate, outside of homer fans, who in the rest of nation over the past decade gives a sh** about SU football, Pitt football, Rutgers football, BC football, etc.?

The truth is any one of those programs could have been the one left out. Fortunately for you and I, our teams were not. But they could have been except for time, circumstances, and a foolish decision by the UConn AG to push so hard against the ACC back in 2003 to make a name for himself.

Cheers,
Neil

The A-10 and Big East's top 6 programs are both better than the AAC's top 6.

(07-02-2014 10:19 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  The A-10 and Big East's top 6 programs are both better than the AAC's top 6.

You might want to look at the teams again.

Not really well thought out by Marge when it comes to Basketball...

Maybe it would've helped you all out if I said 6th best program.

For the AAC, it's:

UConn


UC

Memphis

Temple



Who cares.

Seriously, aside from those 4 it's a bunch of nobodies. Sure, Tulsa or Houston or SMU (for the next couple years) or whomever could have a good year, but that doesn't mean d*ck.

The Big East is unquestionably better than the AAC. Only a clown would argue otherwise.

The A-10 has VCU, SLU, UD, UMass, GW, Saint Joe's, etc. While the top few of the AAC is clearly better than the top few of the A-10 (UConn trumping all), the A-10 compares quite well with its mid-tier schools versus the AAC's mid-tier pack.

UL ain't in the AAC anymore, folks.

SMU will be likely Preseason Top 10 going into this year with Hall of Fame Coach Larry Brown...UConn is the National Champion, Memphis is a consistent Top 25 Team along with Cincinnati...the A-10 has no one that will he ranked going into 2014-2015 and only Nova will be Top 10 going into this year....BTW, no reason to argue...it is your opinion or whatever..

And (wink) just saying, the AAC is by far the much better Football conference than the BE and A10 !LOL

(07-03-2014 05:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  And (wink) just saying, the AAC is by far the much better Football conference than the BE and A10 !LOL

I don't know bout that...Nova is a " Traditional" power that recently won a NCAA Football Title....

I have a lot of respect for Uconn and want them to do well. However I love the Big Ten and Syracuse even more. If uconn joins the ACC it would be detrimental to syracuse, if uconn joins the Big Ten it would be detrimental to the conference. If only there was a super hot conference to the east that uconn could join id be happy but unfortunately there is no market in the north atlantic. The only way i would be happy with uconn in the ACC is if they join the day after syracuse accepts a Big Ten invite.

For Cuse: UConn joining the ACC is better than UConn joining the B1G...I'd rather have them than not. They could tip the balance of the NE into B1G country.

(07-02-2014 09:37 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 09:24 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 10:55 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The question asked was, "If both the B1G and ACC wanted to add UCONN, which would you prefer and why?"

Here is my non-statistical summary of the discussion.

15% are non-committal. Responses like, "who ever asks first."
20% are pro B1G
20% are pro ACC
45% are negative ACC

It doesn't surprise me that 80% of their, presumably, most dedicated fans are not in favor of the ACC. What surprises me is the attitude that they feel they were unfairly rejected or passed over by the ACC when 80% of them don't want to be in the ACC.

There is nothing interesting over there other than perhaps an interesting case study for someone studying mass delusion.

Football. It has nothing to do with anything but football. Not lawsuits, not basketball, not BC, not the AAU, not championship tiddlywinks... not having a football program that anyone give a sh** about is why they are in the American. It is not more complicated than that. If they want to move up, they better focus on becoming the next Boise State. And I have nothing against UConn, I miss playing them in hoops and they have an excellent athletic department in general, but that is the reality.

To play devil's advocate, outside of homer fans, who in the rest of nation over the past decade gives a sh** about SU football, Pitt football, Rutgers football, BC football, etc.?

The truth is any one of those programs could have been the one left out. Fortunately for you and I, our teams were not. But they could have been except for time, circumstances, and a foolish decision by the UConn AG to push so hard against the ACC back in 2003 to make a name for himself.

Cheers,
Neil

Night and day.

Look at the tv ratings.

There's a pedigree here and backed up with markets. There was no chance of being left out for SU and Pitt.

(07-03-2014 09:52 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  For Cuse: UConn joining the ACC is better than UConn joining the B1G...I'd rather have them than not. They could tip the balance of the NE into B1G country.

I don't think you have to worry about that, at all.

With the deals the BTN has signed with TimeWarner/Comcast/Dish/DirecTV and they have that section covered UConn gonna be waiting on that invite to the B1G for a lllloooonnnngggg while...

(07-03-2014 09:52 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  For Cuse: UConn joining the ACC is better than UConn joining the B1G...I'd rather have them than not. They could tip the balance of the NE into B1G country.

hence the reason I don't want them in the b10 either

(07-03-2014 09:54 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 09:37 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 09:24 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 10:55 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The question asked was, "If both the B1G and ACC wanted to add UCONN, which would you prefer and why?"

Here is my non-statistical summary of the discussion.

15% are non-committal. Responses like, "who ever asks first."
20% are pro B1G
20% are pro ACC
45% are negative ACC

It doesn't surprise me that 80% of their, presumably, most dedicated fans are not in favor of the ACC. What surprises me is the attitude that they feel they were unfairly rejected or passed over by the ACC when 80% of them don't want to be in the ACC.

