(06-18-2014 10:59 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I find this as one of the biggest jokes in history. The only people I found offended by this term are white people and it's a small but vocal group of Native American's are offended. Follow the money.

Research the French and Indians. The French called Native Americans "redskins" because they painted their faces red during war and was a term of endearment.

Research just about every movie with Indians up until the 70s. It was not a term of endearment. Noone cares what the French thought 400 years ago.

(06-18-2014 11:08 AM)bluesox Wrote:  If i owned the team, i tell the DC pols, i gladly change the name if you build me a new stadium downtown on the scale of the falcons or vikings new digs. I guess a modest move would be to change the name back to braves. Yet, if i got the new stadium with all the bells, i'd probably go with more DC themed based name. I liked the USFL washington federals and the green color scheme. As for the PC rabid crowd, i find them to be a very scary bunch who have pretty much overtaken colleges these days. THe irony is college students are get f'd the most with high tuitions.

My response would be to ban public monies from any municipality or state supporting stadiums or other structures for NFL teams. The NFL doesn't have any room for arrogance. They are having a perfectly healthy team leaving a perfectly good stadium in Atlanta after only 25 years and having the city pitch in $300-$400 million.

There really ought to be a law....

It needs to go IMO it's a derogatory name that was meant to dehumanize a entire people. It harkins back to the days of, "the only good Indian is a dead Indian"

(06-18-2014 10:59 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  I find this as one of the biggest jokes in history. The only people I found offended by this term are white people and it's a small but vocal group of Native American's are offended. Follow the money.

Research the French and Indians. The French called Native Americans "redskins" because they painted their faces red during war and was a term of endearment.

Same can be said for the N-word and it's origin but that doesn't mean it's okay to use now.

I suggest the Washington Whites.

(06-18-2014 10:25 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  By doing it now, maybe they can get by with the word "Skins" and use the abbreviated wood mark. Also, they could place the iconic "R" on the helmet.

(06-18-2014 10:40 AM)goofus Wrote:  what about something like the Pigskins? Would that work?

(06-18-2014 10:58 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I really like goofus' idea of incorporating the Hogs into the new nickname. That makes a lot of sense to me as a good way to salvage their past while at the same time saving face a bit.

These posts lead me to believe officially changing it to the "Pigskins" but just using "Skins" on the primary mark and using something hog related as a secondary mark would be a pretty easy solution.

It would be similar to UT-Chattanooga changing from the Moccasins to the Mocs, incorporating a Mockingbird into their logo. To the fans, they were still the Mocs.

Daniel Snyder trademarked "Washington Warriors" a few years back. He claimed at the time the name was for an arena football league he was looking to launch, but the speculation was that it was insurance for just this case. I believe he even had logo and uniform concepts worked out, again claiming it was for arena football.

The Warriors Logo.

Change the logo to a redskin potato with football laces.

An actual lawyer may want to jump in here, but the Redskins can still claim and defend the Trademark "Redskins" against infringement and dilution based on first use in there sphere of business (football, clothing, other merchandising). They don't need USPTO registration to do that, although registration of a trademark makes it much simpler to defend in court.

The Redskins also have clear Copyright ownership over their logo of the image of an Indian head in profile. In the US these days, all images are essentially automatically copyrighted by the author of the design. Registration of the copyright isn't necessary... and in my understanding is less needed to defend a original image from copyright violations in courts than trademark registration is useful for wordmarks.

A case may have additional strength if someone is using it with their Burgundy and Gold colors, particularly if used in combination with the term "Redskins." They can even probably go after "Washington" in those colors as dilution. The intent of the knockoff manufacturer would be pretty clear, IMO.

For reference, see the Steelers suing and winning against Turtle Creek Sportswear's "generic" black & gold "Pittsburgh football" gear.

Even if the Redskins lose the appeals, I don't necessarily think the logo or nickname goes away. It seems that NFL Properties would still be able to defend against Redskin knockoffs fairly easily.

I did not realize their stajium (does Danny pronounce it the same way Jerry does?) was so "old"

now would be a good time to get rid of the (fake) "controversy" by moving the team to LA

(06-18-2014 10:18 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  This is going to be very interesting.

Obama strikes again.

I'm not a Redskins fan but this is so freaking stupid.

(06-18-2014 12:17 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  The Warriors Logo.

The Sword one looks a lot like a Tennessee Titans variant.

I didn't read the whole thread, but the decision means nothing. First, the USPTO did this once before and it was reversed on appeal. Second, losing your federal registration has nothing to do with losing trademark rights. The Redskiins still have common law rights in the mark and can enforce their rights in state court. A federal registration doesn't give you right to a name. You have those rights simply because your are using the mark The registration merely gives you some procedural rights and constructive use of the mark in all areas of the country where you don't have actual use. Redskins are using the mark throughout the 50 states, so the loss of the registration will have minimal effects. As a side note, state registrations have virtually no value at all.

Simple and easy...

(06-18-2014 01:34 PM)bostonspider Wrote:  


Simple and easy...

Sorry, Patent infringement on FSU.

(06-18-2014 01:36 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 01:34 PM)bostonspider Wrote:  


Simple and easy...

Sorry, Patent infringement on FSU.

Nothing to do with patents. Outside chance copyrights may be involved. You are thinking trademark infringement, but there is no chance. Lots of spears are used in the marketplace. Zone of protection for the mark is very small. Difficulty proving a likelihood of confusion.

The Redskins are by far my favorite NFL Team, and this is so stupid.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!

If Harry Reid doesn't like having the Redskin name force Dan Snyder to move the team to Reno.

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