(06-11-2014 07:41 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Would the American be agreeable to something like this?

The American representative to the Access Bowl shall be the higher ranked of:

1. The American Conference Champion, or
2. BYU

Provided that BYU plays a minimum of 10 games against American, MWC and P5 schools, including a minimum of five American schools (at least two of which are on the road) and two P5 schools.

If BYU does not play the required games, it is not eligible to represent the American conference.

In the event the American Conference Champion or BYU shall make an appearance in the Access Bowl, the net bowl payment earned after reimbursement of the team's travel costs shall be shared equally between all 13 schools assuming BYU played the required games. Otherwise, it will be shared by the 12 full members of the American.

Not even no. HELL NO

(06-12-2014 01:33 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 05:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  That said, the Desert News is owned by the LDS Church and is generally the mouth piece of that organization. So, I'd say the fact that an opinion piece in the Desert News is throwing the following quote out there can only be interpreted as good news for the AAC.

The Deseret (not Desert) News (means "Honeybee" in Hebrew) is nothing close to a mouth piece for the LDS Church. In fact, it's sports articles are pretty funny sometimes (as in poorly crafted and off track). Journalist Dick Harmon is a legitimate BYU insider (as far as journalists go), but that's about the extent of the Deseret's News speaking for BYU or the LDS Church.

By the way, the best part of Deseret News' BYU sports articles online is all the smack from Ute fans. Seriously, Ute fans comment more on BYU articles than they read articles about the UofU.

Anyway, the suggestion to allow BYU to have the American's access bowl eligibility is crazy. Of course, as a BYU fan, I would love that. But there's no way in the world that the American would or should do anything like that. Why?

With that said, I think a more realistic option (if not full membership or at least football only) would be a 4 or 5 game scheduling and bowl game affiliation, IF BYU can help the American improve its bowl options. I think BYU could help the American land the Las Vegas Bowl versus the PAC 12, if the American wants that.

For now, I don't see a huge need for a formal affiliation. As Aresco has stated, there is already a quasi-affiliation. And that can continue. BYU and the American might just find that they are a good fit for each other and the quasi-affiliation could eventually lead to membership.

So, for now, I say let's just keep looking to schedule games with each other and look at the Las Vegas Bowl, if that's interesting to the American.

yeah, keep looking at the Vegas bowl all you want YBU. I'm sure they would love to jeopardize their relationship with the MWC who sends their top team there every year and plays their conference basketball tournament at the T&M every year.--always a huge money maker for UNLV and the city.

(06-13-2014 06:02 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 01:33 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 05:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  That said, the Desert News is owned by the LDS Church and is generally the mouth piece of that organization. So, I'd say the fact that an opinion piece in the Desert News is throwing the following quote out there can only be interpreted as good news for the AAC.

The Deseret (not Desert) News (means "Honeybee" in Hebrew) is nothing close to a mouth piece for the LDS Church. In fact, it's sports articles are pretty funny sometimes (as in poorly crafted and off track). Journalist Dick Harmon is a legitimate BYU insider (as far as journalists go), but that's about the extent of the Deseret's News speaking for BYU or the LDS Church.

By the way, the best part of Deseret News' BYU sports articles online is all the smack from Ute fans. Seriously, Ute fans comment more on BYU articles than they read articles about the UofU.

Anyway, the suggestion to allow BYU to have the American's access bowl eligibility is crazy. Of course, as a BYU fan, I would love that. But there's no way in the world that the American would or should do anything like that. Why?

With that said, I think a more realistic option (if not full membership or at least football only) would be a 4 or 5 game scheduling and bowl game affiliation, IF BYU can help the American improve its bowl options. I think BYU could help the American land the Las Vegas Bowl versus the PAC 12, if the American wants that.

For now, I don't see a huge need for a formal affiliation. As Aresco has stated, there is already a quasi-affiliation. And that can continue. BYU and the American might just find that they are a good fit for each other and the quasi-affiliation could eventually lead to membership.

So, for now, I say let's just keep looking to schedule games with each other and look at the Las Vegas Bowl, if that's interesting to the American.

yeah, keep looking at the Vegas bowl all you want YBU. I'm sure they would love to jeopardize their relationship with the MWC who sends their top team there every year and plays their conference basketball tournament at the T&M every year.--always a huge money maker for UNLV and the city.

I think the Las Vegas Bowl likes BYU just fine, taking BYU 5 straight years and every one of them were 40,000+ sellouts (stadium seats 38,000+)...

although byu may feel superior they actually wouldn't be the best team in the acc. But they would have a great chance at the playoffs if they were to go undefeated in the American. They and us are weaker apart but if espn deem tjat merger a good deal they will make it happen.

