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RE: EMU Football Predictions 2014 Win Loss Record?
I am getting more and more optimistic (perhaps foolishly), but I will say 7-5 and a bowl game
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(08-01-2014 01:02 PM)NKOTB Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 12:15 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  % Chances of EMU winning, to base record off of...

1. Morgan State @ EMU: 80%
2. EMU @ Florida: 5%
3. EMU @ Old Dominion: 40%
4. EMU @ MSU: 10%
5. EMU @ Akron: 35%
6. Buffalo @ EMU: 35%
7. EMU @ UMass: 65%
8. NIU @ EMU: 25%
9. CMU @ EMU: 45%
10. EMU @ WMU: 50%
11. EMU @ BSU: 25%
12. Toledo @ EMU: 20%

Record: 4.35 - 7.65 (4-8)

I think they'll improve a bit with the new coach.

Please allow me a chance to recalculate the %'s with the new coaches, strength/training, new offensives and defensives schemes, mostly senior class, new attitude among the players, Rob Bolden, new field, and other intangible.

1. Morgan State @ EMU: 95% 1st staff games.
2. EMU @ Florida: 20% they will over look us.
3. EMU @ Old Dominion: 60% they are not that good.
4. EMU @ MSU: 30% we always play them well for 3 quarters.
5. EMU @ Akron: 65% they are not good on the road.
6. Buffalo @ EMU: 50% they are not good on defense.
7. EMU @ UMass: 75% poor team.
8. NIU @ EMU: 55% I think they will be more middle of the road team, they lost too much.
9. CMU @ EMU: 65% they are not good.
10. EMU @ WMU: 60% they are worst then CMU
11. EMU @ BSU: 45% Rob Bolden with carry this came.
12. Toledo @ EMU: 40% senior day, this will be a all heart game.

I see us being 8-4 or 9-3

Okay everyone, don't laugh too hard.

Hahaha you are quite the joker my friend!

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RE: EMU Football Predictions 2014 Win Loss Record?
(08-03-2014 03:44 PM)RedandBlackAttack Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 01:02 PM)NKOTB Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 12:15 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  % Chances of EMU winning, to base record off of...

1. Morgan State @ EMU: 80%
2. EMU @ Florida: 5%
3. EMU @ Old Dominion: 40%
4. EMU @ MSU: 10%
5. EMU @ Akron: 35%
6. Buffalo @ EMU: 35%
7. EMU @ UMass: 65%
8. NIU @ EMU: 25%
9. CMU @ EMU: 45%
10. EMU @ WMU: 50%
11. EMU @ BSU: 25%
12. Toledo @ EMU: 20%

Record: 4.35 - 7.65 (4-8)

I think they'll improve a bit with the new coach.

Please allow me a chance to recalculate the %'s with the new coaches, strength/training, new offensives and defensives schemes, mostly senior class, new attitude among the players, Rob Bolden, new field, and other intangible.

1. Morgan State @ EMU: 95% 1st staff games.
2. EMU @ Florida: 20% they will over look us.
3. EMU @ Old Dominion: 60% they are not that good.
4. EMU @ MSU: 30% we always play them well for 3 quarters.
5. EMU @ Akron: 65% they are not good on the road.
6. Buffalo @ EMU: 50% they are not good on defense.
7. EMU @ UMass: 75% poor team.
8. NIU @ EMU: 55% I think they will be more middle of the road team, they lost too much.
9. CMU @ EMU: 65% they are not good.
10. EMU @ WMU: 60% they are worst then CMU
11. EMU @ BSU: 45% Rob Bolden with carry this came.
12. Toledo @ EMU: 40% senior day, this will be a all heart game.

I see us being 8-4 or 9-3

Okay everyone, don't laugh too hard.

Hahaha you are quite the joker my friend!

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(08-03-2014 12:11 AM)mshumaker Wrote:  I am getting more and more optimistic (perhaps foolishly), but I will say 7-5 and a bowl game

I'd love it - but that's a stretch.

I originally said 4-8, but I'm thinking maybe one more win.....

