(06-21-2014 05:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 09:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:22 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 04:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:38 AM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  Totally dodged the question. In the other thread you ranked ECU as the 4th best team in the AAC. . . you backpedaled by saying that you didn't think they would finish there only start. So who do you think will finished ahead of ECU.

I didn't backpedal at all, I just explained the difference between what I think the pre-season top 10 will be and what I think the actual final top-10 will be.

FWIW, I figure ECU to finish behind Cincy, UCF, USF, Houston, and UConn. Sixth place sounds about right for the co-third C-USA team.

Dude, stop, just stop

Go ahead and show some from the Marshall game. :rolleyes:

Bottom line: a third place C-USA finish is no basis for tapping ECU for great things in the AAC.

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Bottom line...a 2nd place CUSA team was picked to finish 4th in the AAC last year and went UNDEFEATED in Conf Play, finished with a 12-1 record...which included beating #6 Baylor in the last BCS Fiesta Bowl.

Yeah...its impossible for a good team from CUSA to perform well in AAC....NOT.

What a shock...quo is trolling again.

I don't blame him, he rides the short bus......

(06-21-2014 05:43 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 09:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 08:22 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 04:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:38 AM)EastCarolinaU. Wrote:  Totally dodged the question. In the other thread you ranked ECU as the 4th best team in the AAC. . . you backpedaled by saying that you didn't think they would finish there only start. So who do you think will finished ahead of ECU.

I didn't backpedal at all, I just explained the difference between what I think the pre-season top 10 will be and what I think the actual final top-10 will be.

FWIW, I figure ECU to finish behind Cincy, UCF, USF, Houston, and UConn. Sixth place sounds about right for the co-third C-USA team.

Dude, stop, just stop

Go ahead and show some from the Marshall game. :rolleyes:

Bottom line: a third place C-USA finish is no basis for tapping ECU for great things in the AAC.

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Bottom line...a 2nd place CUSA team was picked to finish 4th in the AAC last year and went UNDEFEATED in Conf Play, finished with a 12-1 record...which included beating #6 Baylor in the last BCS Fiesta Bowl.

Yeah...its impossible for a good team from CUSA to perform well in AAC....NOT.

What a shock...quo is trolling again.

Nobody ever said it is IMPOSSIBLE for ECU to have a great season this year, even win the AAC. So as usual knightlight is trolling, or else maybe you just aren't very bright?

Point is, there seems to be excessive enthusiasm for a team that finished tied for 3rd in C-USA. A rump C-USA that had been stripped of its better teams like Houston and UCF.

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Tulsa won CUSA when UCF finished #2, then turned around and crapped the bed in a weaker CUSA while UCF won the American. Judging a team based on the performance of the previous year is a surefire way to be let down. That's why we look into returning players, players that are stepping up, coaches, etc....not "well, we finished 3rd place in CUSA last year, so we're definitely going to be top 4 in the American."

(06-21-2014 04:22 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Tulsa won CUSA when UCF finished #2, then turned around and crapped the bed in a weaker CUSA while UCF won the American. Judging a team based on the performance of the previous year is a surefire way to be let down. That's why we look into returning players, players that are stepping up, coaches, etc....

Who is conducting in depth analyses? Clearly what is going on is people are looking at ECU winning 10 games last year and projecting, forgetting they finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA.

Not much to analyze independent of what happened last year anyway, because how can you think a 'returning player' will be good except by projecting what he did last year ?

You are correct that judging a team based on last year is very treacherous, but it happens all the time, like here. Heck, what explains UCF fans acting like their team has permanently entered the conference elite, rather than viewing last year as a one-Bortles wonder?

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(06-21-2014 05:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 04:22 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Tulsa won CUSA when UCF finished #2, then turned around and crapped the bed in a weaker CUSA while UCF won the American. Judging a team based on the performance of the previous year is a surefire way to be let down. That's why we look into returning players, players that are stepping up, coaches, etc....

Who is conducting in depth analyses? Clearly what is going on is people are looking at ECU winning 10 games last year and projecting, forgetting they finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA.

