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George H. W. Bush being involved would be a real stretch. At the time of the break-ins he was ambassador to the UN. Prior to that he was a US Representative. He became chairman of the Republican Party, but that was six months after the last break-in.
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(09-11-2014 05:00 PM)UofM_Tiger Wrote:  George H. W. Bush … became chairman of the Republican Party, but that was six months after the last break-in.
That's right, Bush was Chairman of the RNC from January 1973 to September 1974. His wife Barbara used to joke that people would talk about him as if he had died. So, if he agreed to work with the RNC even though he knew that Watergate was about to explode, that would imply a degree of political masochism far beyond anything I've ever heard of…
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I didn't say it was true.. I just said it was one of those rumours I remember seeing.

It's amazing what you find at some of those tin-foil hat sites.
09-12-2014 12:37 PM
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DSF, sorry to be unclear… I wasn't trying to imply that you were believing that story. I was just stunned that it even reached the rumor-stage.

But I guess if some people believe that LBJ had a hand in arranging for the assassination of JFK, then some people are going to believe just about anything…
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Unfortunately, my favorite site i used to read these crazy stuffs on (AboveTopSecret) is blocked at the office for being "alternative media".
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100 question Watergate Quiz from the summer of 1974.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volok...gate-quiz/
10-29-2014 10:59 PM
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That's a great link, jh, thank you for posting that.

For those who at least skimmed over the article, note how it (both the Q's and the A's) involves minutely-detailed knowledge about the subject. Ask yourself how much time and attention -- in the pre-Internet, pre-CSPAN, pre-24-hour-news-channels, pre-personal-computers era -- a person would have to devote in order to acquire all of that knowledge necessary to compile the quiz. A realistic answer to that question sheds some light on what an incredible obsession "Watergate" was for the political class, and in fact for many Americans in general. The peak of the obsession lasted about two full years (~April '73 to ~April '75), and for some it never fully subsided.

The author (of the linked-article, not of the original quiz which was created in 1974) David Kopel writes that "In my view, Watergate is a positive story." Virtually every liberal that I have ever heard (or read) express an opinion about Watergate is in agreement with that. In fact, to them, Watergate was not just "a positive story" but loads of fun. They enjoyed it thoroughly, wanted it to continue, and were let down when the public's attention finally drifted on to other subjects. Something to remember when you hear them describe Watergate as "needless agony" or as "our long national nightmare". So it was -- for Nixon and his supporters. Not in the least for the people who hate(d) him.
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We could get what is on the 15 minutes of deleted tape if we just did the rub etching method on Haldeman's notes. Is there a statute of limitations coming up on this stuff so we can finally get to the bottom of it. When will all the Kennedy stuff be released too? I don't understand why people still want to protect that info. It's been 40 odd years!
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(12-03-2014 08:09 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  We could get what is on the 15 minutes of deleted tape if we just did the rub etching method on Haldeman's notes. Is there a statute of limitations coming up on this stuff so we can finally get to the bottom of it. When will all the Kennedy stuff be released too? I don't understand why people still want to protect that info. It's been 40 odd years!
Fully agreed that anything -- absolutely anything -- should be released about the Kennedy shooting after 51 years.

The Nixon tapes (made from February 1971 to July 1973) are not in exactly the same category, but at this point the burden of proof should be on the side of "restrictionists" to show why a tape should not be made known to the public.

One of the main problems with the Nixon tapes is simply understanding the voices and spoken comments on them. It was little-realized by the public at the time, but a lot of these taped conversations are simply unintelligible. The tapes used were not state-of-the-art (even for that generation) and the listening devices were not (to say the least) positioned with acoustical clarity in mind. A clever judge could have given the convicted defendants the option of shorter sentences, in exchange for assisting with the compilation of complete, accurate, authorized transcripts of all the most significant conversations. Alas, the judge who had the authority to do this (Sirica) was anything but "clever".
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So it seems that the History Forum is pretty much dead in the water. I hope it will be left in place, though. I actually intend to save a lot of the comments I've made on this thread and some of the others
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