Must wins:
Morgan State - convincingly I hope
UMass - new coach and unknown conference future
WMU - The boat is still not seaworthy

Can wins:
Old Dominion - just don't know enough about these guys
CMU - These guys are not that good - last year got lucky with the schedule
Ball State - I'm thinking (hoping) these guys lost too much from last year's team

Unlikely:
Akron - this team is one the rise
NIU - still talented, regardless who's playing QB
Toledo - might get lucky, but the Rockets are a better team
Buffalo - I saw how good they were last year - I expect they'll be good again

Nope:
Florida - get out with no damage
MSU - It would be nice to play them close again, but I'm not optimistic

Improved season sets up a winner for 2015
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I wasn't sure where to place this posing. This was a very informative podcast and some great points and topics. It's a little long but covers a lot about this team, players, coaches, directions, inside information etc.

http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/8/9/59860...ith-jeremy

I still think this team will go to a bowl game with Coach Chris Creighton.
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Quote:Must wins:
Morgan State - convincingly I hope
UMass - new coach and unknown conference future
WMU - The boat is still not seaworthy

WMU is a Can win, not a Must/Will win game. WMU/EMU was a barn-burner last year and WMU sucked balls. However, WMU will be improved this year by talent, depth, and the youngest coach's 2nd year. I say this objectively, not just as a WMU fan. :)

Quote:Can wins:
Old Dominion - just don't know enough about these guys
CMU - These guys are not that good - last year got lucky with the schedule
Ball State - I'm thinking (hoping) these guys lost too much from last year's team

I looked up Old Dominion. That's why I put EMU's chances at 40%. They're not D1AA anymore, and they've played FBS schools recently -- and they are a Real Mid Major level team, assuming they're as good as last year's. Plus, it's *AT* Old Dominion, too. It is a Can-Win, if EMU is improved from last year.

CMU is at home for ya, and yeah, CMU hasn't propelled to what was expected by Chip fans. Their coach has settled in, so pretty much what you've seen is what you'll get. I would put EMU's chances over CMU at home, greater than @WMU.

Quote:Unlikely:
Akron - this team is one the rise
NIU - still talented, regardless who's playing QB
Toledo - might get lucky, but the Rockets are a better team
Buffalo - I saw how good they were last year - I expect they'll be good again

NIU's QB should be pretty good. They won't be as good as last year, but yeah -- unlikely win even at home. Toledo will be good, possibly the best in the Mac West. Buffalo? Hard to say. If they go down this year and you guys go up, it could be a "Can Win" game. Akron though -- in their sweet stadium w/ Bowden with them on the rise -- yeah, that's very unlikely.

Quote:Nope:
Florida - get out with no damage
MSU - It would be nice to play them close again, but I'm not optimistic

MSU started the season BAD. I mean, real BAD. If they played Ball State, Toledo, NIU, or BGSU they would have gotten creamed. WMU played them tough to start out.

However, Dantonio isn't going to have his team start out dazed & confused again. He was LUCKY they dodged mid-major bullets.
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(08-01-2014 01:02 PM)NKOTB Wrote:  Please allow me a chance to recalculate the %'s with the new coaches, strength/training, new offensives and defensives schemes, mostly senior class, new attitude among the players, Rob Bolden, new field, and other intangible.

1. Morgan State @ EMU: 95% 1st staff games.
2. EMU @ Florida: 20% they will over look us.
3. EMU @ Old Dominion: 60% they are not that good.
4. EMU @ MSU: 30% we always play them well for 3 quarters.
5. EMU @ Akron: 65% they are not good on the road.
6. Buffalo @ EMU: 50% they are not good on defense.
7. EMU @ UMass: 75% poor team.
8. NIU @ EMU: 55% I think they will be more middle of the road team, they lost too much.
9. CMU @ EMU: 65% they are not good.
10. EMU @ WMU: 60% they are worst then CMU
11. EMU @ BSU: 45% Rob Bolden with carry this came.
12. Toledo @ EMU: 40% senior day, this will be a all heart game.

I see us being 8-4 or 9-3

Okay everyone, don't laugh too hard.

Oh, I am laughing. :) If EMU goes 9-3, their new coach will be GONE -- hired by another program. He'd be an infinite sports genius that mankind thought wouldn't exist!

1. Morgan State: I wouldn't say 95%, as EMU has struggled against D1AA teams. The reason I said 80% instead of 90% is because of that + Morgan State was 5-2 in their last 7 games last year. Just saying it's not a super-easy D1AA team, that's all.

2. Florda: Yeah, but it won't affect the chances of winning. There's a good reason they'll overlook. Unless EMU's a surprise/changed team (that Eagle fans always hope the next year is) -- that won't affect chances of winning really -- just to beat the spread to some degree.

3. Old Dominion IS decent. A good D1AA transfer into real D1 football. Last year they were 8-4 -- going 8-0 against all D1AA opponents, and lost 4 to FBS teams. They played Pitt & East Carolina relatively close. And this game is at Old Dominion, now part of C-USA. I stand by 40% chance of EMU winning it.

4. MSU 30% chance of winning? No way. Unless MSU starts the season off in a very rare form super-horrible -- it's not going to be 30%+. Dantonio ain't going to let his team be like that again. And as you said, you tend to play them relatively tough -- Dantonio knows this. He won't be overlooking.

