(06-29-2014 02:51 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 02:34 PM)Tigersmoke Wrote:  Seminole Indian why oh why do you bottom of the barrel teams. In bottom of the barrel conferences keep coming to our board trying to convince us that we are all-in-one as far as the g5's go? The American is and has proven to be better than the other g4's. Lol

Don't think there is any doubt about that but I'm not really a Conference focused guy (last year the SBC was the top non-aq conference in football, and their teams got the BCS checks, and I think 2nd the year before), because going forward it is every school for themselves.

There are good football teams scattered through out the G5's, and bad ones. Every G5 Conference has both, and I can't wait to see which teams rise to the top of the G5 pack.

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I see what you did there. AAC was an AQ conference this last year, so you're making that statement knowing you didn't include us in your comparison. This year will show just how far behind the AAC your conference really is. Good luck. But regardless of how hard you try, we're not equals. Never have been, never will be. So GFYS and go back to your board where you belong.

(06-29-2014 04:34 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 02:51 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 02:34 PM)Tigersmoke Wrote:  Seminole Indian why oh why do you bottom of the barrel teams. In bottom of the barrel conferences keep coming to our board trying to convince us that we are all-in-one as far as the g5's go? The American is and has proven to be better than the other g4's. Lol

Don't think there is any doubt about that but I'm not really a Conference focused guy (last year the SBC was the top non-aq conference in football, and their teams got the BCS checks, and I think 2nd the year before), because going forward it is every school for themselves.

There are good football teams scattered through out the G5's, and bad ones. Every G5 Conference has both, and I can't wait to see which teams rise to the top of the G5 pack.

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I see what you did there. AAC was an AQ conference this last year, so you're making that statement knowing you didn't include us in your comparison. This year will show just how far behind the AAC your conference really is. Good luck. But regardless of how hard you try, we're not equals. Never have been, never will be. So GFYS and go back to your board where you belong.

I agree 100% and the only question in my mind was how big the gap would be at the start. Had thought that the MWC would be in the mix with the AAC but not sure now, because they finished behind the SBC last year.

As far as never will be, as a conference you are probably right if the MWC cannot up their game, but I'm only interested in who will be the team(s) that rise to the top, and represent the G5's in the new playoff. There are some good teams spread throughout the G5's, so it is not a given that it will be an AAC team, but the overall strength of the AAC does in my opinion give their Champion an advantage for sure.

Just want whoever it is to represent the G5's well, and several AAC teams are very capable of doing so.

(06-28-2014 05:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:19 PM)banker Wrote:  His argument is apparently that the best AAC teams can beat mediocre B12 teams and the best B12 teams can beat mediocre AAC teams. The way to do it would be to list 1 vs 1 thru 10 vs 10. I would say the B12 would go 7-3 at worst and probably 9-1.

Sounds like you were part of the group that bet $$$ and took Baylor -17 vs UCF in the BCS Bowl.

Congrats

Nope, but I don't confuse the outcome of one game with what a team could do across a full season. Example, wvu wins the Big East and destroys Clemson in the Orange. Bowl. Next season, with their QB and 2 first round WRs back, along with most of their team, they start 5-0 but then break down playing week in and week out against the Big 12.

Have a great game against a big opponent in a big game, especially when the other team views you as beneath them, is a great story, but it's not the same as beating quality teams week after week after week.

(06-29-2014 10:45 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-28-2014 05:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:19 PM)banker Wrote:  His argument is apparently that the best AAC teams can beat mediocre B12 teams and the best B12 teams can beat mediocre AAC teams. The way to do it would be to list 1 vs 1 thru 10 vs 10. I would say the B12 would go 7-3 at worst and probably 9-1.

Sounds like you were part of the group that bet $$$ and took Baylor -17 vs UCF in the BCS Bowl.

