FYI....Departing Maryland finished 32nd Overall Nationally...Incoming Louisville Finished 30th Overall...here is the link:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacd...fstand.pdf

Posted this earlier.
The ACC, SEC and PAC 12 each placed 5 tin the top 20. The other 5 were split between the Big 10 (3) and the Big 12 (2).

(06-27-2014 10:41 PM)XLance Wrote:  Posted this earlier.
The ACC, SEC and PAC 12 each placed 5 tin the top 20. The other 5 were split between the Big 10 (3) and the Big 12 (2).

Yes, but Big Ten was best conference overall with 11 of 12 in Top 50.

Cheers,
Neil

(06-28-2014 12:07 AM)omniorange Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 10:41 PM)XLance Wrote:  Posted this earlier.
The ACC, SEC and PAC 12 each placed 5 tin the top 20. The other 5 were split between the Big 10 (3) and the Big 12 (2).

Yes, but Big Ten was best conference overall with 11 of 12 in Top 50.

Cheers,
Neil

I'm not sure a conference wants to argue that it's the best because most of its schools were not as bad as others out there. It seems like a lame way to claim that they're the best.

You usually look at the programs near the top, and the ACC had 3 in the top 10 and the Big 10 had only 1. The ACC had 5 in the top 15 and the Big 10 had only 2. To have 20% of the ACC's teams in the top 10 sure is better than 1/12th of the BiG's.

But even if we count all the schools in the two conferences the rank does not really matter as much as the points, and in that regard the ACC had about 1200 more points. [Since the ACC had three more schools in the total count, you cannot compare it exactly, but it roughly equalizes it.]

(06-28-2014 01:35 AM)cavman Wrote:  

(06-28-2014 12:07 AM)omniorange Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 10:41 PM)XLance Wrote:  Posted this earlier.
The ACC, SEC and PAC 12 each placed 5 tin the top 20. The other 5 were split between the Big 10 (3) and the Big 12 (2).

Yes, but Big Ten was best conference overall with 11 of 12 in Top 50.

Cheers,
Neil

I'm not sure a conference wants to argue that it's the best because most of its schools were not as bad as others out there. It seems like a lame way to claim that they're the best.

You usually look at the programs near the top, and the ACC had 3 in the top 10 and the Big 10 had only 1. The ACC had 5 in the top 15 and the Big 10 had only 2. To have 20% of the ACC's teams in the top 10 sure is better than 1/12th of the BiG's.

But even if we count all the schools in the two conferences the rank does not really matter as much as the points, and in that regard the ACC had about 1200 more points. [Since the ACC had three more schools in the total count, you cannot compare it exactly, but it roughly equalizes it.]

Personally I don't care how a conference ranks in the Director's Cup. Only commented because I didn't want posters to get too excited about where conference teams ranked. I even slept the fact that the SEC actually had 12 of 14 in the Top 50 and the two outside of it finished respectably.

Only sports that matter are football and men's basketball anyway. The rest is just gravy. (And I'm a huge lacrosse fan). That is how conferences will be judged.

Cheers,
Neil

Seven straight Top 15 finishes. UNC is the only other school that can say that.

Looks like ND is picking up where they left off in the BE, #1, but not only #1 in the Acc but top 5 the nation. Props to Irish Nation. Same for the Cavs

Here are the men's and women's Capital One Cup final rankings:

http://www.capitalonecup.com/


MEN'S CUP STANDINGS

SCHOOL POINTS

1. Notre Dame 98.5
2. Oregon 92
3. Florida 86
4. Virginia 77
5. Florida State 68
5. USC 68
7. Connecticut 66
8. Duke 60.5
9. Maryland 60
9. North Dakota State 60
9. Vanderbilt 60
12. Michigan State 51



WOMEN'S CUP STANDINGS

SCHOOL POINTS

1. Florida 152
2. UCLA 110
3. Stanford 106
4. Maryland 94
5. Texas A&M 89
6. Connecticut 80
6. Oregon 80
6. Texas 80
9. Penn State 72
10. North Carolina 68
11. Georgia 62
12. Virginia 56

(06-28-2014 07:33 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Looks like ND is picking up where they left off in the BE, #1, but not only #1 in the Acc but top 5 the nation. Props to Irish Nation. Same for the Cavs

Looks like they finished #22, #21, #21, #27, #18 and #17, consecutively from 06-07 to 11-12.

