You can tell it's off season......

(07-01-2014 01:52 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:44 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Not to rain on this parade of sheer ECU delusion, but here are some fan base numbers for you... and they are for FOOTBALL only!

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09...blogs&_r=0

UConn: 618,724 football fans
(look under the Big East conference breakdown, about 60% down the page)

ECU: 348,391 football fans
(look under the CUSA conference breakdown, about 80% down the page)

Conclusion: While ECU may beat UConn for gameday attendance, ECU's football fanbase is dwarfed by UConn's! Add basketball to the mix and UConn's fanbase is much much larger!

You can rely on hypothetical equations of google data, small survey's and conjecture, I'd take the people [b]paying 60 bucks a tickets and their time to show it[/b]. Like the other guy said, there is no way in hell USM has a better following than we do.

Uconn made 11 million last year on football revenue in 2013
#facts

34,676 ave attendance x 7(games played)= tickets sold 242,732/11 million= $45 dollars per ticket average

Ecu made 8.6(latest number I have seen) million year in 2013
43.5K attendance X 6(games played)= 261,000-270000(margin for error, always something with ECU fans)

Average ECU tickets= $33 ($33-37 If I missed something)

So you can say what you want about about uconn football, but either way they bring it. They pay more than ECU fans to see a game and they have an additional game. In years past ECU has had a chance to add a 7th game but admin/fans wore worried about the price of an additional game. Also Uconn did this in a down year while ECU has one its best seasons to date.

Based on price per game and lack of wins, its pretty clear uconn in its short time @FBS has created more demand for its tickets than ECU. #FACTS

(07-01-2014 08:09 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:52 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:44 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Not to rain on this parade of sheer ECU delusion, but here are some fan base numbers for you... and they are for FOOTBALL only!

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09...blogs&_r=0

UConn: 618,724 football fans
(look under the Big East conference breakdown, about 60% down the page)

ECU: 348,391 football fans
(look under the CUSA conference breakdown, about 80% down the page)

Conclusion: While ECU may beat UConn for gameday attendance, ECU's football fanbase is dwarfed by UConn's! Add basketball to the mix and UConn's fanbase is much much larger!

You can rely on hypothetical equations of google data, small survey's and conjecture, I'd take the people [b]paying 60 bucks a tickets and their time to show it[/b]. Like the other guy said, there is no way in hell USM has a better following than we do.

Uconn made 11 million last year on football revenue in 2013
#facts

34,676 ave attendance x 7(games played)= tickets sold 242,732/11 million= $45 dollars per ticket average

Ecu made 8.6(latest number I have seen) million year in 2013
43.5K attendance X 6(games played)= 261,000-270000(margin for error, always something with ECU fans)

Average ECU tickets= $33 ($33-37 If I missed something)

So you can say what you want about about uconn football, but either way they bring it. They pay more than ECU fans to see a game and they have an additional game. In years past ECU has had a chance to add a 7th game but admin/fans wore worried about the price of an additional game. Also Uconn did this in a down year while ECU has one its best seasons to date.

Based on price per game and lack of wins, its pretty clear uconn in its short time @FBS has created more demand for its tickets than ECU. #FACTS

This seems to suggest your tickets are overpriced or bundled with basketball season tickets....or both.

(07-01-2014 06:49 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  UNC Charlotte Football is destined to fail and fail big time. It is going to be painful for 49er fans to watch, but you guys are going to be bad for decades. To think that the program will be ready to compete at the FBS level by 2015 is a cluster you know what. Enjoy watching fan support and millions of dollars go away. But hey, have fun on this board okay.

FBS will be a tough road for us, no argument there but the fans will never give up on the program....we built it from the ground up.


If you want to talk about decades upon decades of failure, you should talk about ECU basketball.

(07-01-2014 08:43 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 06:49 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  UNC Charlotte Football is destined to fail and fail big time. It is going to be painful for 49er fans to watch, but you guys are going to be bad for decades. To think that the program will be ready to compete at the FBS level by 2015 is a cluster you know what. Enjoy watching fan support and millions of dollars go away. But hey, have fun on this board okay.