(06-13-2014 06:32 PM)E-zone Wrote:  

(06-13-2014 06:02 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 01:33 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(06-11-2014 05:52 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  That said, the Desert News is owned by the LDS Church and is generally the mouth piece of that organization. So, I'd say the fact that an opinion piece in the Desert News is throwing the following quote out there can only be interpreted as good news for the AAC.

The Deseret (not Desert) News (means "Honeybee" in Hebrew) is nothing close to a mouth piece for the LDS Church. In fact, it's sports articles are pretty funny sometimes (as in poorly crafted and off track). Journalist Dick Harmon is a legitimate BYU insider (as far as journalists go), but that's about the extent of the Deseret's News speaking for BYU or the LDS Church.

By the way, the best part of Deseret News' BYU sports articles online is all the smack from Ute fans. Seriously, Ute fans comment more on BYU articles than they read articles about the UofU.

Anyway, the suggestion to allow BYU to have the American's access bowl eligibility is crazy. Of course, as a BYU fan, I would love that. But there's no way in the world that the American would or should do anything like that. Why?

With that said, I think a more realistic option (if not full membership or at least football only) would be a 4 or 5 game scheduling and bowl game affiliation, IF BYU can help the American improve its bowl options. I think BYU could help the American land the Las Vegas Bowl versus the PAC 12, if the American wants that.

For now, I don't see a huge need for a formal affiliation. As Aresco has stated, there is already a quasi-affiliation. And that can continue. BYU and the American might just find that they are a good fit for each other and the quasi-affiliation could eventually lead to membership.

So, for now, I say let's just keep looking to schedule games with each other and look at the Las Vegas Bowl, if that's interesting to the American.

yeah, keep looking at the Vegas bowl all you want YBU. I'm sure they would love to jeopardize their relationship with the MWC who sends their top team there every year and plays their conference basketball tournament at the T&M every year.--always a huge money maker for UNLV and the city.

I think the Las Vegas Bowl likes BYU just fine, taking BYU 5 straight years and every one of them were 40,000+ sellouts (stadium seats 38,000+)...

Yes, but modt Mormans do not drink or gamble.

(06-13-2014 06:32 PM)E-zone Wrote:  

(06-13-2014 06:02 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-12-2014 01:33 PM)YNot Wrote:  [quote='Attackcoog' pid='10827093' dateline='1402527158']
That said, the Desert News is owned by the LDS Church and is generally the mouth piece of that organization. So, I'd say the fact that an opinion piece in the Desert News is throwing the following quote out there can only be interpreted as good news for the AAC.

The Deseret (not Desert) News (means "Honeybee" in Hebrew) is nothing close to a mouth piece for the LDS Church. In fact, it's sports articles are pretty funny sometimes (as in poorly crafted and off track). Journalist Dick Harmon is a legitimate BYU insider (as far as journalists go), but that's about the extent of the Deseret's News speaking for BYU or the LDS Church.

By the way, the best part of Deseret News' BYU sports articles online is all the smack from Ute fans. Seriously, Ute fans comment more on BYU articles than they read articles about the UofU.

Anyway, the suggestion to allow BYU to have the American's access bowl eligibility is crazy. Of course, as a BYU fan, I would love that. But there's no way in the world that the American would or should do anything like that. Why?

With that said, I think a more realistic option (if not full membership or at least football only) would be a 4 or 5 game scheduling and bowl game affiliation, IF BYU can help the American improve its bowl options. I think BYU could help the American land the Las Vegas Bowl versus the PAC 12, if the American wants that.

For now, I don't see a huge need for a formal affiliation. As Aresco has stated, there is already a quasi-affiliation. And that can continue. BYU and the American might just find that they are a good fit for each other and the quasi-affiliation could eventually lead to membership.

So, for now, I say let's just keep looking to schedule games with each other and look at the Las Vegas Bowl, if that's interesting to the American.

yeah, keep looking at the Vegas bowl all you want YBU. I'm sure they would love to jeopardize their relationship with the MWC who sends their top team there every year and plays their conference basketball tournament at the T&M every year.--always a huge money maker for UNLV and the city.

I think the Las Vegas Bowl likes BYU just fine, taking BYU 5 straight years and every one of them were 40,000+ sellouts (stadium seats 38,000+)...




yep, then BYU went independent. BYU played in the Las Vegas last in 2009. They havnt played in that bowl since and won't play in it again for years. Just look at the bowl lineup set for the next 5, 6 years. Conference matchups are set. No BYU.

I wouldn't mind letting BYU into our Bowl Pool in exchange for 4 or 5 games a year IF there were some guarantee it would actually IMPROVE our bowl situation, but if they wanted to be our champions for consideration for an access bowl slot, then they'd need to be full football members.

the problem adding western schools, Hous & SMU want eastern preance, unless there are 3 div.
BYU is not gonna be kept out of access bowls or playoffs if their record & SOS warrants
BYU & New Mexico would work, gets Navy back in east