Congrats

Nope, but I don't confuse the outcome of one game with what a team could do across a full season. Example, wvu wins the Big East and destroys Clemson in the Orange. Bowl. Next season, with their QB and 2 first round WRs back, along with most of their team, they start 5-0 but then break down playing week in and week out against the Big 12.

Have a great game against a big opponent in a big game, especially when the other team views you as beneath them, is a great story, but it's not the same as beating quality teams week after week after week.

Great, first a wannabe horn fan and now this...

(06-30-2014 12:35 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 10:45 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-28-2014 05:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:19 PM)banker Wrote:  His argument is apparently that the best AAC teams can beat mediocre B12 teams and the best B12 teams can beat mediocre AAC teams. The way to do it would be to list 1 vs 1 thru 10 vs 10. I would say the B12 would go 7-3 at worst and probably 9-1.

Sounds like you were part of the group that bet $$$ and took Baylor -17 vs UCF in the BCS Bowl.

Congrats

Nope, but I don't confuse the outcome of one game with what a team could do across a full season. Example, wvu wins the Big East and destroys Clemson in the Orange. Bowl. Next season, with their QB and 2 first round WRs back, along with most of their team, they start 5-0 but then break down playing week in and week out against the Big 12.

Have a great game against a big opponent in a big game, especially when the other team views you as beneath them, is a great story, but it's not the same as beating quality teams week after week after week.

Great, first a wannabe horn fan and now this...

I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

(06-30-2014 07:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

(06-30-2014 07:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

Nope today you are either in a P5 Conference or who cares.

Like I said I have no doubts that the AAC is the best of the G5's, and the only question I had was would the MWC be a challenger from the start.

Based on the fact they finished behind the SBC last year I say there is a bigger gap than expected between the AAC and the other 4 G5's.

As far as which G5 teams will rise to the top of the G5 that is still up in the air. There are several quality teams spread through out the G5's.

I do think the champion of the AAC, because of the overall strength of the conference would have an advantage.

Think some of you simply don't want to be thought of as a G5 Conference. To bad and to sad.

Might take some time but reality will set in, probably this football season.

(06-30-2014 07:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

Nope today you are either in a P5 Conference or who cares.

Like I said I have no doubts that the AAC is the best of the G5's, and the only question I had was would the MWC be a challenger from the start.

Based on the fact they finished behind the SBC last year I say there is a bigger gap than expected between the AAC and the other 4 G5's.

As far as which G5 teams will rise to the top of the G5 that is still up in the air. There are several quality teams spread through out the G5's.

I do think the champion of the AAC, because of the overall strength of the conference would have an advantage.

Think some of you simply don't want to be thought of as a G5 Conference. To bad to sad.

By the way some AAC teams have actually lost to the unwashed teams in the other four G5's, even SBC teams.

Another dickhole who hides behind a "shield of honesty" when really they just like being a dickhole. Back to the reservation Seminole.

(06-30-2014 07:53 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

Nope today you are either in a P5 Conference or who cares.

Like I said I have no doubts that the AAC is the best of the G5's, and the only question I had was would the MWC be a challenger from the start.

Based on the fact they finished behind the SBC last year I say there is a bigger gap than expected between the AAC and the other 4 G5's.

As far as which G5 teams will rise to the top of the G5 that is still up in the air. There are several quality teams spread through out the G5's.

I do think the champion of the AAC, because of the overall strength of the conference would have an advantage.

Think some of you simply don't want to be thought of as a G5 Conference. To bad to sad.

By the way some AAC teams have actually lost to the unwashed teams in the other four G5's, even SBC teams.

Another dickhole who hides behind a "shield of honesty" when really they just like being a dickhole. Back to the reservation Seminole.

Actually my post here were intended to be complimentary of the AAC, which I consider the best of the G5's, but the fact is some here simply think being associated with the other G5's is a put down. So be it.

Fact is it is every G5 program for themselves going forward, because you are either P5 or you are nothing unless you win.

Best of luck to all the G5 'teams' (which includes the AAC ), and I look forward to watching the cream rise to the top of the G5's. I assure you most AAC teams will not make the cut.

