(06-20-2014 08:13 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [quote='CliftonAve' pid='10849675' dateline='1403297287']
You are comparing apples to oranges.
There have been plenty of players leave a G5 school to do to a P5 school. It has not been done on a large scale because the players had to sit out a year, thus delaying their timeliness of entering the NFL.
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Reply----What do you mean by plenty? You admit it has not been done on a large scale. But IMO it is not because of delaying their entering ther NFL.
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The players leaving a P5 school to go to a G5 school for playing opportunities haven't proven themselves yet. They can afford to wait that extra year to get familiar with their new surroundings, system, coaches, teammates, etc.
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Reply------those players are not even thinking NFL..they just want to play and this will give them that opportunity without losing a year on the bench.
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I agree with Clifton. What he is saying is, typically the reason a player would transfer "up" is that he has shown he is good enough to play at a high level, and wants to prove it against better competition, so to speak. This would be someone who has made a name for himself, likely, and is probably already on the radar of the NFL or whatnot. Those types, have little incentive to voluntarily leave and sit out a year. Thus you see few who do so. Many who transfer "down" so to speak, do so because of lack of PT or opportunity. Thus as he said, they are not "Delaying" any pro opportunity, because right now they really don't have one.
Now to your point, you are right, there really is no "proof" that this would happen. It is just conjecture. But you do see it a lot more in college basketball, where potential pro careers are longer anyway (thus the loss of a year is less of a big deal) and where smaller school players are handicapped a lot more in the NBA draft than in the NFL draft. You see a lot more G5 to P5 transfers in basketball for just this reason. So I can understand with and agree with his prediction.
Now here is my thought. I think you all are all looking at the wrong area for talent drain. I don't think it is the starters you have to worry about leaving: it is the backups. Why? Because backups can and will get drafted at major programs. Smaller ones: not so much. If you are backing up at a G5 school, or even a less successful P5 school, if you are not starting and given enough shots to make an impact, it can be easy to be persuaded to transfer to a school like USC, Alabama, Florida, or Ohio State, where they can show that their backup players get drafted and camp invites, over starters from other schools. Or for that matter, you can sell a player on the fact that if you aren't going to start anyway, you can "not start" here and get a ring. A move a player would not make if they have to sit out, but may consider if they can move and play right away.
to me, that is the biggest concern.