2014 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC 1/3
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. ACC 12/26
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA 12/23
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC 12/27
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl, Fort Worth, Texas – vs. Army/Big 12 1/2
Bahamas Bowl, Nassau, Bahamas – vs. MAC 12/24

Am I correct on these? They really suck. I will not consider 12/23, 12/24, or 12/26 due to Christmas. Birmingham is horrible and Legion Field sucks and been there done that. That leaves 12/27 and 1/2. Play Army or Navy. Let's face it Army never can win 6 games so we will get a Sun Belt or something.

Man this sucks!

(06-28-2014 06:06 PM)dossbig Wrote:  2014 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC 1/3
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. ACC 12/26
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA 12/23
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC 12/27
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl, Fort Worth, Texas – vs. Army/Big 12 1/2
Bahamas Bowl, Nassau, Bahamas – vs. MAC 12/24

Am I correct on these? They really suck. I will not consider 12/23, 12/24, or 12/26 due to Christmas. Birmingham is horrible and Legion Field sucks and been there done that. That leaves 12/27 and 1/2. Play Army or Navy. Let's face it Army never can win 6 games so we will get a Sun Belt or something.

Man this sucks!

yup our bowl lineup is beyond horrible....which is why is't fricken hilarious to go to the main board and see all the sunshine and rainbow threads about how the AAC "should" be a P5 conference...hahaha our POS tv deal and these BS bowls say otherwise.

(06-28-2014 06:06 PM)dossbig Wrote:  2014 Season
BBVA Compass Bowl, Birmingham, Ala. – vs. SEC 1/3
Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl St. Petersburg, St. Petersburg, Fla. – vs. ACC 12/26
Miami Beach Bowl, Miami, Fla. – vs. Conference USA 12/23
Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, Annapolis, Md. – vs. ACC 12/27
Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl, Fort Worth, Texas – vs. Army/Big 12 1/2
Bahamas Bowl, Nassau, Bahamas – vs. MAC 12/24

Am I correct on these? They really suck. I will not consider 12/23, 12/24, or 12/26 due to Christmas. Birmingham is horrible and Legion Field sucks and been there done that. That leaves 12/27 and 1/2. Play Army or Navy. Let's face it Army never can win 6 games so we will get a Sun Belt or something.

Man this sucks!

The Miami Beach Bowl is against BYU. The conference isn't in the Bahamas bowl.

Earn the access bowl and the lineup isn't all that bad for the top three or four teams. No reason UC shouldn't be in the top group. There is a good chance UC will be playing against a top ten team if they are the best G5 champion. Other likely options include BYU, an ACC team in minor bowl, or an SEC team in a minor bowl. How is this different than what UC earned in a BCS conference over the last decade. UC's non-BCS game opponents were 6-6 power conference teams like Duke, North Carolina, and Vandy. Cats also played Southern Miss and Western Michigan. Earning the top bowl game is more difficult but UC isn't competing with Louisville or WVU anymore, no reason UC can't be the top dog in the American.

I can't believe I'm actually saying this (because I don't like it when others namecall), but the people who say "We have to stop bitching and crying, and support the Bearcats" are absolutely right!

(06-29-2014 07:53 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I can't believe I'm actually saying this (because I don't like it when others namecall), but the people who say "We have to stop bitching and crying, and support the Bearcats" are absolutely right!

Support the football Bearcats...absolutely! Season ticket holder for many, many years and make half of the road games each season. Always make the Bowl game. Front row Club seats next season at PBS - even with the poor home schedule. Once the ball is kicked off - always positive about my Bearcats on the field.

But to support the terrible conference UC's leadership (past and current) has allowed under their responsible watch - never. Years of minor league football will kill off all the good the Big East, BK, and the BCS bowls provided. Even the Liberty and Belk bowls helped raise our profile, but sadly those bowls are now out of our reach.

Always laugh at those whose only retort to the poor Bowl slate is that UC "just needs to be the best team of the G5." Hope those folks send notes out to ECU, Boise, UCF, BYU, and Houston to let them know that they are all playing for second place each and every season. Scoreboard shows one season in the AAC and zero championships.

Everything everyone's saying is true. We're in a bad situation but all we can do is act on the things we control - winning.

I'm sure Bohn and Ono are doing their best to change the situation but until that day comes, it's up to CTT and crew to get the team ready and win.

I'll always support my Bearcats as, I'm sure, everyone on this board will.

(06-30-2014 01:56 AM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 07:53 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I can't believe I'm actually saying this (because I don't like it when others namecall), but the people who say "We have to stop bitching and crying, and support the Bearcats" are absolutely right!