FBS will be a tough road for us, no argument there but the fans will never give up on the program....we built it from the ground up.


If you want to talk about decades upon decades of failure, you should talk about ECU basketball.

49er for the win

(07-01-2014 02:34 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 02:29 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:44 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Not to rain on this parade of sheer ECU delusion, but here are some fan base numbers for you... and they are for FOOTBALL only!

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09...blogs&_r=0

UConn: 618,724 football fans
(look under the Big East conference breakdown, about 60% down the page)

ECU: 348,391 football fans
(look under the CUSA conference breakdown, about 80% down the page)

Conclusion: While ECU may beat UConn for gameday attendance, ECU's football fanbase is dwarfed by UConn's! Add basketball to the mix and UConn's fanbase is much much larger!

Not so fast my friend, that is data taken from metered markets only. In NC there are only two metered markets, Raleigh and Charlotte. That means he has NO data for eastern NC, an area with a total population of 2.2 million people and there is no data on how many of them are watching ECU games. That is also the area where most of our fans and alumni are located. So they could easly be missing several hundred thousand viewers from there stats.

The fact is when we are on ESPN, we out draw NC State in viewers in Raleigh and draw nearly as many as UNC and that's in State's home market and not ours.

I wonder if UConn has any mythical "unmetered markets" as well. I believe that Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and unicorns all watch these unmetered markets.

There is nothing "mythical" about it. Not all media markets are metered, in NC there are only 2 Raleigh and Charlotte, neither is ECU's home market, neither has the largest group of ECU's fans, that would the 3 unmetered markets east of I-95.

Are going to seriously tell me that Soutern Miss, Troy, has more fans than ECU?

Duke has more fans than NC State, Vandy, UofL?

This rankings fails in so many ways it's funny. No accounting for unmetered markets, game times/days, networks, network availability, network promotion of games or lack there of.

The only way to truely know is for every market to metered, balance the networks, game times and days, then you might be able to get an accurate ranking.

ECU fans arguing with UConn and UNC-Charlotte fans should tell you exactly where their program is in relation to the rest.

(07-01-2014 04:43 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 02:21 PM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:44 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:30 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Btw this was a fun map to play with for people looking at college fanbases

http://commoncensus.org/sports_hotspot.p...93&sport=5

Guess that cool little map doesn't know that Charlotte has more than 50K alums in Mecklenburg county alone.

No one and I mean NO ONE gives a crap about UNC-Charlotte! UNC-Charlotte is UAB with a it's own football stadium.

Please keep telling yourself that.

Ah, ECU's left field megaphone tweeter feed (fan run, by me) has more follows than Charlotte's official football tweeter account. 263 to 140ish, Just say'n

(07-01-2014 08:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 08:09 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:52 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:44 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Not to rain on this parade of sheer ECU delusion, but here are some fan base numbers for you... and they are for FOOTBALL only!

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09...blogs&_r=0

UConn: 618,724 football fans
(look under the Big East conference breakdown, about 60% down the page)

ECU: 348,391 football fans
(look under the CUSA conference breakdown, about 80% down the page)

Conclusion: While ECU may beat UConn for gameday attendance, ECU's football fanbase is dwarfed by UConn's! Add basketball to the mix and UConn's fanbase is much much larger!

You can rely on hypothetical equations of google data, small survey's and conjecture, I'd take the people [b]paying 60 bucks a tickets and their time to show it[/b]. Like the other guy said, there is no way in hell USM has a better following than we do.

Uconn made 11 million last year on football revenue in 2013
#facts

34,676 ave attendance x 7(games played)= tickets sold 242,732/11 million= $45 dollars per ticket average

Ecu made 8.6(latest number I have seen) million year in 2013
43.5K attendance X 6(games played)= 261,000-270000(margin for error, always something with ECU fans)

Average ECU tickets= $33 ($33-37 If I missed something)

So you can say what you want about about uconn football, but either way they bring it. They pay more than ECU fans to see a game and they have an additional game. In years past ECU has had a chance to add a 7th game but admin/fans wore worried about the price of an additional game. Also Uconn did this in a down year while ECU has one its best seasons to date.

