Visited with those fine folks on their message board and one thing is certain, they do not view themselves as like the other four G5 (and don't like that term at all) Conferences .

Can't argue that they are ahead of the other G5's in most measurable, but are they as a conference destined to rejoin the top group, or are they a conference that will have its better teams poached as needed?

The AAC raids the ACC for Florida St and Clemson. Takes the ACC place in the P5.

I think 99.999% of this board will agree with me when I say: If an AAC team is needed to move up, they're going to move up.

(06-30-2014 06:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Can't argue that they are ahead of the other G5's in most measurable, but are they as a conference destined to rejoin the top group,

This article from Tulsa makes it clear that the AAC intends to do just that: http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/jo...1440a.html

You are a G5 conference

#deal with it......

(06-30-2014 07:39 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  I think 99.999% of this board will agree with me when I say: If an AAC team is needed to move up, they're going to move up.

I assume I'm included in the 99.999%, but I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that any AAC team would leave it in a heartbeat if a P5 conference came calling? I would agree with that. So, when Aresco suggests that the AAC is on the verge of being considered on a par with the P5, he's just whistling past the graveyard, hoping nobody leaves.

I wouldn't agree that the AAC is clearly the sixth strongest conference, at least not in the sport that drives realignment - football. They may be ahead of the MWC, but not by very much. The difference between a sixth place AAC and a seventh place MWC is small. The difference between a sixth place AAC and whoever you consider the fifth place P5 conference is vast.

As for its future, the AAC has no place to go but down. If they grow by poaching other G5 schools, they don't improve - at least not relative to the P5. To the extent they grow at the expense of another G5 conference, they are no longer just the tallest midget in the FBS. Now they are a tall midget with lifts in their shoes.

More likely is the possibility that some of their top teams might flee - just like the top teams in the Big East did. And that will (quickly) widen the gap between them and the P5. There is nothing the AAC can do, now or in the future, that will elevate them to the status of the P5. Their only hope for that is that some judicial or legislative act will reduce the competitive and financial strength of the P5 conferences.

(06-30-2014 08:06 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:39 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  I think 99.999% of this board will agree with me when I say: If an AAC team is needed to move up, they're going to move up.

I assume I'm included in the 99.999%, but I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that any AAC team would leave it in a heartbeat if a P5 conference came calling? I would agree with that. So, when Aresco suggests that the AAC is on the verge of being considered on a par with the P5, he's just whistling past the graveyard, hoping nobody leaves.

I wouldn't agree that the AAC is clearly the sixth strongest conference, at least not in the sport that drives realignment - football. They may be ahead of the MWC, but not by very much. The difference between a sixth place AAC and a seventh place MWC is small. The difference between a sixth place AAC and whoever you consider the fifth place P5 conference is vast.

As for its future, the AAC has no place to go but down. If they grow by poaching other G5 schools, they don't improve - at least not relative to the P5. To the extent they grow at the expense of another G5 conference, they are no longer just the tallest midget in the FBS. Now they are a tall midget with lifts in their shoes.

More likely is the possibility that some of their top teams might flee - just like the top teams in the Big East did. And that will (quickly) widen the gap between them and the P5. There is nothing the AAC can do, now or in the future, that will elevate them to the status of the P5. Their only hope for that is that some judicial or legislative act will reduce the competitive and financial strength of the P5 conferences.

Not going to argue all of these points, but yes you got my statement correct. However, "poachability" doesn't really have anything to do with power. I bet Kansas would leap to the B1G if given the opportunity. Maryland did. You don't see anyone using that against the B12/ACC.

It's just $$ at this point. The AAC just needs the $$$ to keep up. The exposure is there.

I believe the amount of money the Big 10, 12, ACC, Pac-12, and SEC will receive over the next 12 years will cause a major separation between those conferences and the others. We are talking a huge amount of money for coaches, staff and facilities which we make it difficult for those who do not share these revenue streams to keep up.

The AAC will be grouped with the rest as long as the rules stay the same. Could they change after the existing TV contracts are up? Who knows?

(06-30-2014 06:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Visited with those fine folks on their message board and one thing is certain, they do not view themselves as like the other four G5 (and don't like that term at all) Conferences .

Can't argue that they are ahead of the other G5's in most measurable, but are they as a conference destined to rejoin the top group, or are they a conference that will have its better teams poached as needed?

AAC and MWC are about equal. The separation touted by AAC schools is in their own minds to make themselves feel better about losing AQ status.

