Andy Staples is covering the NCAA trial. Jim Delany testified at it.

Andy Staples @Andy_Staples
Delany said Big Ten requires AAU (American Association of Universities) membership upon admission. Nebraska was, but isn't anymore.
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All that talk of the Connecticut sports reporter was just that, apparently. Now Uconn can focus for the long term on being a productive member of the AAC. Great hoops, build up football to be competitive, etc.

That might be the party line but if ND told them they wanted full membership tommorow, somehow I dont see them telling them "Nope, sorry, AAU only!"

Membership required "upon admission." I love that last little made up part to cover Nebraska's butt.

Well, duh, anyone would make an exception for a program with the market value of Nebraska or Notre Dame, but that's like saying that a football coach's rules on off-field behavior might have an exception if you are as good as Johnny Manziel or Jameis Winston. If you're not that good, don't expect to get bailed out by the exception.

Bring on Buffalo then.

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So since there has to be exceptions, who are they?

IMO:

Definitely
Notre Dame

Probably
Oklahoma

Maybe
Virginia Tech
Syracuse
UConn

Nope
Cincy
Boston College

Your maybes belong in the nope column. There are good AAU alternatives to all of them, with athletic programs at least as strong as Maryland and Rutgers, and the Big Ten presidents would opt for those if they ever want to expand more. For that matter, one could argue that the Big Ten already chose Rutgers for that reason. It's very unlikely that the Big Ten would have chosen Rutgers if UConn was AAU and Rutgers was not.

Please don't feed the troll. It only fuels his (the OPer) hatred of all things UCONN.

(06-20-2014 05:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Please don't feed the troll. It only fuels his (the OPer) hatred of all things UCONN.

I don't like to feed trolls but how is this trolling? Seems like it really does put the kibosh on Uconn hopes for the Big 10.

AAU Members that play football outside the Big 10/SEC but in the Eastern/Central time zones, ranked in order of preference:

Public
Texas
Virginia - contiguous, new market
UNC
Georgia Tech
Kansas - contiguous, new market
Pitt - redundant
Iowa St - redundant
Buffalo - contiguous, new market?

Private
Duke
Tulane
Rice

There's really only one SEC AAU school that might consider the Big 10, and that's Missouri.

Looks like Virginia is the next key addition. With it, UNC & Duke become contiguous.

Any of those ACC schools, especially any of the other founding members, who tries to follow UMD to the Big Ten is probably going to lose a lot of booster money and season ticket holders.

Delany's full of ****, too. "We're not looking into expansion." Except that they were. They still are. And +million to the one who said they'd open their doors for Notre Dame. That AAU bit is so full of it, too. Two Big Ten schools were on Nebraska's expulsion/review panel who had no problems giving them the boot. MSU wasn't a member of the AAU when it joined the Big Ten, either.

(06-20-2014 04:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  So since there has to be exceptions, who are they?

IMO:

Definitely
Notre Dame

Probably
Oklahoma

Maybe
Virginia Tech
Syracuse
UConn

Nope
Cincy
Boston College

hell yes
notre dame

highly likely
syracuse- being a past AAU, historic rival of a number of b10 schools, and having solid academics, solid athletics/markets, and being in the most sensible state to expand into next, makes them the #2 most likely school IMO to break the aau barrier

has a chance but smaller
boston college- essentially a poor mans version of SU in this situation

^^^^^all three of these schools are a case of solid academics but non research orientated

oklahoma- decent football/market, but unlike all the other schools on this list, they have terrible academics to reaffirm why they are not AAU

no chance
UCONN
Virginia tech

there are far too many reasons to list why these schools will never get an invite and AAU is just one of many.

Notre Dame has always had their own set of rules in college football, why would you think it's any different with B1G admission?

That said, UConn is no Notre Dame. If they want in the B1G, they're going to have to attain AAU status. Even if they get AAU, an invite isn't a guarantee.

(06-20-2014 05:10 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Please don't feed the troll. It only fuels his (the OPer) hatred of all things UCONN.

I don't like to feed trolls but how is this trolling? Seems like it really does put the kibosh on Uconn hopes for the Big 10.

Not to give false hope, but when someone like Delany testifies, he is testifying about the past and the present, not the future.

(06-20-2014 05:10 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Please don't feed the troll. It only fuels his (the OPer) hatred of all things UCONN.

