(06-18-2014 09:23 AM)CardinalZen Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 09:12 AM)solohawks Wrote:  a key factor buy paying aereo you are renting an individual antenna from them. its not a community antenna. i think that is important! if you were to put an antenna at your house no problem. so what the difference if you pay someone $9 a month for the right to put an antenna in a warehouse?

I think the problem is that Aereo lets you stream the content. so there's no market restrictions. I could pay for an Aereo account for NYC to watch their stuff in Louisville, for example.

This could break down the whole TV network/Local Station economic model. I can see why networks and their member stations wouldn't like it.

I can't think of any reasons for independent stations to be opposed though.

Actually, Areo doesn't let you watch markets other than your own. You are suppose to qualify by your physical address location. I wasn't able to get Aero until San Antonio was up and running and then I only am allowed San Antonio stations.

(06-18-2014 09:08 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 08:47 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Aero is $8 a month. Xfinity in Little Rock with locals only is $12.80 and you get WGN from Chicago with that (no ESPN). For $30 I can get that channel line-up plus internet access and an intro subscription to HBO and HBOGO. With Aero I still have to pay for an internet provider.

Aero can talk about being local market only but the truth is most people can't save enough on Aero to make it competitive with Cable/Sat for there to be a lucrative market, unless people are buying out-of-market content on the sly.

That's an unreal deal. With TWC, It is $79.99 for local channels, internet access, and HBO.

New customer only deal and after 12 months it goes to $70.

My understanding is that you 'rent" and antenna from Aereo and you are merely receiving the signal from your antenna. Hence, their argument is no retransmission. You are only watching a program off your rented antenna. The locals are ticked because for $8, a person can get the locals on their roku or computer, plus a dvr. But, the locals get nothing. When you buy cable, the locals get a payment for every house. The locals are threatening to no longer broadcast over the air, just on cable, to insure payments from the cable providers continue at current levels. If Aereo transmitted your antenna signal outside the local coverage area, then you have retransmission issues and possible copyright infringement. At least that is probably what the lawyers are telling them.

Aereos market is pretty limited until they make deals with cable channels. I cant imagine sports fans being satisfied with only aereo. Its market is really ota consumers and those who pay for cable to get guaranteed quailty reception of local channels. Not a big market right off the bat

(06-18-2014 03:21 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Aereos market is pretty limited until they make deals with cable channels. I cant imagine sports fans being satisfied with only aereo. Its market is really ota consumers and those who pay for cable to get guaranteed quailty reception of local channels. Not a big market right off the bat

I don't see any reason to want it. If I can get the same channels plus one or two others like WGN for nearly the same price from local cable, why bother with Aereo?

Fox has threatened to make its broadcast channel a cable/satellite only channel, and take it off the free airwaves, if Aereo wins its case. CBS says it might do the same.

Those sound like empty threats given that few people use Aereo and only a small percentage of homes are likely to ever use Aereo even if they win in the courts. The broadcast networks would lose a lot of over-the-air viewers by doing that.

A possible alternative, if the NFL whines about Aereo and the networks want to grovel before the almighty NFL, is that the networks could black out live NFL broadcasts (and maybe other live sports) on their over-the-air signal and send NFL broadcasts only to cable/satellite operators.

The FCC will hammer the final nail in broadcast TV's coffin. Just in my 34 years on the planet, the broadcast TV band has shrunk from 82 channels (2 to 83), to 48 (2 to 51 less channels 14 and 37). Some of those changes have been hidden due to the use of virtual channels, which is why someone can still tune their TV to channel "54" even though that station is actually broadcasting on a different frequency.

Channels 2-6 are rather poor frequencies for digital broadcasting, and eventually the AM radio band will need to be retired. The FCC will also try to sell more of the spectrum to wireless providers who want ever increasing bandwidth. The broadcast TV band will eventually shrink to the point where local stations start turning in licenses.

(06-18-2014 12:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 09:08 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 08:47 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Aero is $8 a month. Xfinity in Little Rock with locals only is $12.80 and you get WGN from Chicago with that (no ESPN). For $30 I can get that channel line-up plus internet access and an intro subscription to HBO and HBOGO. With Aero I still have to pay for an internet provider.