5. EMU's not good on the road and you give EMU a 65% chance to win @Akron?? :) Akron's on the rise, man.

6. 50/50 for Buffalo? If Buffalo kinda sucks this year, which is a possibility, that's the only way I'd see that.

8. NIU @ EMU: 55%?? So EMU's favored to win, huh? LOL. NIU instead of being a 10+ win team, they'll be an 8+ win team. They keep their coaches from within -- their QB is going to be at Least decent. You won't see a big drop-off. No, sorry, NIU will be favored strongly to win.

9. CMU @ EMU: 65%?? Okay, it's home, CMU isn't that good. But neither is EMU! EMU could win this game -- it'll be roughly 50-50 shot.. not a solid favored win by EMU.

10. EMU @ WMU: 60%, yet "they are worst then CMU"? But less of a chance? Okay, on the road -- fair enough, but they wouldn't be that much worse. But I have to tell ya -- WMU is not going to be as bad as last year. They'll be improved. And last year's EMU/WMU game was a barn-burner. This time it's in Kzoo. It will be another roughly-a-toss-up game, leaning in the Bronco's favor.

I think you're treating EMU like they're a historic 6-6/7-5 team or something who's on the tipping point of a good improvement this year. I honestly have to ask -- what exists within EMU's program that's suddenly going to jolt them?
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(08-10-2014 02:42 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  WMU is a Can win, not a Must/Will win game. WMU/EMU was a barn-burner last year and WMU sucked balls. However, WMU will be improved this year by talent, depth, and the youngest coach's 2nd year. I say this objectively, not just as a WMU fan. :)

This may be a news flash for you but EMU is likely to be much improved also. It's almost like you're implying that EMU is always the same 1-2 win team.

EMU will be improved this year by talent, depth, and an experienced coach that has never had a losing season in his 17 years of coaching as a HC.
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Isn't Western expecting to start 14 freshmen or something like that (according to Fleck)? How can one say that WMU will improve when over 50% of the starters haven't played a down of college football? I mean, it is completely possible that they will improve (not tough to do after a 1-11 season, we know that all too well as EMU fans), but I think that is a pretty difficult prediction to make when no one has seen these kids play.
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(08-11-2014 07:09 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  Isn't Western expecting to start 14 freshmen or something like that (according to Fleck)? How can one say that WMU will improve when over 50% of the starters haven't played a down of college football? I mean, it is completely possible that they will improve (not tough to do after a 1-11 season, we know that all too well as EMU fans), but I think that is a pretty difficult prediction to make when no one has seen these kids play.

I must agree 100% with everything that you posted...
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If CC can't outcoach PJ the Elite one (read arrogant) then he should retire from coaching. PJ is the Div I version of a used car salesman.
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Quote:This may be a news flash for you but EMU is likely to be much improved also.

I wouldn't expect them to be worse...

Quote:It's almost like you're implying that EMU is always the same 1-2 win team.

Yeah, actually you're spot on. It's not to bash EMU -- it's just "expectations". Kind of like folks assume NIU will be 8+ wins, despite Lynch and a 1st round draft pick DB gone, among a few others. And for the record, more like a 2-4 win team.

Quote:EMU will be improved this year by talent, depth, and an experienced coach that has never had a losing season in his 17 years of coaching as a HC.

That is a good point about the coach. However, it's EMU. Even if I was a hardcore EMU fan (or especially if I was) -- the burden of proof is on EMU during the first few games. Expecting a HC to come in and turn around EMU overnight is Way too optimistic. Even if he is a great HC, there will be short-term downsides along with the upsides of not losing any key talent on your squad after last year. And remember, he hasn't won a game at EMU yet, just as he hasn't had a losing season as a HC.

Quote:If CC can't outcoach PJ the Elite one (read arrogant) then he should retire from coaching. PJ is the Div I version of a used car salesman.

If the argument is who is a better coach, at this point *I'm* not going to be optimistic -- so yeah, by default I would say you'd have to point to CC. PJ has his bomb of a 1st year. He's inspirational, motivational, etc -- but can he construct a decent team and be a good COACH/Designer? We shall see.

But the WMU team is going to improve. And to think that EMU will beat WMU without any doubts? After the used car salesman coached WMU and it was a barn burner on your home turf last year? And now with a new coach going on WMU's turf? That's being way too (optimistically) assumptive. It's a solid Can win -- not a Will win, like one would put on UMass or a D1AA school.
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(08-11-2014 02:49 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:This may be a news flash for you but EMU is likely to be much improved also.

I wouldn't expect them to be worse...

Quote:It's almost like you're implying that EMU is always the same 1-2 win team.

Yeah, actually you're spot on. It's not to bash EMU -- it's just "expectations". Kind of like folks assume NIU will be 8+ wins, despite Lynch and a 1st round draft pick DB gone, among a few others. And for the record, more like a 2-4 win team.

