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If the founding fathers lived a day in 2014......
what would be the hardest things to explain to them?

id say:

1. US/UK/NATO all being allies

2. the concept that no race/religion is inferior to another and that notion is accepted by > 90% of americans

3. the US being the lone world super power

4. The size of the federal govt and it not being considered tyranny or a dictatorship
06-20-2014 01:20 PM
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RE: If the founding fathers lived a day in 2014......
#5

That we elect senators against their expressed intent.
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Iā€™m going with the designated hitter, yard gnomes and airplanes.
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(06-20-2014 01:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  #5

That we elect senators against their expressed intent.

i thought my #4 covered that to a certain extent. i still am a little bitter about the stupid republic/democracy debate and didn't wanna go down that road again.
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RE: If the founding fathers lived a day in 2014......
4) they would have been appalled at the behemoth that dominates our lives in DC.
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RE: If the founding fathers lived a day in 2014......
I'd have to go with #4. They didn't envision either legislative house being a full time job. Much less the extent to which the bureaucracy has grown.
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(06-20-2014 02:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(06-20-2014 01:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  #5

That we elect senators against their expressed intent.

i thought my #4 covered that to a certain extent. i still am a little bitter about the stupid republic/democracy debate and didn't wanna go down that road again.

Oh okay.

I must have missed that debate. My bad.
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RE: If the founding fathers lived a day in 2014......
To add to it, and to expand on #4, I'd say the APA.

The founding father's would be disgusted by the APA and everything about it.

Oh, and technically not entirely part of #4 but related to it, the Federal Reserve. I think even Hamilton is still rolling over in his grave over that.
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RE: If the founding fathers lived a day in 2014......
(06-20-2014 01:20 PM)john01992 Wrote:  what would be the hardest things to explain to them?

id say:


1. US/UK/NATO all being allies - i dunno that this would be hard to explain. just as in their time alliances where often created and dissolved.

2. the concept that no race/religion is inferior to another and that notion is accepted by > 90% of americans - again i dont think this would be hard to explain. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

3. the US being the lone world super power - At the time we had just beaten the greatest superpower of the day, i don't know that it would be to hard to explain. they could just point to Europe's devastation after both world wars and its easy to understand why we became a super power.

4. The size of the federal govt and it not being considered tyranny or a dictatorshipthis one would be the hardest to explain, not even just the size of the federal government but also the complexity of regulations and rules
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ā€œI wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its Constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal government the power of borrowing.ā€ ā€“ Thomas Jefferson
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Professional Politicians......Nat'l Debt.......Our Legal System...Entitlement Attitude....Welfare.....
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That the industrial revolution would change everything.
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That we elect incompetent buffoons to public office.
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IMO the hardest thing to explain would be why this country is so screwed up. I think they'd look at England and wonder why they bothered to revolt in the first place.
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The founding fathers were sophisticated strategic thinkers so the rise of America as a continental or global power wouldn't be a surprise.

The rise of the consumer and the diversity of consumer and lifestyle options might be a big shocker. People today are not segregated by wealth but by lifestyle.

For instance a Redneck will spend 50,000 on a pick up truck while he buys his clothing with Marlboro Points. Its not money that is driving things it is priorities. Having a killer truck trumps all else.

Others spend all of their income on foreign travel while refusing to go anywhere in the US. Some have a lake retreat they go to every year.
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How the NSA and the Patriot Act somehow DON'T violate the 4th Amendment.
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(06-20-2014 01:20 PM)john01992 Wrote:  what would be the hardest things to explain to them?

1. Why we have allowed the federal government to continually annex power from the states and become the domineering monstrosity it is.

2. Why we have people and government officials pushing moral decay upon society.

3. Why we have a significant portion of society who simply does not participate in the electoral process.
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If the founding fathers lived a day in 2014...... they would take up arms and continue the fight.
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What a troll is.
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(06-27-2014 04:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  What a troll is.
A man who interjects into a conversation, when he has nothing constructive to say. So he tries to be cute, and ends up being a smarta*s instead.
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