billyjack
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RE: No Big East expanion. Big East will follow B12's ten team model.
(06-24-2014 01:26 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: (06-24-2014 09:24 AM)billyjack Wrote: (06-24-2014 08:42 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: Actually, Fox was going to give them the same share if they added two additional members. No individual payout dilution. What I think the Big East wanted was some additional money incentives to get that twelve. If they have to expand, they want to be paid more for it (travel, ollies, hubris...I don't know, pick one), not paid the same. Apparently, there isn't even enough consensus for just one more, which someone like St. Louis or Dayton could have filled without added travel stress.
OOC material is a good idea, but you have to win some of those games, too.
I've heard Richmond rolled around a few times, and that certain schools (like Georgetown) want them. The conference had a chance to start that absorption process when it was short a lacrosse member for the AQ...it went out to the Rockies and plucked Denver instead. While I don't blame the Big East for picking up a program like that, Richmond was still right there. And rather than expand to surpass the minimum for AQ, they stand pat. So, where does that leave Richmond?
I haven't heard the part you said about wanting to be paid more...? Not saying you're wrong, but it's been discussed on the other site (HLoH) continously, and that's never come up.
I think it's simply the combination of (1) positives with the round robin, (2) not having an obvious home run candidate for #12 (VCU public, Gonzaga too far, etc) and waiting for one school to really stand out, and (3) #3 or #4 rated conference, with recruiting and attendance being great.
I'm unclear what the expansionary measures expected. Like, did the Big East have to take two to get the money, or would it have been prorated for just one? Because I can understand standing pat at ten when you can't find two schools you want unanimously. If they can't even agree on one, though?
I think the 10 Big East schools are 100% completely in agreement that they're not yet ready to expand. I think Saint Louis has a 99% chance of being #11 (unless they go 3-27 the next 2 years or so)(also, I'm pretty certain that if Majerus was still alive, SLU would've been invited last year). There are a bunch of great candidates to get to #12, and after another year or 2 plays out, that 12th school will maybe become more obvious.
Going to 11 with Saint Louis right now, though, would either force us to have 20 games in-conference, where we'll bludgeon each other in the competitive middle-standings; or we'll keep 18 games, but for 11 teams, and teams are going to lose home games vs Villanova, Georgetown, Marquette and in NYC, which would suck.
...I mean, going into the 2015 season here, I know that I can take the kids to the Dunk and see the Hoyas, etc... but trading a GU home game for Saint Louis (alone) at this point I think wouldn't be ideal, unless #12 also came, like a Gonzaga or maybe VCU... I don't know exactly...
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2014 02:42 PM by billyjack.)
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