question for Tiger baseball insiders...why does Dulin send most of his local talent to OM and not the Tigers? Is it a simple case of opportunity to play in SEC or other considerations?

Why wouldn't they is the better question.

(06-15-2014 01:32 PM)cordovamillingtontiger Wrote:  question for Tiger baseball insiders...why does Dulin send most of his local talent to OM and not the Tigers? Is it a simple case of opportunity to play in SEC or other considerations?

Wrong assumption. Tim doesn't send players anywhere. He does everything he can to showcase talent. It's up to Memphis coaches to recruit local talent.

Germantown, Houston, Collierviller, Bartlett and newer to the table Arlington as well as local private schools produce the talent Memphis needs to build (rebuild) a great program. I thought FEDEX Field would be the catalyst to resurrect a once proud and successful program but most of the best talent slips away to the SEC.

To be fair some of the same issues that impact football are in play. SEC baseball is elite. Social-economic dynamics tend to promote leaving town for college.

Other CUSA and now AAC schools have built consistent winners. It's time for coach Rock to do the same.

I heard Dulin doesn't even run the thing anymore. Someone else is handling the financial part as well.

(06-15-2014 07:47 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 01:32 PM)cordovamillingtontiger Wrote:  question for Tiger baseball insiders...why does Dulin send most of his local talent to OM and not the Tigers? Is it a simple case of opportunity to play in SEC or other considerations?

Wrong assumption. Tim doesn't send players anywhere. He does everything he can to showcase talent. It's up to Memphis coaches to recruit local talent.

Germantown, Houston, Collierviller, Bartlett and newer to the table Arlington as well as local private schools produce the talent Memphis needs to build (rebuild) a great program. I thought FEDEX Field would be the catalyst to resurrect a once proud and successful program but most of the best talent slips away to the SEC.

To be fair some of the same issues that impact football are in play. SEC baseball is elite. Social-economic dynamics tend to promote leaving town for college.

Other CUSA and now AAC schools have built consistent winners. It's time for coach Rock to do the same.

thanks for explanation and clarification. here's hoping tigers can start getting their share of the hometown talent.

Rock has already proven he can't recruit and maintain the top talent in the Memphis area. He's had now 5 years to do something and continues to fail. Time for a new coach with a new approach!!

(06-15-2014 07:47 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 01:32 PM)cordovamillingtontiger Wrote:  question for Tiger baseball insiders...why does Dulin send most of his local talent to OM and not the Tigers? Is it a simple case of opportunity to play in SEC or other considerations?

Wrong assumption. Tim doesn't send players anywhere. He does everything he can to showcase talent. It's up to Memphis coaches to recruit local talent.

Germantown, Houston, Collierviller, Bartlett and newer to the table Arlington as well as local private schools produce the talent Memphis needs to build (rebuild) a great program. I thought FEDEX Field would be the catalyst to resurrect a once proud and successful program but most of the best talent slips away to the SEC.

To be fair some of the same issues that impact football are in play. SEC baseball is elite. Social-economic dynamics tend to promote leaving town for college.

Other CUSA and now AAC schools have built consistent winners. It's time for coach Rock to do the same.

Wahoo!!!! for the Black Bears

(06-15-2014 01:40 PM)Rob Wrote:  Why wouldn't they is the better question.

Exactly. Ole Miss has been to a handful of super regionals and now the CWS in the last 6 or 7 years. They play in front of 8000+ every home SEC game and its arguably the best atmosphere in college baseball. Not to mention, the SEC is the best baseball conf in America. If you were a high level baseball player in this area why would you choose to play at Memphis over Ole Miss?

The same scenario that applies to kids locally in hoops (why the hell would any high level kid pick OM over the Tigers) applies in baseball, just that the shoe is on the other foot.

Oh, and Bianco lost that game for them last night. Kept the righty in to face a LHB who happens to be Virginia's best hitter and then actually pitched to him with a base open.

(06-16-2014 07:14 AM)MemphisTiger15 Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 01:40 PM)Rob Wrote:  Why wouldn't they is the better question.

Exactly. Ole Miss has been to a handful of super regionals and now the CWS in the last 6 or 7 years. They play in front of 8000+ every home SEC game and its arguably the best atmosphere in college baseball. Not to mention, the SEC is the best baseball conf in America. If you were a high level baseball player in this area why would you choose to play at Memphis over Ole Miss?

The same scenario that applies to kids locally in hoops (why the hell would any high level kid pick OM over the Tigers) applies in baseball, just that the shoe is on the other foot.

Oh, and Bianco lost that game for them last night. Kept the righty in to face a LHB who happens to be Virginia's best hitter and then actually pitched to him with a base open.

You sure seem to know a lot about Ole Pi$$. You and one of the other usual suspects with the same negative stuff that makes little or no sense...

Quote:The same scenario that applies to kids locally in hoops (why the hell would any high level kid pick OM over the Tigers) applies in baseball, just that the shoe is on the other foot.