(06-29-2014 08:51 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(06-28-2014 07:33 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  Looks like ND is picking up where they left off in the BE, #1, but not only #1 in the Acc but top 5 the nation. Props to Irish Nation. Same for the Cavs

Looks like they finished #22, #21, #21, #27, #18 and #17, consecutively from 06-07 to 11-12.

Which was good for #1 in the BE. What do you think of ND finishing #1 in the ACC after predicting them to finish no better than 4th? You were on target about Louisville though, for now.

I didn't predict THIS year. I said based on the last 8ish seasons, ND is the 6th best department in the conference. That is accurate and indisputable based on the Director's Cup standings from the years I cited. Maybe this year bumped them up to 5th best in the last 9ish seasons. Not sure. Don't particularly care. I do recall saying ND was much closer to the ACC's #1 spot than UL was to ND (#6), and that UL was much closer to the ACC's #7 spot than they were the #6 spot.

But hey, you can look at those 6 years I mentioned and then look at this year and see if there is an outlier for yourself.

(06-29-2014 11:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I didn't predict THIS year. I said based on the last 8ish seasons, ND is the 6th best department in the conference. That is accurate and indisputable based on the Director's Cup standings from the years I cited. Maybe this year bumped them up to 5th best in the last 9ish seasons. Not sure. Don't particularly care. I do recall saying ND was much closer to the ACC's #1 spot than UL was to ND (#6), and that UL was much closer to the ACC's #7 spot than they were the #6 spot.

But hey, you can look at those 6 years I mentioned and then look at this year and see if there is an outlier for yourself.

What about going forward? There is lots of room for improvement.

The suspension of Everett Golson and the previous transfer of Gunner Kiel left ND with immobile, weak armed Tommy Rees to guide them to a 9-4 season.

Golson is back and redshirt freshman (early admission as a freshman, too) dual threat QB Malik Zaire is there to back him up.

The suspension of Jerian Grant, injuries and transfers made the ND men's basketball season its worst since 1999.

Baseball struggled greatly this past year. No place to go but up?

ND has had a good overall athletics program for years and should compete well in the ACC going forward.

(06-30-2014 07:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 11:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I didn't predict THIS year. I said based on the last 8ish seasons, ND is the 6th best department in the conference. That is accurate and indisputable based on the Director's Cup standings from the years I cited. Maybe this year bumped them up to 5th best in the last 9ish seasons. Not sure. Don't particularly care. I do recall saying ND was much closer to the ACC's #1 spot than UL was to ND (#6), and that UL was much closer to the ACC's #7 spot than they were the #6 spot.

But hey, you can look at those 6 years I mentioned and then look at this year and see if there is an outlier for yourself.

What about going forward? There is lots of room for improvement.

The suspension of Everett Golson and the previous transfer of Gunner Kiel left ND with immobile, weak armed Tommy Rees to guide them to a 9-4 season.

Golson is back and redshirt freshman (early admission as a freshman, too) dual threat QB Malik Zaire is there to back him up.

The suspension of Jerian Grant, injuries and transfers made the ND men's basketball season its worst since 1999.

Baseball struggled greatly this past year. No place to go but up?

ND has had a good overall athletics program for years and should compete well in the ACC going forward.

That's crazy that ND finished so high with moderate football, poor basketball and baseball. I agree, there's no where to go but up for ND.

(06-30-2014 07:01 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 11:23 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I didn't predict THIS year. I said based on the last 8ish seasons, ND is the 6th best department in the conference. That is accurate and indisputable based on the Director's Cup standings from the years I cited. Maybe this year bumped them up to 5th best in the last 9ish seasons. Not sure. Don't particularly care. I do recall saying ND was much closer to the ACC's #1 spot than UL was to ND (#6), and that UL was much closer to the ACC's #7 spot than they were the #6 spot.

But hey, you can look at those 6 years I mentioned and then look at this year and see if there is an outlier for yourself.

1. What about going forward? There is lots of room for improvement.

2. ND has had a good overall athletics program for years and should compete well in the ACC going forward.

1. What about it? Every school could say that. Every school also has lots of room to slide in the rankings.

2. I said as much.