There is nothing interesting over there other than perhaps an interesting case study for someone studying mass delusion.

Football. It has nothing to do with anything but football. Not lawsuits, not basketball, not BC, not the AAU, not championship tiddlywinks... not having a football program that anyone give a sh** about is why they are in the American. It is not more complicated than that. If they want to move up, they better focus on becoming the next Boise State. And I have nothing against UConn, I miss playing them in hoops and they have an excellent athletic department in general, but that is the reality.

To play devil's advocate, outside of homer fans, who in the rest of nation over the past decade gives a sh** about SU football, Pitt football, Rutgers football, BC football, etc.?

The truth is any one of those programs could have been the one left out. Fortunately for you and I, our teams were not. But they could have been except for time, circumstances, and a foolish decision by the UConn AG to push so hard against the ACC back in 2003 to make a name for himself.

Cheers,
Neil

Night and day.

Look at the tv ratings.

There's a pedigree here and backed up with markets. There was no chance of being left out for SU and Pitt.

Ditto for BC. 7th largest media market and they do well in the TV ratings, despite the baseless claims of their detractors.

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/12/4...m-missouri

(07-03-2014 10:07 AM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(07-03-2014 09:54 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 09:37 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 09:24 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 10:55 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  The question asked was, "If both the B1G and ACC wanted to add UCONN, which would you prefer and why?"

Here is my non-statistical summary of the discussion.

15% are non-committal. Responses like, "who ever asks first."
20% are pro B1G
20% are pro ACC
45% are negative ACC

It doesn't surprise me that 80% of their, presumably, most dedicated fans are not in favor of the ACC. What surprises me is the attitude that they feel they were unfairly rejected or passed over by the ACC when 80% of them don't want to be in the ACC.

There is nothing interesting over there other than perhaps an interesting case study for someone studying mass delusion.

Football. It has nothing to do with anything but football. Not lawsuits, not basketball, not BC, not the AAU, not championship tiddlywinks... not having a football program that anyone give a sh** about is why they are in the American. It is not more complicated than that. If they want to move up, they better focus on becoming the next Boise State. And I have nothing against UConn, I miss playing them in hoops and they have an excellent athletic department in general, but that is the reality.

To play devil's advocate, outside of homer fans, who in the rest of nation over the past decade gives a sh** about SU football, Pitt football, Rutgers football, BC football, etc.?

The truth is any one of those programs could have been the one left out. Fortunately for you and I, our teams were not. But they could have been except for time, circumstances, and a foolish decision by the UConn AG to push so hard against the ACC back in 2003 to make a name for himself.

Cheers,
Neil

Night and day.

Look at the tv ratings.

There's a pedigree here and backed up with markets. There was no chance of being left out for SU and Pitt.

Ditto for BC. 7th largest media market and they do well in the TV ratings, despite the baseless claims of their detractors.

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/12/4...m-missouri

Shalala-Leahy relationship is why.

The NE is definitely ACC territory, even if Rutgers is in the Big 10. BC, Pitt, Cuse, Miami, ND all have big followings in at least one state in the NE region.

(07-03-2014 11:24 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-03-2014 10:07 AM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(07-03-2014 09:54 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 09:37 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(07-02-2014 09:24 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  There is nothing interesting over there other than perhaps an interesting case study for someone studying mass delusion.

Football. It has nothing to do with anything but football. Not lawsuits, not basketball, not BC, not the AAU, not championship tiddlywinks... not having a football program that anyone give a sh** about is why they are in the American. It is not more complicated than that. If they want to move up, they better focus on becoming the next Boise State. And I have nothing against UConn, I miss playing them in hoops and they have an excellent athletic department in general, but that is the reality.

To play devil's advocate, outside of homer fans, who in the rest of nation over the past decade gives a sh** about SU football, Pitt football, Rutgers football, BC football, etc.?

The truth is any one of those programs could have been the one left out. Fortunately for you and I, our teams were not. But they could have been except for time, circumstances, and a foolish decision by the UConn AG to push so hard against the ACC back in 2003 to make a name for himself.

Cheers,
Neil

Night and day.

Look at the tv ratings.

There's a pedigree here and backed up with markets. There was no chance of being left out for SU and Pitt.

Ditto for BC. 7th largest media market and they do well in the TV ratings, despite the baseless claims of their detractors.

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/12/4...m-missouri

Shalala-Leahy relationship is why.

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(07-03-2014 11:30 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  The NE is definitely ACC territory, even if Rutgers is in the Big 10. BC, Pitt, Cuse, Miami, ND all have big followings in at least one state in the NE region.

I don't think it's something that one conference really claim. Both can claim a presence, but neither are really the conference of the region. The Big Ten has the stronger presence in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Maryland (if you count Maryland as northeast; most do, but historically they aren't). The ACC is stronger in New England and upstate New York. The ACC is bigger in New York City with basketball, with the Big Ten in football. Washington (again if you count it as northeast) will be interesting, but both have a decent presence.

Note: Of course, the Big East and UConn also have a big presence.