Support the football Bearcats...absolutely! Season ticket holder for many, many years and make half of the road games each season. Always make the Bowl game. Front row Club seats next season at PBS - even with the poor home schedule. Once the ball is kicked off - always positive about my Bearcats on the field.

But to support the terrible conference UC's leadership (past and current) has allowed under their responsible watch - never. Years of minor league football will kill off all the good the Big East, BK, and the BCS bowls provided. Even the Liberty and Belk bowls helped raise our profile, but sadly those bowls are now out of our reach.

Always laugh at those whose only retort to the poor Bowl slate is that UC "just needs to be the best team of the G5." Hope those folks send notes out to ECU, Boise, UCF, BYU, and Houston to let them know that they are all playing for second place each and every season. Scoreboard shows one season in the AAC and zero championships.

I get tired of the cheerleading on the AAC board but some UC fans need to stop their negative sky is falling act as well. The American is awful, UC must get out or the football will die is so far from the truth.

The bowl lineup isn't good but its not bad. The bowl lineup for the Big East was a half step better; however, UC was always passed up for the better second tier bowl games. The good news is that WVU, Louisville, and Notre Dame are not here anymore to take those spots away. Cincinnati is arguably the most attractive brand in the league. If UC isn't playing a power five team or BYU this season in the post season I will be shocked.

The bad news is that UC is still outside of the power five structure but every other indicator for Bearcat football is solid. Renovated stadium on the way, solid coaching staff, good recruiting, and a national schedule that provides opportunities for program defining wins. With all the issues the NCAA is having it is difficult to predict the future of the sport but I do feel good about the present.

(06-30-2014 01:56 AM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 07:53 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I can't believe I'm actually saying this (because I don't like it when others namecall), but the people who say "We have to stop bitching and crying, and support the Bearcats" are absolutely right!

Support the football Bearcats...absolutely! Season ticket holder for many, many years and make half of the road games each season. Always make the Bowl game. Front row Club seats next season at PBS - even with the poor home schedule. Once the ball is kicked off - always positive about my Bearcats on the field.

But to support the terrible conference UC's leadership (past and current) has allowed under their responsible watch - never. Years of minor league football will kill off all the good the Big East, BK, and the BCS bowls provided. Even the Liberty and Belk bowls helped raise our profile, but sadly those bowls are now out of our reach.

Always laugh at those whose only retort to the poor Bowl slate is that UC "just needs to be the best team of the G5." Hope those folks send notes out to ECU, Boise, UCF, BYU, and Houston to let them know that they are all playing for second place each and every season. Scoreboard shows one season in the AAC and zero championships.

I don't think anybody is really saying that you have to "support" or even approve of the situation... But things are what they are and launching yet another complaint thread doesn't do anything to change anything.

Quote:some UC fans need to stop their negative sky is falling act as well

^^^
THIS! A few Debbie Downers and Buzz Killingtons amongst the fan base

None of the bowls we get are anywhere near The Liberty or Belk or Russell we were previously able to get. The AAC bowls are the equivalent to getting an NIT or in some cases a CBIT invite.

(06-30-2014 10:27 AM)dossbig Wrote:  None of the bowls we get are anywhere near The Liberty or Belk or Russell we were previously able to get. The AAC bowls are the equivalent to getting an NIT or in some cases a CBIT invite.

UC was never invited to the Russell. Bearcats never sniffed the Sun, Gator, or Russell because WVU, Louisville, Notre Dame, and to a smaller extent the other Big East members were always picked before UC.

UC played North Carolina, Duke, Vandy, Southern Miss, and Western Michigan when they didn't earn the BCS bid. I actually think UC has a better chance of playing in better bowl games because they are a flagship program now. This season the Miami Beach,, Military, St. Pete, and Birmingham could provide UC an interesting second tier bowl opponent.

UC has a large fan base when you compare them to the other schools in the American and in G5 conferences; however, UC's fan base is on the small side when compared to power five programs. If UC was in a power five conference the bowl situation doesn't change that much because UC is probably near the middle to the bottom of the list again when it comes to bowl selections that are not based on merit. Hence an 7 or 8 win UC team is probably stuck playing another 6-6 power five team or a good non power conference team.

Let's see in the liberty and belk bowls we've played Vanderbilt , duke and north Carolina. 4 of the 6 AAC bowls are BYU or mid level P5 match ups. I don't see the drastic difference that's sending everyone off the cliff.

Edit: what bearcatlawjd said above only he said it better. : )

(06-30-2014 10:27 AM)dossbig Wrote:  None of the bowls we get are anywhere near The Liberty or Belk or Russell we were previously able to get. The AAC bowls are the equivalent to getting an NIT or in some cases a CBIT invite.