Based on price per game and lack of wins, its pretty clear uconn in its short time @FBS has created more demand for its tickets than ECU. #FACTS

This seems to suggest your tickets are overpriced or bundled with basketball season tickets....or both.

Does not suggest anything other than anyone paying $60( average for ECU) per ticket is over paying when the average price is $35ish vs $45 for uconn tickets. Uconn football fans are loyal and should be recognized for that. Most people would not sit in cold conditions for a 3-9 team.

Uconn fans pay more per ticket than ECU fans

This is not bundled just based on football season tickets and football revenue for both teams.

(07-01-2014 08:43 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 06:49 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  UNC Charlotte Football is destined to fail and fail big time. It is going to be painful for 49er fans to watch, but you guys are going to be bad for decades. To think that the program will be ready to compete at the FBS level by 2015 is a cluster you know what. Enjoy watching fan support and millions of dollars go away. But hey, have fun on this board okay.

FBS will be a tough road for us, no argument there but the fans will never give up on the program....we built it from the ground up.


If you want to talk about decades upon decades of failure, you should talk about ECU basketball.

It's only failure when you actually try, for decades we didn't. Fact. We did give the team the budget, facilities.

We are now, check back in 3-5 years, then we'll talk.

(07-01-2014 08:43 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 06:49 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  UNC Charlotte Football is destined to fail and fail big time. It is going to be painful for 49er fans to watch, but you guys are going to be bad for decades. To think that the program will be ready to compete at the FBS level by 2015 is a cluster you know what. Enjoy watching fan support and millions of dollars go away. But hey, have fun on this board okay.

FBS will be a tough road for us, no argument there but the fans will never give up on the program....we built it from the ground up.


If you want to talk about decades upon decades of failure, you should talk about ECU basketball.

I know it was tough getting kicked out of CUSA, but you have bounced back nicely to land in CUSA, Good things will come your way

(07-01-2014 08:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 08:43 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 06:49 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  UNC Charlotte Football is destined to fail and fail big time. It is going to be painful for 49er fans to watch, but you guys are going to be bad for decades. To think that the program will be ready to compete at the FBS level by 2015 is a cluster you know what. Enjoy watching fan support and millions of dollars go away. But hey, have fun on this board okay.

FBS will be a tough road for us, no argument there but the fans will never give up on the program....we built it from the ground up.


If you want to talk about decades upon decades of failure, you should talk about ECU basketball.

49er for the win

If winning is going backwards 20 years to a little league version of CUSA then I don't want to be winning.

They can say whatever they want about our basketball, football is the big boy sport that drives the bus but even our basketball has a higher RPI this last generation of college students and 4 years of our current coaches, which is really the only history that matters at this point as guys like the 2002 Bobby Lutz or 2006 Ricky Stokes neither are comeing back or impact anything at this point.

We got just as much to offer or more as a basketball program these days and with what we spend, investing in practice facilites etc. Maybe that wasn't always the case when we sucked but no one cares what you did even 10 years ago much less 20 or 30, look no farther than SMU basketball.

Get the right coach, throw some money at the program and there you go. Football is a much tougher nut to crack. You don't just grab a couple impact players like McDonalds All Americans and off you go. Lot more moving parts , money, staff, and infrastructure to maintain you need to be successful. I'd put my money on us having relevant basketball before I'd ever put it on UNCC football. Hell even before they get relevant basketball again.

(07-01-2014 08:55 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 08:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 08:09 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:52 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:44 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Not to rain on this parade of sheer ECU delusion, but here are some fan base numbers for you... and they are for FOOTBALL only!