I don't like to feed trolls but how is this trolling? Seems like it really does put the kibosh on Uconn hopes for the Big 10.

I don't know how familiar you are with the OPer, but he is a known hater of all things UCONN. Any article the OPer finds, that is negative (realignment-wise) towards UCONN and its fans, will be posted by this clown. It doesn't even have to involve realignment; if it's negative towards UCONN, he posts it.

(06-20-2014 05:53 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:10 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Please don't feed the troll. It only fuels his (the OPer) hatred of all things UCONN.

I don't like to feed trolls but how is this trolling? Seems like it really does put the kibosh on Uconn hopes for the Big 10.

I don't know how familiar you are with the OPer, but he is a known hater of all things UCONN. Any article the OPer finds, that is negative (realignment-wise) towards UCONN and its fans, will be posted by this clown. It doesn't even have to involve realignment; if it's negative towards UCONN, he posts it.

his intent may have been to smear uconn, but this is a very legitimate talking point and by no means limited to just uconn.

(06-20-2014 05:41 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Any of those ACC schools, especially any of the other founding members, who tries to follow UMD to the Big Ten is probably going to lose a lot of booster money and season ticket holders.

Delany's full of ****, too. "We're not looking into expansion." Except that they were. They still are. And +million to the one who said they'd open their doors for Notre Dame. That AAU bit is so full of it, too. Two Big Ten schools were on Nebraska's expulsion/review panel who had no problems giving them the boot. MSU wasn't a member of the AAU when it joined the Big Ten, either.

Certainly you are not suggesting that the commissioner of the Big Ten Conference would commit perjury?

Lying under oath in a court of law?

No way!!! :)

(06-20-2014 03:52 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  That might be the party line but if ND told them they wanted full membership tommorow, somehow I dont see them telling them "Nope, sorry, AAU only!"

UConn ain't Notre Dame

neb isn't anymore and they knew that when invited so disagree- anyway..

The Association of American Universities (AAU) is an association of 62 leading public and private research universities in the United States and Canada.

Membership in AAU is by invitation and is based on the high quality of programs of academic research and scholarship and undergraduate, graduate, and professional education in a number of fields, as well as general recognition that a university is outstanding by reason of the excellence of its research and education programs. Information about AAU membership is available here.

A membership committee of AAU presidents and chancellors periodically reviews universities for AAU membership; institutions recommended for membership must be approved by a three-fourths vote of the membership.
The Association of American Universities is an association of leading comprehensive1
research universities distinguished by the breadth and quality of their programs of research and
graduate education. Membership in the association is by invitation. The association maintains a
standing Membership Committee, which periodically evaluates both non-member universities for
possible membership and current members for continued membership, with the goal of ensuring
that the association in fact comprises comparable leading research-intensive universities. Non- member universities whose research and education profile exceeds that of a number of current
members may be invited to join the association; current members whose research and education
profile falls significantly below that of other current members or below the criteria for admission
of new members will be subject to further review and possible discontinuation of membership.
While the association does not have a specific limit on the number of its members, it
values remaining a relatively small organization whose composition enables productive meetings
and collegial relationships among the member presidents and chancellors. It endeavors to
balance these characteristics of the association with the expectation that its membership will
include the leading research-intensive universities.
In its evaluation of institutions, the Membership Committee is guided by a set of
Membership Principles and Membership Indicators. The Membership Principles specify the
primary purpose of the association and the corresponding characteristics of its member
institutions. The Membership Indicators are a two-phase set of quantitative measures used to
assess the breadth and quality of university programs of research and graduate education.
In assessing potential new member universities, the evaluation of university profiles
based on the Membership Indicators is the first stage of a two-stage process used to identify
institutions that may be invited into membership. The second stage involves a more qualitative
set of judgments about an institution’s mission, characteristics, and trajectory

(06-20-2014 05:53 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:10 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 05:02 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Please don't feed the troll. It only fuels his (the OPer) hatred of all things UCONN.

I don't like to feed trolls but how is this trolling? Seems like it really does put the kibosh on Uconn hopes for the Big 10.

I don't know how familiar you are with the OPer, but he is a known hater of all things UCONN. Any article the OPer finds, that is negative (realignment-wise) towards UCONN and its fans, will be posted by this clown. It doesn't even have to involve realignment; if it's negative towards UCONN, he posts it.

I'm not familiar with him really but it's still a worthy topic imo.