(06-30-2014 07:59 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:53 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

Nope today you are either in a P5 Conference or who cares.

Like I said I have no doubts that the AAC is the best of the G5's, and the only question I had was would the MWC be a challenger from the start.

Based on the fact they finished behind the SBC last year I say there is a bigger gap than expected between the AAC and the other 4 G5's.

As far as which G5 teams will rise to the top of the G5 that is still up in the air. There are several quality teams spread through out the G5's.

I do think the champion of the AAC, because of the overall strength of the conference would have an advantage.

Think some of you simply don't want to be thought of as a G5 Conference. To bad to sad.

By the way some AAC teams have actually lost to the unwashed teams in the other four G5's, even SBC teams.

Another dickhole who hides behind a "shield of honesty" when really they just like being a dickhole. Back to the reservation Seminole.

Actually my post here were intended to be complimentary of the AAC, which I consider the best of the G5's, but the fact is some here simply think being associated with the other G5's is a put down. So be it.

Fact is it is every G5 program for themselves going forward, because you are either P5 or you are nothing unless you win.

Best of luck to all the G5 'teams' (which includes the AAC ), and I look forward to watching the cream rise to the top of the G5's. I assure you most AAC teams will not make the cut.

If that was your intent then I apologize. Too often we get P5 big shots who come on this board and repeatedly beat us over the head with how poor we are. I don't react to this too well since CFB is supposed to be about amateurism and good spirited competition. I personally enjoy bringing opposing fanbases into my tailgate and show them some courtesy and have a good time. The elitism attitude is completely unnecessary and more of an indication of each fan's insecurities.

I think the AAC is a tweener conference and I reject any opinion from any P5 fan who tries to convince me that I should know my place and accept it. Horsesh$t. The AAC will eventually show where it belongs, regardless of how P5 fans feel about it.

(06-30-2014 08:13 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:59 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:53 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

Nope today you are either in a P5 Conference or who cares.

Like I said I have no doubts that the AAC is the best of the G5's, and the only question I had was would the MWC be a challenger from the start.

Based on the fact they finished behind the SBC last year I say there is a bigger gap than expected between the AAC and the other 4 G5's.

As far as which G5 teams will rise to the top of the G5 that is still up in the air. There are several quality teams spread through out the G5's.

I do think the champion of the AAC, because of the overall strength of the conference would have an advantage.

Think some of you simply don't want to be thought of as a G5 Conference. To bad to sad.

By the way some AAC teams have actually lost to the unwashed teams in the other four G5's, even SBC teams.

Another dickhole who hides behind a "shield of honesty" when really they just like being a dickhole. Back to the reservation Seminole.

Actually my post here were intended to be complimentary of the AAC, which I consider the best of the G5's, but the fact is some here simply think being associated with the other G5's is a put down. So be it.

Fact is it is every G5 program for themselves going forward, because you are either P5 or you are nothing unless you win.

Best of luck to all the G5 'teams' (which includes the AAC ), and I look forward to watching the cream rise to the top of the G5's. I assure you most AAC teams will not make the cut.

If that was your intent then I apologize. Too often we get P5 big shots who come on this board and repeatedly beat us over the head with how poor we are. I don't react to this too well since CFB is supposed to be about amateurism and good spirited competition. I personally enjoy bringing opposing fanbases into my tailgate and show them some courtesy and have a good time. The elitism attitude is completely unnecessary and more of an indication of each fan's insecurities.

I think the AAC is a tweener conference and I reject any opinion from any P5 fan who tries to convince me that I should know my place and accept it. Horsesh$t. The AAC will eventually show where it belongs, regardless of how P5 fans feel about it.

I don't think most fans of the former non-aq conferences have a problem with that because there are a lot of facts to support it.

Think most of the 4 former non-aq's though the MWC could possibly match up when the AAC entered the picture, but that does not appear to be the case.