Not much to analyze independent of what happened last year anyway, because how can you think a 'returning player' will be good except by projecting what he did last year ?

You are correct that judging a team based on last year is very treacherous, but it happens all the time, like here. Heck, what explains UCF fans acting like their team has permanently entered the conference elite, rather than viewing last year as a one-Bortles wonder?

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Bortles wasn't a one year wonder, nor is Shane Carden. Keep dismissing ECU based on two road games, only two games. Keep thinking your two win team is better than our team that won 10. Of our 3 loses two were less than 7 points, VT by 5 and Tulane 3 in double OT, only one was more than 20. You want to dis ECU and place USF above ECU, but you lost to FAU, while we beat them. That makes me think USF would have struggled last year in CUSA and wouldn't have been able to finish top half of the eastern div. USF would have been behind ECU, Marshall, MTSU, FAU, and probably FIU, being able to only beat UAB and USM. So pipe down Sally.

(06-22-2014 05:19 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 05:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 04:22 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Tulsa won CUSA when UCF finished #2, then turned around and crapped the bed in a weaker CUSA while UCF won the American. Judging a team based on the performance of the previous year is a surefire way to be let down. That's why we look into returning players, players that are stepping up, coaches, etc....

Who is conducting in depth analyses? Clearly what is going on is people are looking at ECU winning 10 games last year and projecting, forgetting they finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA.

Not much to analyze independent of what happened last year anyway, because how can you think a 'returning player' will be good except by projecting what he did last year ?

You are correct that judging a team based on last year is very treacherous, but it happens all the time, like here. Heck, what explains UCF fans acting like their team has permanently entered the conference elite, rather than viewing last year as a one-Bortles wonder?

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Bortles wasn't a one year wonder, nor is Shane Carden. Keep dismissing ECU based on two road games, only two games.

I'm not the one talking about last year. Why would I? USF was awful and I've never said otherwise.

What I've said is I've been surprised by (a) people thinking that success in a rump C-USA means ECU is a favorite in the AAC this year, and (b) UCF fans acting like UCF has permanently entered the conference elite based on one year, which could be a fluke, or the product of having a top-3 draft pick QB who isn't there anymore.

As for the Bulls, think USF will finish ahead of ECU this year because I think our coach is turning things around and the team will be greatly improved. Could I be wrong? Of course, that's why the games will be played.

(06-22-2014 07:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 05:19 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 05:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 04:22 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Tulsa won CUSA when UCF finished #2, then turned around and crapped the bed in a weaker CUSA while UCF won the American. Judging a team based on the performance of the previous year is a surefire way to be let down. That's why we look into returning players, players that are stepping up, coaches, etc....

Who is conducting in depth analyses? Clearly what is going on is people are looking at ECU winning 10 games last year and projecting, forgetting they finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA.

Not much to analyze independent of what happened last year anyway, because how can you think a 'returning player' will be good except by projecting what he did last year ?

You are correct that judging a team based on last year is very treacherous, but it happens all the time, like here. Heck, what explains UCF fans acting like their team has permanently entered the conference elite, rather than viewing last year as a one-Bortles wonder?

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Bortles wasn't a one year wonder, nor is Shane Carden. Keep dismissing ECU based on two road games, only two games.

I'm not the one talking about last year. Why would I? USF was awful and I've never said otherwise.

What I've said is I've been surprised by (a) people thinking that success in a rump C-USA means ECU is a favorite in the AAC this year, and (b) UCF fans acting like UCF has permanently entered the conference elite based on one year, which could be a fluke, or the product of having a top-3 draft pick QB who isn't there anymore.

As for the Bulls, think USF will finish ahead of ECU this year because I think our coach is turning things around and the team will be greatly improved. Could I be wrong? Of course, that's why the games will be played.

Legend in your own mind..realty is reality.. Your team sucks..good luck against Mcneese.. Wow what a loser...