(06-30-2014 07:41 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 06:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Can't argue that they are ahead of the other G5's in most measurable, but are they as a conference destined to rejoin the top group,

This article from Tulsa makes it clear that the AAC intends to do just that: http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/jo...1440a.html

I really don't feel at this point a true breakaway from the NCAA will happen, but if they did I can see where it might open the door for the AAC to get in.

(06-30-2014 08:40 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 06:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Visited with those fine folks on their message board and one thing is certain, they do not view themselves as like the other four G5 (and don't like that term at all) Conferences .

Can't argue that they are ahead of the other G5's in most measurable, but are they as a conference destined to rejoin the top group, or are they a conference that will have its better teams poached as needed?

AAC and MWC are about equal. The separation touted by AAC schools is in their own minds to make themselves feel better about losing AQ status.

I'd say that top schools in both conferences are about the same. We both have also rans.

The real difference is in the middle and middle of the AAC is stronger/deeper than the middle of MWC. There are just more schools pulling down the SOS in the MWC than the AAC.

(06-30-2014 08:40 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 06:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Visited with those fine folks on their message board and one thing is certain, they do not view themselves as like the other four G5 (and don't like that term at all) Conferences .

Can't argue that they are ahead of the other G5's in most measurable, but are they as a conference destined to rejoin the top group, or are they a conference that will have its better teams poached as needed?

AAC and MWC are about equal. The separation touted by AAC schools is in their own minds to make themselves feel better about losing AQ status.

I don't want to start a D..k measuring contest or derail this thread...

The AAC and the MWC aren't about equal... The AAC league is the better conference, hands down.

Football is pretty close...but when it comes to Basketball it is no comparison...the AAC hands down and at least for the next few years they will make way more $$$ Through NCAA Tournament credits.

John and Ken will not have any talk of the AAC being a legit conference. It is cute. Even after all they have done. I guess you are that good, and the BCS system put you in the right place. Just ask Baylor...hehe!

AAC is still mostly where the Big East.

Not a real member of the Power Conference club but still better than the others.

The major difference is that the AAC does not have a Contract bowl (the new BCS bowls) and instead has to compete for an Access bowl (the new tier 2 bowls)

(06-30-2014 09:14 PM)Galleyrat Wrote:  John and Ken will not have any talk of the AAC being a legit conference. It is cute. Even after all they have done. I guess you are that good, and the BCS system put you in the right place. Just ask Baylor...hehe!

it's not a question about wether or not the AAC is a legit conference, they are a G5 conference......PERIOD.

(06-30-2014 10:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 09:14 PM)Galleyrat Wrote:  John and Ken will not have any talk of the AAC being a legit conference. It is cute. Even after all they have done. I guess you are that good, and the BCS system put you in the right place. Just ask Baylor...hehe!

it's not a question about wether or not the AAC is a legit conference, they are a G5 conference......PERIOD.

Says who, you? Before you start spouting off half-cocked on whatever angle you're trying to sell, I know who says we're G5. The strange thing is, I don't see your name anywhere on the list I have in front of me.

(06-30-2014 10:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 10:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 09:14 PM)Galleyrat Wrote:  John and Ken will not have any talk of the AAC being a legit conference. It is cute. Even after all they have done. I guess you are that good, and the BCS system put you in the right place. Just ask Baylor...hehe!

it's not a question about wether or not the AAC is a legit conference, they are a G5 conference......PERIOD.

Says who, you? Before you start spouting off half-cocked on whatever angle you're trying to sell, I know who says we're G5. The strange thing is, I don't see your name anywhere on the list I have in front of me.

sorry if reality is a B***h

but it is what it is

#G5 pride

(06-30-2014 08:43 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:41 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 06:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  Can't argue that they are ahead of the other G5's in most measurable, but are they as a conference destined to rejoin the top group,

This article from Tulsa makes it clear that the AAC intends to do just that: http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/jo...1440a.html

I really don't feel at this point a true breakaway from the NCAA will happen, but if they did I can see where it might open the door for the AAC to get in.

Wyoming,New Mexico,San jose,Nevada,Hawaii are from equal to AAC schools.

(06-30-2014 10:15 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 10:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 10:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 09:14 PM)Galleyrat Wrote:  John and Ken will not have any talk of the AAC being a legit conference. It is cute. Even after all they have done. I guess you are that good, and the BCS system put you in the right place. Just ask Baylor...hehe!

it's not a question about wether or not the AAC is a legit conference, they are a G5 conference......PERIOD.

Says who, you? Before you start spouting off half-cocked on whatever angle you're trying to sell, I know who says we're G5. The strange thing is, I don't see your name anywhere on the list I have in front of me.

sorry if reality is a B***h

but it is what it is

#G5 pride

#2014nationalchamps