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Big East almost absorbed B12 leftovers - Luck
ESPN's Brett McMurphy reports:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-expansion

"Luck's plan, which also had the support of Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich, was also to add UCF for a 12-team Big East divided into two divisions: West: Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU and Louisville; East: UConn, Cincinnati, Rutgers, West Virginia, South Florida and UCF.

"I remember thinking: 'That's not a bad conference,'" Luck said. "And we would have kept the affiliation with the (Big East) basketball schools, because they loved the addition of Kansas. They (the Big 12 schools) also liked it. They were nervous as hell, too. We had a series of phone calls. That was sort of our best option.""

I think this would have been better for almost everyone involved. Not as good as the 2009 plan to add the Big 12 remnants that would have kept Syracuse and Pitt, but still a pretty solid plan.
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(06-17-2014 06:53 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  ESPN's Brett McMurphy reports:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...-expansion

"Luck's plan, which also had the support of Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich, was also to add UCF for a 12-team Big East divided into two divisions: West: Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU and Louisville; East: UConn, Cincinnati, Rutgers, West Virginia, South Florida and UCF.

"I remember thinking: 'That's not a bad conference,'" Luck said. "And we would have kept the affiliation with the (Big East) basketball schools, because they loved the addition of Kansas. They (the Big 12 schools) also liked it. They were nervous as hell, too. We had a series of phone calls. That was sort of our best option.""

I think this would have been better for almost everyone involved. Not as good as the 2009 plan to add the Big 12 remnants that would have kept Syracuse and Pitt, but still a pretty solid plan.


This would not have been a better plan for any school in the West division or two schools in the East division.
06-17-2014 07:08 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty happy in the ACC.

That being said, I wouldn't have hated that conference. It would have been a nice consolation prize.
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(06-17-2014 07:35 AM)krux Wrote:  Yeah, I'm pretty happy in the ACC.

That being said, I wouldn't have hated that conference. It would have been a nice consolation prize.

Like our spot much better now....the ACC > over the BIG EAST/Big XII Merger...07-coffee3
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The ACC is where most in Louisville always wanted to be. I also am happy being in the ACC. I could have however lived this:

West:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Memphis
SMU
Houston
TCU
Baylor

East:
UConn
Rutgers
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
ECU
South Florida
UCF.

07-coffee3
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(06-17-2014 07:57 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The ACC is where most in Louisville always wanted to be. I also am happy being in the ACC. I could have however lived this:

West:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Memphis
SMU
Houston
TCU
Baylor

East:
UConn
Rutgers
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
ECU
South Florida
UCF.

07-coffee3

If no other B1G expansion it would have looked like this most likely:

BIG EAST
Rutgers
West Virginia
Louisville
Cincinnati
UConn
South Florida

Big XII/C-USA
Central Florida
TCU
Baylor
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State

Basketball Members
Notre Dame
DePaul
Marquette
Providence
St. John's
Seton Hall
Georgetown
Villanova
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(06-17-2014 07:57 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The ACC is where most in Louisville always wanted to be. I also am happy being in the ACC. I could have however lived this:

West:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Memphis
SMU
Houston
TCU
Baylor

East:
UConn
Rutgers
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
ECU
South Florida
UCF.

07-coffee3

Agreed although I'm not sure we were going to 16 right away. Plus the initial plan was that the soon to be Big East 9 was staying intact. So if we absorbed Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor we get to 13. Figure we add UCF, Memphis and one other in that scenario to go to 16. That'd be between ECU, Houston and SMU. I'll say we end up with ECU.

West: Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU, Baylor, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati
East: UConn, Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, UCF, USF, ECU

Not a bad looking conference at all and likely one that remains a "power conference" in the new CFP structure.

Basketball would have had some serious firepower with Kansas, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, UConn, Syracuse, Pitt and Baylor.
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(06-17-2014 09:32 AM)brista21 Wrote:  
(06-17-2014 07:57 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  The ACC is where most in Louisville always wanted to be. I also am happy being in the ACC. I could have however lived this:

West:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Memphis
SMU
Houston
TCU
Baylor

East:
UConn
Rutgers
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
ECU
South Florida
UCF.

07-coffee3

Agreed although I'm not sure we were going to 16 right away. Plus the initial plan was that the soon to be Big East 9 was staying intact. So if we absorbed Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor we get to 13. Figure we add UCF, Memphis and one other in that scenario to go to 16. That'd be between ECU, Houston and SMU. I'll say we end up with ECU.

West: Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU, Baylor, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati
East: UConn, Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, UCF, USF, ECU

Not a bad looking conference at all and likely one that remains a "power conference" in the new CFP structure.

Basketball would have had some serious firepower with Kansas, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati, UConn, Syracuse, Pitt and Baylor.

For AAC schools it would have great.
For B10 schools it would be a loss
For B12 schools it would be a loss
For ACC schools it would be a loss
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