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09...blogs&_r=0

UConn: 618,724 football fans
(look under the Big East conference breakdown, about 60% down the page)

ECU: 348,391 football fans
(look under the CUSA conference breakdown, about 80% down the page)

Conclusion: While ECU may beat UConn for gameday attendance, ECU's football fanbase is dwarfed by UConn's! Add basketball to the mix and UConn's fanbase is much much larger!

You can rely on hypothetical equations of google data, small survey's and conjecture, I'd take the people [b]paying 60 bucks a tickets and their time to show it[/b]. Like the other guy said, there is no way in hell USM has a better following than we do.

Uconn made 11 million last year on football revenue in 2013
#facts

34,676 ave attendance x 7(games played)= tickets sold 242,732/11 million= $45 dollars per ticket average

Ecu made 8.6(latest number I have seen) million year in 2013
43.5K attendance X 6(games played)= 261,000-270000(margin for error, always something with ECU fans)

Average ECU tickets= $33 ($33-37 If I missed something)

So you can say what you want about about uconn football, but either way they bring it. They pay more than ECU fans to see a game and they have an additional game. In years past ECU has had a chance to add a 7th game but admin/fans wore worried about the price of an additional game. Also Uconn did this in a down year while ECU has one its best seasons to date.

Based on price per game and lack of wins, its pretty clear uconn in its short time @FBS has created more demand for its tickets than ECU. #FACTS

This seems to suggest your tickets are overpriced or bundled with basketball season tickets....or both.

Does not suggest anything other than anyone paying $60( average for ECU) per ticket is over paying when the average price is $35ish vs $45 for uconn tickets. Uconn football fans are loyal and should be recognized for that. Most people would not sit in cold conditions for a 3-9 team.

Uconn fans pay more per ticket than ECU fans

This is not bundled just based on football season tickets and football revenue for both teams.

No if math is off, because he didn't account for student tickets, average 12,000 per game and $$$ suites wich we don't have. Those suites can make a huge difference. Several million dollars worth. Wake Forrest is a prime example, smaller stadium, 36,000 and change, added a new press box and suites, those suites added 5 million a year in revenue. Something we need to do badly.

Oh, and we have not had the chance to add a 7th home game, ever.

(07-01-2014 08:55 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 08:24 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 08:09 PM)Piratelife4me Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:52 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 01:44 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Not to rain on this parade of sheer ECU delusion, but here are some fan base numbers for you... and they are for FOOTBALL only!

http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09...blogs&_r=0

UConn: 618,724 football fans
(look under the Big East conference breakdown, about 60% down the page)

ECU: 348,391 football fans
(look under the CUSA conference breakdown, about 80% down the page)

Conclusion: While ECU may beat UConn for gameday attendance, ECU's football fanbase is dwarfed by UConn's! Add basketball to the mix and UConn's fanbase is much much larger!

You can rely on hypothetical equations of google data, small survey's and conjecture, I'd take the people [b]paying 60 bucks a tickets and their time to show it[/b]. Like the other guy said, there is no way in hell USM has a better following than we do.

Uconn made 11 million last year on football revenue in 2013
#facts

34,676 ave attendance x 7(games played)= tickets sold 242,732/11 million= $45 dollars per ticket average

Ecu made 8.6(latest number I have seen) million year in 2013
43.5K attendance X 6(games played)= 261,000-270000(margin for error, always something with ECU fans)

Average ECU tickets= $33 ($33-37 If I missed something)

So you can say what you want about about uconn football, but either way they bring it. They pay more than ECU fans to see a game and they have an additional game. In years past ECU has had a chance to add a 7th game but admin/fans wore worried about the price of an additional game. Also Uconn did this in a down year while ECU has one its best seasons to date.

Based on price per game and lack of wins, its pretty clear uconn in its short time @FBS has created more demand for its tickets than ECU. #FACTS

This seems to suggest your tickets are overpriced or bundled with basketball season tickets....or both.

Does not suggest anything other than anyone paying $60( average for ECU) per ticket is over paying when the average price is $35ish vs $45 for uconn tickets. Uconn football fans are loyal and should be recognized for that. Most people would not sit in cold conditions for a 3-9 team.