(06-22-2014 08:13 AM)Pirateoracle Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 05:19 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 05:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 04:22 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Tulsa won CUSA when UCF finished #2, then turned around and crapped the bed in a weaker CUSA while UCF won the American. Judging a team based on the performance of the previous year is a surefire way to be let down. That's why we look into returning players, players that are stepping up, coaches, etc....

Who is conducting in depth analyses? Clearly what is going on is people are looking at ECU winning 10 games last year and projecting, forgetting they finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA.

Not much to analyze independent of what happened last year anyway, because how can you think a 'returning player' will be good except by projecting what he did last year ?

You are correct that judging a team based on last year is very treacherous, but it happens all the time, like here. Heck, what explains UCF fans acting like their team has permanently entered the conference elite, rather than viewing last year as a one-Bortles wonder?

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Bortles wasn't a one year wonder, nor is Shane Carden. Keep dismissing ECU based on two road games, only two games.

I'm not the one talking about last year. Why would I? USF was awful and I've never said otherwise.

What I've said is I've been surprised by (a) people thinking that success in a rump C-USA means ECU is a favorite in the AAC this year, and (b) UCF fans acting like UCF has permanently entered the conference elite based on one year, which could be a fluke, or the product of having a top-3 draft pick QB who isn't there anymore.

As for the Bulls, think USF will finish ahead of ECU this year because I think our coach is turning things around and the team will be greatly improved. Could I be wrong? Of course, that's why the games will be played.

Legend in your own mind..realty is reality.. Your team sucks..good luck against Mcneese.. Wow what a loser...

What a sorry representative of ECU fan base.

(06-22-2014 08:15 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:13 AM)Pirateoracle Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 05:19 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 05:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Who is conducting in depth analyses? Clearly what is going on is people are looking at ECU winning 10 games last year and projecting, forgetting they finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA.

Not much to analyze independent of what happened last year anyway, because how can you think a 'returning player' will be good except by projecting what he did last year ?

You are correct that judging a team based on last year is very treacherous, but it happens all the time, like here. Heck, what explains UCF fans acting like their team has permanently entered the conference elite, rather than viewing last year as a one-Bortles wonder?

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Bortles wasn't a one year wonder, nor is Shane Carden. Keep dismissing ECU based on two road games, only two games.

I'm not the one talking about last year. Why would I? USF was awful and I've never said otherwise.

What I've said is I've been surprised by (a) people thinking that success in a rump C-USA means ECU is a favorite in the AAC this year, and (b) UCF fans acting like UCF has permanently entered the conference elite based on one year, which could be a fluke, or the product of having a top-3 draft pick QB who isn't there anymore.

As for the Bulls, think USF will finish ahead of ECU this year because I think our coach is turning things around and the team will be greatly improved. Could I be wrong? Of course, that's why the games will be played.

Legend in your own mind..realty is reality.. Your team sucks..good luck against Mcneese.. Wow what a loser...

What a sorry representative of ECU fan base.

Your game is a little weak this morning Quo. You should finish that coffee first. That will sharpen that butter knife like wit of yours. Oh and.....

Stop dragging UCF into your argument with an ECU fan.

winning cusa is one thing....winning the AAC will be another. ECU fans are aware of this (I assume).

(06-22-2014 08:49 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  winning cusa is one thing....winning the AAC will be another. ECU fans are aware of this (I assume).

From what they've been posting, it sure doesn't seem like it.

(06-22-2014 08:44 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  Stop dragging UCF into your argument with an ECU fan.

I would, but the parallels are just too obvious. I will say that at least in UCF's case, you guys did actually get it done in the AAC.

What surprises me the most here isn't that ECU fans are baselessly optimistic about ECU's chances, all fan bases are like that about their schools (I think USF will be much better this coming year, but admit there's no basis for that belief other than my fervent hope), rather it's that so many fans of other schools seem to think that because ECU finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA that they are a favorite in this year's AAC. Somewhat bizarro.

(06-22-2014 08:15 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:13 AM)Pirateoracle Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 05:19 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-21-2014 05:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Who is conducting in depth analyses? Clearly what is going on is people are looking at ECU winning 10 games last year and projecting, forgetting they finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA.