Give me a list of all of the Mississippi talent that has played for the Tigers in basketball. Start the list 15 years ago with Earl Barron and let me know what you come up with. Maybe Rob can help you out.

Who cares about basketball? This thread is about baseball. My point is that if the U of M wants talented players to come here, and this applies to any sport, it's on us to get them here. No use blaming anyone else.

(06-16-2014 07:56 AM)Rob Wrote:  Who cares about basketball? This thread is about baseball. My point is that if the U of M wants talented players to come here, and this applies to any sport, it's on us to get them here. No use blaming anyone else.

You can't think of a single reason why a former Memphis State All American, who lives in Memphis and runs a camp in Memphis would steer any of his players to us? Awesome. Typical.

(06-15-2014 01:32 PM)cordovamillingtontiger Wrote:  question for Tiger baseball insiders...why does Dulin send most of his local talent to OM and not the Tigers? Is it a simple case of opportunity to play in SEC or other considerations?

In my humble opinion Memphis missed its chance to dominate local recruits when they passed on Germantown legend Phil Clark as head coach. Big mistake.

You reap what you sow.

(06-15-2014 10:07 PM)FranklinTNTiger Wrote:  Rock has already proven he can't recruit and maintain the top talent in the Memphis area. He's had now 5 years to do something and continues to fail. Time for a new coach with a new approach!!

(1) Year before last, Rock was voted C-USA coach of the year.

(2) This year's team beat every school in the AAC at least once, Ole Miss and Miss State on the road and came very close to playing in the championship game in the AAC tournament (we needed for Rutgers to beat Louisville).

(3) No matter who our coach is, recruiting is going to be difficult here until local media attention and consequent poor fan support improves.

(4) Schoenrock's job is completely safe. Tom Bowen is smart enough to know how lucky we are to have him.

(06-16-2014 08:30 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  In my humble opinion Memphis missed its chance to dominate local recruits when they passed on Germantown legend Phil Clark as head coach. Big mistake.

Being a successful high school coach does not guarantee success in college. Phil Clark had no experience in college baseball, where knowing the ins and outs of recruiting is crucial. Rock knows what he is doing. His background as an MLB pitching coach and as a pitching/assistant head coach at Georgia and Miss State made him extremely qualified.

(06-16-2014 08:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 07:56 AM)Rob Wrote:  Who cares about basketball? This thread is about baseball. My point is that if the U of M wants talented players to come here, and this applies to any sport, it's on us to get them here. No use blaming anyone else.

You can't think of a single reason why a former Memphis State All American, who lives in Memphis and runs a camp in Memphis would steer any of his players to us? Awesome. Typical.

If he wants what's best for the kids, and he honestly looks at the situation and decides Memphis isn't it, I can respect that.

(06-15-2014 08:05 PM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  I heard Dulin doesn't even run the thing anymore. Someone else is handling the financial part as well.

Yep. Wes went so far at one point to remove all of the signage from the building. Tim doesn't pay his bills. Never has.

(06-15-2014 07:47 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Other CUSA and now AAC schools have built consistent winners. It's time for coach Rock to do the same.

If anybody can, he will. If people would come out and attend a few games every year, it would be much easier. I am willing to bet that the majority of people in this town who call themselves "Tiger fans" have never even been out to see Fed Ex Park.

(06-16-2014 08:44 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 08:15 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 07:56 AM)Rob Wrote:  Who cares about basketball? This thread is about baseball. My point is that if the U of M wants talented players to come here, and this applies to any sport, it's on us to get them here. No use blaming anyone else.

You can't think of a single reason why a former Memphis State All American, who lives in Memphis and runs a camp in Memphis would steer any of his players to us? Awesome. Typical.

If he wants what's best for the kids, and he honestly looks at the situation and decides Memphis isn't it, I can respect that.

there are a lot of former Tiger baseball player who share that view.

(06-16-2014 07:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  You sure seem to know a lot about Ole Pi$$. You and one of the other usual suspects with the same negative stuff that makes little or no sense...

Give me a list of all of the Mississippi talent that has played for the Tigers in basketball. Start the list 15 years ago with Earl Barron and let me know what you come up with. Maybe Rob can help you out.

Well, I'm friends and drinking buddies with a bunch of Rebels so yeah I know a good bit about them.

As for local kids--- that would mean in Memphis/ Shelby for either sport. But since you asked--- according to a few players, tweets, etc the BEST SHOOTER ON THE CURRENT TIGER TEAM IS FROM WAYNESBORO, MISS.

(06-16-2014 08:45 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  

(06-15-2014 08:05 PM)Downtown Tiger Wrote:  I heard Dulin doesn't even run the thing anymore. Someone else is handling the financial part as well.

Yep. Wes went so far at one point to remove all of the signage from the building. Tim doesn't pay his bills. Never has.

TrUeth