Still we have a football season coming up , and while the AAC appears to have more quality teams than any other G5 Conference, there are some other quality teams spread through out the other G5's.

Will be interesting to see who rises to the challenge this season.

(06-29-2014 10:45 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-28-2014 05:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:19 PM)banker Wrote:  His argument is apparently that the best AAC teams can beat mediocre B12 teams and the best B12 teams can beat mediocre AAC teams. The way to do it would be to list 1 vs 1 thru 10 vs 10. I would say the B12 would go 7-3 at worst and probably 9-1.

Sounds like you were part of the group that bet $$$ and took Baylor -17 vs UCF in the BCS Bowl.

Congrats

Nope, but I don't confuse the outcome of one game with what a team could do across a full season. Example, wvu wins the Big East and destroys Clemson in the Orange. Bowl. Next season, with their QB and 2 first round WRs back, along with most of their team, they start 5-0 but then break down playing week in and week out against the Big 12.

Have a great game against a big opponent in a big game, especially when the other team views you as beneath them, is a great story, but it's not the same as beating quality teams week after week after week.

Oh, the irony of a Marshall fan talking about schedules, given your 2014 campaign could be confused with a 1-AA programs'.

But since you mentioned it, did you miss the fact that UCF also went to Penn State and won? Went to #7 Louisville and won? Came up short by 3 points against #6 USC? Beat a good Houston team?

The fact is that UCF lined up against Baylor and smacked them in the mouth. Period. And did so after playing 2 other Top 10 teams in our season and going on the road to beat a Big 10 team.

(06-30-2014 07:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

Nope today you are either in a P5 Conference or who cares.

Like I said I have no doubts that the AAC is the best of the G5's, and the only question I had was would the MWC be a challenger from the start.

Based on the fact they finished behind the SBC last year I say there is a bigger gap than expected between the AAC and the other 4 G5's.

As far as which G5 teams will rise to the top of the G5 that is still up in the air. There are several quality teams spread through out the G5's.

I do think the champion of the AAC, because of the overall strength of the conference would have an advantage.

Think some of you simply don't want to be thought of as a G5 Conference. To bad and to sad.

Might take some time but reality will set in, probably this football season.

i could argue if you arent sec/fsu and a few select teams who cares..
everyone makes this arguement when they want to be grouped with the select few above them. you see it all the time in p5 vs p5 arguments, one will have a clear advantage and then you'll hear "if your not wimnning championships who cares" "if you arent top 25 who cares" etc.

sbnation, cbssports and ESPN all released conference rankings all have AAC #1. we arent given p5 respect, but you're homerism is blinding you if you think the AAC and sunbelt are given the same respect by the national media/fans. this isnt just black and white (like most things in life) there are different shades of gray

as a far as which g5 will rise to the top that will be decided by who can beat top level p5. do i think we will get the access bowl every year? no, im sure other g5 will have undefeated runs on weak schedules here and there. but that won't make them a top G5, it will be decided by who wins the actual bowl game vs the p5. (similarly with top 25 p5 ooc)

the only g5 conference that remotely recruits similar to the p5 is the AAC (and boise). and to do it on semi-ly regular enough (not the 1 random upset) to gain respect you are going to need recruits, exposure, money & facilities. the AAC is bar non better than the rest of the G5 in those areas.

i see it this way all 4 other g4 have in different interviews said they are not competing with the bamas and texas's but other g5. the AAC is the only one saying we dont want to compete with teh g5 that we intend to be competing with the P5, if not now then soon. which shows you the mind state difference of the leadership

(06-30-2014 08:39 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 10:45 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-28-2014 05:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:19 PM)banker Wrote:  His argument is apparently that the best AAC teams can beat mediocre B12 teams and the best B12 teams can beat mediocre AAC teams. The way to do it would be to list 1 vs 1 thru 10 vs 10. I would say the B12 would go 7-3 at worst and probably 9-1.