Not much to analyze independent of what happened last year anyway, because how can you think a 'returning player' will be good except by projecting what he did last year ?

You are correct that judging a team based on last year is very treacherous, but it happens all the time, like here. Heck, what explains UCF fans acting like their team has permanently entered the conference elite, rather than viewing last year as a one-Bortles wonder?

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Bortles wasn't a one year wonder, nor is Shane Carden. Keep dismissing ECU based on two road games, only two games.

I'm not the one talking about last year. Why would I? USF was awful and I've never said otherwise.

What I've said is I've been surprised by (a) people thinking that success in a rump C-USA means ECU is a favorite in the AAC this year, and (b) UCF fans acting like UCF has permanently entered the conference elite based on one year, which could be a fluke, or the product of having a top-3 draft pick QB who isn't there anymore.

As for the Bulls, think USF will finish ahead of ECU this year because I think our coach is turning things around and the team will be greatly improved. Could I be wrong? Of course, that's why the games will be played.

Legend in your own mind..realty is reality.. Your team sucks..good luck against Mcneese.. Wow what a loser...

What a sorry representative of ECU fan base.

Bring back Leavitt..now that the USF fans are used to getting ***** slapped the players should have no problem with it.. Lmao..

So, thing are going to be turned around at USF in one season based on your opinion. While ECU will finish 6th or worse based on our finish last year in CUSA. No never mind we return our QB who is rated in the top 10 in the country, our top WR who only needs 83 catches the break the all time NCAA record, along with all of our top WR.

Quo, it's fine if you thing we won't do well this year. It fine if I think we will. Problem is you base your opinion on so little.

(06-22-2014 08:49 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  winning cusa is one thing....winning the AAC will be another. ECU fans are aware of this (I assume).

Did we win the ACC? We talking finishing top 4. Is the AAC a step up, sure, but it sure as hell ain't the SEC.

(06-22-2014 09:41 AM)Pirateoracle Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:15 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:13 AM)Pirateoracle Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 07:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 05:19 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Bortles wasn't a one year wonder, nor is Shane Carden. Keep dismissing ECU based on two road games, only two games.

I'm not the one talking about last year. Why would I? USF was awful and I've never said otherwise.

What I've said is I've been surprised by (a) people thinking that success in a rump C-USA means ECU is a favorite in the AAC this year, and (b) UCF fans acting like UCF has permanently entered the conference elite based on one year, which could be a fluke, or the product of having a top-3 draft pick QB who isn't there anymore.

As for the Bulls, think USF will finish ahead of ECU this year because I think our coach is turning things around and the team will be greatly improved. Could I be wrong? Of course, that's why the games will be played.

Legend in your own mind..realty is reality.. Your team sucks..good luck against Mcneese.. Wow what a loser...

What a sorry representative of ECU fan base.

Bring back Leavitt..now that the USF fans are used to getting ***** slapped the players should have no problem with it.. Lmao..

Little bit disrespectful, but a little bit funny too.

(06-22-2014 09:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:44 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  Stop dragging UCF into your argument with an ECU fan.

I would, but the parallels are just too obvious. I will say that at least in UCF's case, you guys did actually get it done in the AAC.

What surprises me the most here isn't that ECU fans are baselessly optimistic about ECU's chances, all fan bases are like that about their schools (I think USF will be much better this coming year, but admit there's no basis for that belief other than my fervent hope), rather it's that so many fans of other schools seem to think that because ECU finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA that they are a favorite in this year's AAC. Somewhat bizarro.

It is not baseless IDOIT. We have one of the leagues top QB's that threw for over 4,000 yards, accounted for 43 TD, 33 passing 10 rushing. Return Justin Hardy who had 114 catch for 1,284 yards and 8 TDs (ranking in the top 10 nationally). Return most of our WR corp. Have a deep RB corp that will surprise many. On D I'll put our front 7 up against anyone in this league and not afraid to say we have the best LB corp in the AAC.

So, tell me again how my feeling are baseless?

