(04-21-2015 05:39 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 05:10 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The U.S. would be a far better place without illegals.

You aren't going to cut your own lawn, pick that devious fruit or make that Margarita.

Really?

(04-21-2015 01:36 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 01:32 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  U.S. Frees 36,007 Illegal Aliens With Serious Criminal Convictions

You libs just ignore the thousands of illegal immigrants with criminal records being released in this country. We won't....

Quote:Besides implementing a flagrant amnesty plan that defies Congress and the rule of law, the Obama administration freed tens of thousands of illegal immigrants convicted of violent and serious crimes last year, according to the government’s own records.

The crimes committed by illegal aliens released from federal custody include homicide, sexual assault, theft, kidnapping and alcohol-related driving convictions. In all, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) freed 36,007 aliens convicted of 88,000 crimes from detention centers throughout the United States, according the breathtaking agency records, which were obtained this month by a nonpartisan research center dedicated to studying immigration issues.

The Washington D.C.-based group, Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), published a chart with a breakdown of the crimes committed by the illegal aliens who now roam freely in unsuspecting U.S. neighborhoods. Of interesting note is that the majority of the releases from ICE custody were discretionary, CIS found, which means they weren’t required by law. In some instances the releases were actually contrary to law and local illegal immigrant sanctuary policies did not play a role in the vast majority. This indicates that it’s part of the Obama administration’s broader amnesty policy, which has favored letting illegal aliens live outside detention centers while their cases get resolved.

Let’s take a look at the breakdown of crimes committed by this latest batch of freed illegal aliens. The records show that more than 16,000 were convicted of driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Over 9,000 had dangerous drug convictions, 1,075 were convicted of aggravated assault, 426 of sexual assault and 193 of homicide. Additionally, the records show that 1,160 of the freed illegal immigrants had stolen vehicle convictions, 303 kidnapping convictions and 303 flight escape convictions.

Thousands of others were convicted of lesser crimes that are nevertheless serious enough to merit detention if you’re already in the country illegally. Those offenses include extortion, embezzlement, arson, domestic violence, property crimes, larceny, burglary, intimidation, obstructing police, weapon offenses, forgery, obstructing the judiciary and a variety of fraud. Those who take the time to read the entire list may find it difficult to imagine that the government would even consider freeing these offenders.

Incredibly, it’s not the first time this happens. The feds previously released 68,000 different criminal aliens encountered by ICE officers in jails that were let go instead of processed for deportation, according to records obtained by CIS. This latest batch of 36,007 is a group of aliens who were being processed for removal and were freed while awaiting the final disposition of their cases. Despite their serious criminal convictions, they were released by means of bond, order of recognizance, order of supervision, parole or alternative detention such as an ankle bracelet.

“The document raises questions about the Obama administration’s management of enforcement resources, as well as its enforcement plans and priorities,” CIS logically concludes. As examples, the group offers a recent ICE directive (prosecutorial discretion) and policy (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) which make broad categories of illegal immigrants immune to enforcement. “These policies have forced ICE officers in the field to avoid or cease deportation action in thousands of cases, even in cases of aliens charged with or convicted of crimes,” CIS reveals.

This is hardly the first time that the government rewards illegal immigrants with serious criminal records. Last summer Judicial Watch reported that legislation crafted by the bipartisan Gang of Eight in the U.S. Senate would grant amnesty to illegal aliens with drunk-driving, domestic violence, aggravated assault and child abuse convictions. In its report JW noted that groups that would normally be vocal on these sorts of issues remained silent. As an example we offered the nation’s largest organization working to stop drunk driving and support victims of the violent crime—Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD)—which refused to criticize the proposed law even though it will essentially reward those convicted of driving dunk. Through a spokeswoman, MADD said it “doesn’t get involved in immigration matters.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/0...nvictions/

In all legitimacy, I haven't looked through this but even if it turns out to be a totally misleading headline, I wouldn't have had a problem with it being posted as a thread. At least it's an attempt to show some sort of issue instead of a post that is basically 'LOOK AT THIS HISPANIC CRIMINAL WHO DID SOME HORRIFIC THING NOW I'LL BLAME OBAMA'.

It was brought up when it occurred and if i remember correctly conservative here were pretty much accused of fear-mongering for doing so.

As far as your last statement, it could be entirely plausible to blame obama if this guy came here because he had heard Obama was going to grant amnesty to illegals. I doubt we will ever know for sure one way or another. In do agree we dont need a thread every time an illegal commits a crime, but one can certainly make the point that if current US immigration laws were inforced and border security increased, each illegal that commits a crime may not have been in the US to commit it in the first place.

(04-21-2015 05:39 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 05:10 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The U.S. would be a far better place without illegals.

You aren't going to cut your own lawn, pick that devious fruit or make that Margarita.

I've always mowed my own lawn and I don't drink alcohol. I do have fruit occasionally.

(04-21-2015 05:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 05:39 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 05:10 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  The U.S. would be a far better place without illegals.

You aren't going to cut your own lawn, pick that devious fruit or make that Margarita.

Really?

Why do you hate margaritas?

(04-21-2015 05:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 04:21 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Wouldn't say that completely debunks it.

It does completely debunk the story as it was relayed, if they don't even track this number, the original story was a falsehood.

A press secretary and a representative said they don't. Someone else may have dug a wee bit deeper but I understand, opinion staff aren't exactly hard hitting investigative journalists.

As I said I wouldn't say it completely debunks it.

(04-21-2015 06:51 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 05:05 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 04:21 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Wouldn't say that completely debunks it.

It does completely debunk the story as it was relayed, if they don't even track this number, the original story was a falsehood.

A press secretary and a representative said they don't. Someone else may have dug a wee bit deeper but I understand, opinion staff aren't exactly hard hitting investigative journalists.

As I said I wouldn't say it completely debunks it.

Looking at the sources, I should agree with you that it doesn't completely debunk it, but certainly puts the burden of proof on the person claiming that original story is real.

What percent of ERC's tripe is legit. 10%?

Obama Regime Admits Granting Amnesty To Known Gang Member Who Then Went On To Murder 4 People

Quote:The Obama administration is admitting it granted executive amnesty protections to a known gang member — one charged with four counts of murder — and is now reviewing prior approvals to double check that other gang members have not also been approved for deferred status.

In a letter to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) dated Friday, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Leon Rodriguez explains that Emmanuel Jesus Rangel-Hernandez’s request for deferred status under President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program “should not have been approved” based on standard procedure.

Rangel-Hernandez is currently charged with the murder of four people, including former “America’s Next Top Model” contestant Mirjana Puhar.

On Tuesday Grassley released the letter and said it confirmed his fears, that USCIS is not being careful enough in adjudicating applications for Obama’s DACA program.

“It’s no secret that USCIS staff is under intense pressure to approve every DACA application that comes across their desk, and based on this information, it’s clear that adequate protocols are not in place to protect public safety,” Grassley said.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...r-amnesty/

Shoulda murdered those people in his own country. Thanks Obama.

(04-21-2015 09:32 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Shoulda murdered those people in his own country. Thanks Obama.

Now you're thinking.