Quote:EMU will be improved this year by talent, depth, and an experienced coach that has never had a losing season in his 17 years of coaching as a HC.

That is a good point about the coach. However, it's EMU. Even if I was a hardcore EMU fan (or especially if I was) -- the burden of proof is on EMU during the first few games. Expecting a HC to come in and turn around EMU overnight is Way too optimistic. Even if he is a great HC, there will be short-term downsides along with the upsides of not losing any key talent on your squad after last year. And remember, he hasn't won a game at EMU yet, just as he hasn't had a losing season as a HC.

Quote:If CC can't outcoach PJ the Elite one (read arrogant) then he should retire from coaching. PJ is the Div I version of a used car salesman.

If the argument is who is a better coach, at this point *I'm* not going to be optimistic -- so yeah, by default I would say you'd have to point to CC. PJ has his bomb of a 1st year. He's inspirational, motivational, etc -- but can he construct a decent team and be a good COACH/Designer? We shall see.

But the WMU team is going to improve. And to think that EMU will beat WMU without any doubts? After the used car salesman coached WMU and it was a barn burner on your home turf last year? And now with a new coach going on WMU's turf? That's being way too (optimistically) assumptive. It's a solid Can win -- not a Will win, like one would put on UMass or a D1AA school.

Agreed. There is a lot of optimism in Ypsi (me being included) but when being realistic, what game is REALLY a gimme type game ? The answer is none. We have the possibility of finding 6 wins.... but we have a TON of question marks here, with the defense being the main concern.

Bottom line, you would think that the talent that WMU has gained over the past couple seasons would start to pay off.... If it fails to show this year, then they will have some major questions over there in KZOO.
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My prediction: IDK (I don't know).

My view seems to be that we have more talent than one would expect of a 2 - 10 team so we have 'upside'.

My guess is that the ODU game is critical. If we win that shows that we have possibilities (and would be 2 - 2 in the OOC and a 5 - 7 or 6 - 6 overall record is very possible, even likely).

If not, it means we might beat some scuffling teams or a team whose boat has taken on water (pun intended) but it will be another mediocre season.

This team needs to beat a top tier MAC team, e.g., NIU, Toledo, etc. to prove something.

BTW, re: WMU. WMU has a chance to be really improved in year II. One thing about their frosh: Their frosh are mostly three stars (more than half). Three star players could contribute immediately (that is our history with the three star recruits RE brought in). CC didn't bring in the highly regarded class like PJ so we can't make a similar statement about our recruiting class. We have a few '3-star' (really???) prospects, but two are lineman so they should redshirt.

So a statement about frosh contributions for the 2014 WMU and 2014 EMU classes would be different. WMU's recruiting class is as good of a MAC FB recruiting class in my memory (going back over 20 years).

I stand by the statement that the overwhelming majority of our 2014 high school recruits should be redshirted, esp players who play OL and DL which usually require a lot of strength development.
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But whether they are three star or two star freshmen WMU has inexperience on both sides of the line. EMU has an experienced OL and some experience on the DL.
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(08-12-2014 06:20 AM)emu79 Wrote:  But whether they are three star or two star freshmen WMU has inexperience on both sides of the line. EMU has an experienced OL and some experience on the DL.

A WMU fan can address this issue (if they are still out there posting here), but Western had injuries of near 'Biblical proportions' in August and some believed their season was over before it even began.

WMU could be (my guess) the most improved team in the MAC this year.

Their returnees who were redshirted (medical) last year, alone makes WMU a much improved team.
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This thread should provide some viewpoints:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-698032.html
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(08-12-2014 08:48 AM)emu79 Wrote:  This thread should provide some viewpoints:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-698032.html

I'll do some checking in the mags. Most are bad, but Blue Ribbon, when it comes out, is excellent.

In the pre-Internet era Blue Ribbon was the bible for college coaches - their best source of info on other teams.
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(08-11-2014 10:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  If CC can't outcoach PJ the Elite one (read arrogant) then he should retire from coaching. PJ is the Div I version of a used car salesman.
Great recruiter though.
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(08-12-2014 08:16 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(08-12-2014 06:20 AM)emu79 Wrote:  But whether they are three star or two star freshmen WMU has inexperience on both sides of the line. EMU has an experienced OL and some experience on the DL.

A WMU fan can address this issue (if they are still out there posting here), but Western had injuries of near 'Biblical proportions' in August and some believed their season was over before it even began.

WMU could be (my guess) the most improved team in the MAC this year.

Their returnees who were redshirted (medical) last year, alone makes WMU a much improved team.
They are definitely trending UP.
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