PS, gave a few detail, can go further into to detail.

(06-22-2014 09:59 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 09:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:44 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  Stop dragging UCF into your argument with an ECU fan.

I would, but the parallels are just too obvious. I will say that at least in UCF's case, you guys did actually get it done in the AAC.

What surprises me the most here isn't that ECU fans are baselessly optimistic about ECU's chances, all fan bases are like that about their schools (I think USF will be much better this coming year, but admit there's no basis for that belief other than my fervent hope), rather it's that so many fans of other schools seem to think that because ECU finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA that they are a favorite in this year's AAC. Somewhat bizarro.

It is not baseless IDOIT. We have one of the leagues top QB's that threw for over 4,000 yards, accounted for 43 TD, 33 passing 10 rushing. Return Justin Hardy who had 114 catch for 1,284 yards and 8 TDs (ranking in the top 10 nationally). Return most of our WR corp. Have a deep RB corp that will surprise many. On D I'll put our front 7 up against anyone in this league and not afraid to say we have the best LB corp in the AAC.

... All of this was accomplished for the most part against a rump C-USA that you couldn't finish better than tied for 3rd against.

You ECU fans seem to think that AAC football is the pits of the world, such that your QB and WRs that ran roughshod over most of C-USA and Carolina schools that couldn't care less about you can do the same against us?

We'll see about that.

(06-22-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 09:59 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 09:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:44 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  Stop dragging UCF into your argument with an ECU fan.

I would, but the parallels are just too obvious. I will say that at least in UCF's case, you guys did actually get it done in the AAC.

What surprises me the most here isn't that ECU fans are baselessly optimistic about ECU's chances, all fan bases are like that about their schools (I think USF will be much better this coming year, but admit there's no basis for that belief other than my fervent hope), rather it's that so many fans of other schools seem to think that because ECU finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA that they are a favorite in this year's AAC. Somewhat bizarro.

It is not baseless IDOIT. We have one of the leagues top QB's that threw for over 4,000 yards, accounted for 43 TD, 33 passing 10 rushing. Return Justin Hardy who had 114 catch for 1,284 yards and 8 TDs (ranking in the top 10 nationally). Return most of our WR corp. Have a deep RB corp that will surprise many. On D I'll put our front 7 up against anyone in this league and not afraid to say we have the best LB corp in the AAC.

... All of this was accomplished for the most part against a rump C-USA that you couldn't finish better than tied for 3rd against... .

Most of the teams in the AAC used to be in CUSA. So your thoughts fail again.

(06-22-2014 10:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 09:59 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 09:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 08:44 AM)Knightsweat Wrote:  Stop dragging UCF into your argument with an ECU fan.

I would, but the parallels are just too obvious. I will say that at least in UCF's case, you guys did actually get it done in the AAC.

What surprises me the most here isn't that ECU fans are baselessly optimistic about ECU's chances, all fan bases are like that about their schools (I think USF will be much better this coming year, but admit there's no basis for that belief other than my fervent hope), rather it's that so many fans of other schools seem to think that because ECU finished tied for 3rd in a rump C-USA that they are a favorite in this year's AAC. Somewhat bizarro.

It is not baseless IDOIT. We have one of the leagues top QB's that threw for over 4,000 yards, accounted for 43 TD, 33 passing 10 rushing. Return Justin Hardy who had 114 catch for 1,284 yards and 8 TDs (ranking in the top 10 nationally). Return most of our WR corp. Have a deep RB corp that will surprise many. On D I'll put our front 7 up against anyone in this league and not afraid to say we have the best LB corp in the AAC.

... All of this was accomplished for the most part against a rump C-USA that you couldn't finish better than tied for 3rd against.

You ECU fans seem to think that AAC football is the pits of the world, such that your QB and WRs that ran roughshod over most of C-USA and Carolina schools that couldn't care less about you can do the same against us?

We'll see about that.

Just think your team is the Pitts..you mean that sorry carolina team that beat the crap out of Cincy..your torrets is acting up again..take the meds..