Yes. And constantly whining about it does....what???...exactly?

It is what it is. Get over it already. Or go root for that other team up north. But your choices are (a) Stay on the Bearcat bandwagon and make the best of a crappy situation, or (b) jump off the wagon because it's not going the way you want; don't go to the games because you don't like the opponents, don't go to the bowl games because you don't like the destination, etc... People who pick option A are called BEARCAT FANS. People who pick option B are not.

So make up your mind already.

(06-30-2014 09:30 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I don't think anybody is really saying that you have to "support" or even approve of the situation... But things are what they are and launching yet another complaint thread doesn't do anything to change anything.

Thank you Jerry... you said it much better, and diplomatically, than I did

Edit - and especially here:

(06-30-2014 11:16 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Yes. And constantly whining about it does....what???...exactly?

It is what it is. Get over it already. Or go root for that other team up north. But your choices are (a) Stay on the Bearcat bandwagon and make the best of a crappy situation, or (b) jump off the wagon because it's not going the way you want; don't go to the games because you don't like the opponents, don't go to the bowl games because you don't like the destination, etc... People who pick option A are called BEARCAT FANS. People who pick option B are not.

So make up your mind already.

(06-30-2014 09:30 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  But things are what they are and launching yet another complaint thread doesn't do anything to change anything.

Sure, I could be quiet and drink the "everything is OK Kool-Aid."

But then again if everyone (including Ono who is living off the hard work of Joe Steger, Bob Huggins, Bob Goin, and Brian Kelly) is OK with the status quo, then UC will take a posture of HOPING to get into a P5 someday - MAYBE.

I surely don't post all this forecasted downfall of UC football to piss off people on this board whom I never met.

Let's all agree that the current leadership at UC did not experience what UC athletics was like prior to inclusion in the Big East. Or even worse, prior to Bob Huggins.

UC football was once big under Sid Gillman, and then again with Greg Cook, and the basketball team won back-to-back national championships. Tickets were hard to get for many games. Twenty years later less than 5,000 fans showed up for football, less than 2,000 for basketball. UC became insignificant nationally, and more importantly locally.

History has a way of repeating itself.

I simply refuse to accept our current situation. I truly believe that just five years of this minor league affiliation will significantly hurt UC. The City of Cincinnati is not a minor league town, and has mostly ignored all minor league sports. That's what happened in the 70's and 80's. UC fell out of a conference, played as an independent for years without anything to play for. The students, alums, fans, and the community yawned.

Many argue that their are simply no invites available. Really?

Albeit not all P5 moves, these football schools seemed to have found a way in the last four years to improve their situation in another conference:
Colorado
Boise St.
Nebraska
Utah
Fresno St
Nevada
Hawaii
UMass
Syracuse
Pitt
TCU
WVU
Mizzou
UCF
Houston
SMU
Maryland
Rutgers
East Carolina
Tulane
Louisville
FAU
Middle Tenn
East Carolina
Idaho
New Mex St.
WKy
Tulsa
Navy (pending)

Let's all hope Ono and Bohn quickly add UC's name to the list. When they do....I will be quiet.

That's a good quiet. Silencing the voices of those unhappy with our current situation is the worse kind of quiet.....its apathy.

Quote:History has a way of repeating itself.

Great, then the program should be back in a P5 conference after the MD suit shakes itself free

Rag, just for argument's sake, would you say Ono and Bohn are the culprit, or would you say Z/Williams/Thomas?

(06-30-2014 11:53 AM)Ragpicker Wrote:  Silencing the voices of those unhappy with our current situation is the worse kind of quiet.....its apathy.

Recognizing, and being unhappy with, the current situation is one thing. Beating that dead horse over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, is quite another.

If we don't get an access bowl then you have to think the Birmingham bowl is going to want us
or ECU. That stadium is in poor condition, but the time, location and opponent is good. Drivable and tailgate worthy.
Hope it is not cold.

(06-30-2014 12:21 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  Rag, just for argument's sake, would you say Ono and Bohn are the culprit, or would you say Z/Williams/Thomas?

Thomas is the most to blame in my opinion. Cutting programs and not investing in facilities. Z hurt basketball, but Mick has fixed it. Williams appeared to be gullible. The BOT has not shown any vision.

And, so far, Ono's only accomplishment has been the stadium renovation which everyone knew was needed. But under his watch, we have lost a spot at the big boy table, lost rivals especially Louisville, lost TV revenue, lost quality bowl games, lost quality home scheduling, and will open the season with 2 byes against an opponent that has played two games and started practice two weeks earlier.

But he hired Bohn. Who may or may not be the man to get the job done. He certainly has been stealth in his activities. Which is fine if he is selling UC.