Aero can talk about being local market only but the truth is most people can't save enough on Aero to make it competitive with Cable/Sat for there to be a lucrative market, unless people are buying out-of-market content on the sly.

That's an unreal deal. With TWC, It is $79.99 for local channels, internet access, and HBO.

New customer only deal and after 12 months it goes to $70.

Don't you love those deals? A few busy months and you don't realize you are paying $70 for basic access.

In my area on the East Coast here are my prices...

Limited Basic 18.68 (OTA, HD, WGN)

Digital Economy (OTA, HD, WGN, CNN, Disney)
12 month price (29.95)

Digital Starter (OTA, HD, WGN, CNN, Disney, ESPN2, TBS, NBC Sports)
12 month price (49.95)
+12 months (55.00 to 70.00)

Digital Preferred (OTA, HD, WGN, CNN, Disney, ESPN2, TBS, NBC Sports, NFL Network, CBS Sports, ESPNU)
12 month price (59.95)
+12 months (73.00 to 86.00)

Digital Premier (OTA, HD, WGN, CNN, Disney, ESPN2, TBS, NBC Sports, NFL Network, CBS Sports, ESPNU, HBO, Showtime, Cinemax)
12 month price (69.95)
+12 months (98.00 to 140.00)

Double Play (Internet & TV)

Digital Starter & Internet 79.99
+12 months (97.95 to 121.95)

Digital Preferred & Internet 89.99
+12 months (109.00)
+24 months (144.95 to 158.95)

If you want Internet & a TV package that has ESPNU and CBS Sports once the promotional pricing ends its 158.95 base plus another 20% in taxes and fees puts you at $190.74. This is without even having premium movie channels or home phone.

Comcast has its HD Complete Triple Play for a "special" price of 189.99 for 24 months after that its 224.99. This includes the full sports package and movie package plus home phone. 20% for equipment, taxes and fees and your bill is about $270 a month.



That is as much as the average American car payment!

(06-18-2014 08:00 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Comcast has its HD Complete Triple Play for a "special" price of 189.99 for 24 months after that its 224.99. This includes the full sports package and movie package plus home phone. 20% for equipment, taxes and fees and your bill is about $270 a month.



That is as much as the average American car payment!

My internet, cable, and phone is bundled and runs around $255 a month. That doesn't include Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu Plus memberships. Lol....kinda of ridiculous. I remember being ecstatic as a kid when we finally got cable. Prior to that, we just made due with 5 or 6 over the air broadcast networks. If I remeber correctly Houston was late to the cable party due city bickering over the awarding of contracts. When it finally arrived I think it had like 40 channels. Now I have 300 plus a bunch of on-demand options and I find we actually watch less TV these days than we did a decade ago. Though, I have found we binge watch a series when we find something we like.

Did you see the poll at the bottom of the article? 19+ percent of responders lift their programming from 'unauthorized' websites. That is a big number. The NFL, cable companies and OTA channels need to legitimize (monetize) online streaming from entities like AERO to get that 19% back. That's where all the leaking is occurring.

$250 a month for basic cable/Internet/phone? Thats insane!
I pay $72.00 to time warner to get my hd locals and 20mbps Internet. That includes wireless fee, modem fee, and taxes. I used to pay around the same for 30 mbps Internet but when I got marries by wife was not too excited about relying on an antenna. Turned out to be cheaper to get locals with slightly slower Internet.

If aereo was available in my market I would definitely take advantage of it because it would give us dvr access for a cheaper price.

(06-19-2014 02:38 AM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  Did you see the poll at the bottom of the article? 19+ percent of responders lift their programming from 'unauthorized' websites. That is a big number. The NFL, cable companies and OTA channels need to legitimize (monetize) online streaming from entities like AERO to get that 19% back. That's where all the leaking is occurring.

Well there's two things the NFL could do 1. Give Sunday Ticket to everyone instead of just Direct TV. 2. Offer an al-a-carte version of Sunday Ticket where you just get your team's games or a select few for a lower price.