Sounds like you were part of the group that bet $$$ and took Baylor -17 vs UCF in the BCS Bowl.

Congrats

Nope, but I don't confuse the outcome of one game with what a team could do across a full season. Example, wvu wins the Big East and destroys Clemson in the Orange. Bowl. Next season, with their QB and 2 first round WRs back, along with most of their team, they start 5-0 but then break down playing week in and week out against the Big 12.

Have a great game against a big opponent in a big game, especially when the other team views you as beneath them, is a great story, but it's not the same as beating quality teams week after week after week.

Oh, the irony of a Marshall fan talking about schedules, given your 2014 campaign could be confused with a 1-AA programs'.

But since you mentioned it, did you miss the fact that UCF also went to Penn State and won? Went to #7 Louisville and won? Came up short by 3 points against #6 USC? Beat a good Houston team?

The fact is that UCF lined up against Baylor and smacked them in the mouth. Period. And did so after playing 2 other Top 10 teams in our season and going on the road to beat a Big 10 team.

No, I didn't miss the fact that you beat a 7-5 Penn State team by 3 points. The same Penn State that also lost to Indiana, Minnesota, and got beat 63-14 by Ohio State in a game that wasn't even that close. I did not miss your moral victory against USCe and I also saw your win against Louisville, who got to a #7 ranking by playing a very soft first 6 games last year (you know, the kind of soft schedule you make fun of Marshall for).

I also didn't miss your 4 pt win at SMU, your 3 pt win at Temple, or your 3 pt win at USF. I also saw your 5 pt win at Houston and your 7 pt win at Memphis. UCF was a good team last year, but no where near great. What if instead of the five teams listed in this paragraph those games would have been against Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, and Texas Tech? Still think you win all 5?

Dude your D1aa board is

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That way.

See ya.

LoL @ Marshall fans. Still obsessing over the American. Sorry, you're not wanted. Now, take your band of NQ's & ex-con's and kindly return to the JV board. UTSA, UAB, WKU, & Charlotte are waiting for you.

Non-Qualifier University

(06-30-2014 10:46 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Non-Qualifier University

Also known as good ole "NQU."

They have a thread about non-qualifiers right now on the CUSA Board.

(06-30-2014 08:41 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:48 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:29 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 07:20 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  I am beginning to think some of you are having a hard time coming to grips with reality. Hate to break the news to you but the AAC is a G5 conference, not a P5. They did not create a special classification too accommodate your bruised egos.

hate to break it too you but no one even remotely conisders c-usa/sunblet on the same level as the AAC, the same way no one considers the sec the same level as the ACC despite being classified the same

Nope today you are either in a P5 Conference or who cares.

Like I said I have no doubts that the AAC is the best of the G5's, and the only question I had was would the MWC be a challenger from the start.

Based on the fact they finished behind the SBC last year I say there is a bigger gap than expected between the AAC and the other 4 G5's.

As far as which G5 teams will rise to the top of the G5 that is still up in the air. There are several quality teams spread through out the G5's.

I do think the champion of the AAC, because of the overall strength of the conference would have an advantage.

Think some of you simply don't want to be thought of as a G5 Conference. To bad and to sad.

Might take some time but reality will set in, probably this football season.

i could argue if you arent sec/fsu and a few select teams who cares..
everyone makes this arguement when they want to be grouped with the select few above them. you see it all the time in p5 vs p5 arguments, one will have a clear advantage and then you'll hear "if your not wimnning championships who cares" "if you arent top 25 who cares" etc.

sbnation, cbssports and ESPN all released conference rankings all have AAC #1. we arent given p5 respect, but you're homerism is blinding you if you think the AAC and sunbelt are given the same respect by the national media/fans. this isnt just black and white (like most things in life) there are different shades of gray

as a far as which g5 will rise to the top that will be decided by who can beat top level p5. do i think we will get the access bowl every year? no, im sure other g5 will have undefeated runs on weak schedules here and there. but that won't make them a top G5, it will be decided by who wins the actual bowl game vs the p5. (similarly with top 25 p5 ooc)

the only g5 conference that remotely recruits similar to the p5 is the AAC (and boise). and to do it on semi-ly regular enough (not the 1 random upset) to gain respect you are going to need recruits, exposure, money & facilities. the AAC is bar non better than the rest of the G5 in those areas.