Uconn fans pay more per ticket than ECU fans

This is not bundled just based on football season tickets and football revenue for both teams.

60 bucks was just stating the face value of some of the games, of course not everyone is paying that. I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from but there is a difference in football revenue and football ticket sales. Revenue in the Big East/AAC compared to CUSA certainly would have something to do with that. Good point was also made about student tickets and suites.

No one is going to argue about UConn's funding/revenue period. They live in one of the wealthiest states, they are the stateflagship of and have a national budget that almost doubles ours. Hell I haven't even said they didn't have a better fanbase.

I think they certainly SHOULD with all the advantages of a stateflagship university, years of playing in the Big East etc. The fact there is even a conversation in the big boy sport says a lot about what we've done at ECU. I'd also throw Memphis in that mix as well. They might even have a more impressive overall fanbase than UConn and certainly UCF and USF as schools are just massive in general. The point wasn't wrong, we got a big fanbase though so you better get used to us.

Where are those $35 tickets. Mine are always between $50- $60

(07-01-2014 08:52 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Ah, ECU's left field megaphone tweeter feed (fan run, by me) has more follows than Charlotte's official football tweeter account. 263 to 140ish, Just say'n

We are counting twitter followers now? Ok, Charlotte's athletic department has 13.8K followers and ECU's athletic department has 11.1K.


Just saying. Oh and just for an FYI the Charlotte football account was created June 5th.

(07-01-2014 09:36 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(07-01-2014 08:52 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Ah, ECU's left field megaphone tweeter feed (fan run, by me) has more follows than Charlotte's official football tweeter account. 263 to 140ish, Just say'n

We are counting twitter followers now? Ok, Charlotte's AD has 13.8K followers and ECU's AD has 11.1K.


Just saying.

Just threw it out there in jest.

(07-01-2014 01:45 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Hey if you head back to the CUSA board right now; maybe that idiot UAB fan Dracorex can explain to you how Charlotte's OOC schedule prevented UAB from playing in the NCAA tournament last year. Yeah me and you both know that Charlotte's OOC had nothing to do with UAB being sub .500 in conference play, but hey the guy had a chart; a pencil with an eraser and some time on his hand.

AWW I miss you too Marv.

My original quote was something along the lines of how the RPI of ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa were hurting the entire conference in getting multiple bids. It wasn't just ECU, Tulane and Tulsa that it was directed towards. It was towards every team with a RPI worse than 150. During December even Tulsa's RPI was 150+. (This was also right after we had just beat UNC and as a fan I felt like we had a chance to run through CUSA). CUSA's RPI will improve with the removal of ECU and Tulane. For that reason I'm kind of glad they are in the AAC.

We of course fell apart in conference play and Marv hasn't let it go since.

Just wait until Marv tries to prove that ECU will be a competitive basketball program in your conference. ECU ended up in like 13th place last year as much as he claimed that they would be a top 5 team. Every thread about CUSA basketball ended up in the smack board because of that clown.

Most of the negativity on the CUSA board towards ECU comes from the Marv and SJ. I personally liked my time in the conference with most of the ECU fans I shared the CUSA board with. It was just a matter of those two staying on the board long after their welcome.

P.S. Jonesing I have you on ignore so if you reply I won't see it.

I have no ill will towards any school that joined the AAC.

(07-01-2014 12:28 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Cali_Cat Online
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How did you guys deal with them??? Those guys are unbearable!!!

Next week he'll be a Tulsa fan... Geez...

ECU hoop will be fine. This league is going to be really good in hoop and as long as ECU is as committed to basketball as football, they will compete in a few years. While I don't expect ECU hoop to regularly reside at the top of the conference (ECU fans are clearly about their football first and foremost), they should at least be able to play competitively against most schools from the P5, AAC, MWC, Big East and A-10.

Take a deep breath everyone. A rising tide lifts all boats.
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