i see it this way all 4 other g4 have in different interviews said they are not competing with the bamas and texas's but other g5. the AAC is the only one saying we dont want to compete with teh g5 that we intend to be competing with the P5, if not now then soon. which shows you the mind state difference of the leadership

Actually, I think every school not in one of the power conference, and many that are, has adopted the position that it is every dog for themselves under the new 'arrangement'.

Because most of the AAC have been members in good standings with the have-not's for some time this will not come as a shock.

Sorry some of you don't like having negative names attached to your programs based on circumstances and not merit but welcome to America, because that is what Americans do.

I do look forward to seeing how your teams perform on the field this year, so best of luck to each program, and I hope you have a successful season.

(06-30-2014 09:52 AM)banker Wrote:  

(06-30-2014 08:39 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 10:45 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-28-2014 05:31 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-27-2014 09:19 PM)banker Wrote:  His argument is apparently that the best AAC teams can beat mediocre B12 teams and the best B12 teams can beat mediocre AAC teams. The way to do it would be to list 1 vs 1 thru 10 vs 10. I would say the B12 would go 7-3 at worst and probably 9-1.

Sounds like you were part of the group that bet $$$ and took Baylor -17 vs UCF in the BCS Bowl.

Congrats

Nope, but I don't confuse the outcome of one game with what a team could do across a full season. Example, wvu wins the Big East and destroys Clemson in the Orange. Bowl. Next season, with their QB and 2 first round WRs back, along with most of their team, they start 5-0 but then break down playing week in and week out against the Big 12.

Have a great game against a big opponent in a big game, especially when the other team views you as beneath them, is a great story, but it's not the same as beating quality teams week after week after week.

Oh, the irony of a Marshall fan talking about schedules, given your 2014 campaign could be confused with a 1-AA programs'.

But since you mentioned it, did you miss the fact that UCF also went to Penn State and won? Went to #7 Louisville and won? Came up short by 3 points against #6 USC? Beat a good Houston team?

The fact is that UCF lined up against Baylor and smacked them in the mouth. Period. And did so after playing 2 other Top 10 teams in our season and going on the road to beat a Big 10 team.

No, I didn't miss the fact that you beat a 7-5 Penn State team by 3 points. The same Penn State that also lost to Indiana, Minnesota, and got beat 63-14 by Ohio State in a game that wasn't even that close. I did not miss your moral victory against USCe and I also saw your win against Louisville, who got to a #7 ranking by playing a very soft first 6 games last year (you know, the kind of soft schedule you make fun of Marshall for).

I also didn't miss your 4 pt win at SMU, your 3 pt win at Temple, or your 3 pt win at USF. I also saw your 5 pt win at Houston and your 7 pt win at Memphis. UCF was a good team last year, but no where near great. What if instead of the five teams listed in this paragraph those games would have been against Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, and Texas Tech? Still think you win all 5?

Is a fan of school whose OOC this year is Ohio, Miami OH, and Rhode Island really trying to poke holes in a schedule last year that included @Penn State, @ #7 Louisville, vs #6 USC, vs Houston, and vs #5 Baylor in a BCS bowl?

The irony is so thick that I'm choking.

And your entire premise is beyond stupid. Playing a Big 12 schedule would mean actually being in the Big 12. Which would come with tons of money, greater recruting exposure, and more opportunities to expand the program. But yes, if you put UCF on the same level playing field, I'm sure we'd be competitive against all of those teams, as evididenced by us whipping Baylor, who beat all of those same teams.

Now run back to the 1-AA, errrr, CUSA board.