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(06-10-2014 10:41 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
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(06-10-2014 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Graybeard, that's a ridiculous argument and you know it. If you poled anyone as to what they identify with that flag, the overwhelming consensus would be the Tea Party and not the US Soccer team. Geez.

That flag was around a looooooooooooooong time before the Tea Party adopted it. One must remember that.

Yeah...so...it's what the flag identifies now...in 2014. And it identifies the Tea Party. As it has for several years now.

But dood, the cons will say they were just hard core soccer fans and not wing-nut conservative psychos.

Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.
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(06-10-2014 10:45 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:41 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Graybeard, that's a ridiculous argument and you know it. If you poled anyone as to what they identify with that flag, the overwhelming consensus would be the Tea Party and not the US Soccer team. Geez.

That flag was around a looooooooooooooong time before the Tea Party adopted it. One must remember that.

Yeah...so...it's what the flag identifies now...in 2014. And it identifies the Tea Party. As it has for several years now.

But dood, the cons will say they were just hard core soccer fans and not wing-nut conservative psychos.

Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.

They're obviously just a faction of the Tea Party.
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(06-10-2014 10:45 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:41 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Graybeard, that's a ridiculous argument and you know it. If you poled anyone as to what they identify with that flag, the overwhelming consensus would be the Tea Party and not the US Soccer team. Geez.

That flag was around a looooooooooooooong time before the Tea Party adopted it. One must remember that.

Yeah...so...it's what the flag identifies now...in 2014. And it identifies the Tea Party. As it has for several years now.

But dood, the cons will say they were just hard core soccer fans and not wing-nut conservative psychos.

Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.

I don't believe so. The reports just say they put the flag on the one officer, then they did something with a swastika after that.
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The Nazis were a left wing faction.
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(06-10-2014 10:45 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:41 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Graybeard, that's a ridiculous argument and you know it. If you poled anyone as to what they identify with that flag, the overwhelming consensus would be the Tea Party and not the US Soccer team. Geez.

That flag was around a looooooooooooooong time before the Tea Party adopted it. One must remember that.

Yeah...so...it's what the flag identifies now...in 2014. And it identifies the Tea Party. As it has for several years now.

But dood, the cons will say they were just hard core soccer fans and not wing-nut conservative psychos.

Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.

So they're soccer loving white supremacists then?
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(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Nazis were a left wing faction.

Yeah...and Dearborn, MI is now under full Sharia Law.

Dude...nobody is buying the bull**** you continually sell. Give it up.
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(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Nazis were a left wing faction.

Yeah...and Dearborn, MI is now under full Sharia Law.

Dude...nobody is buying the bull**** you continually sell. Give it up.

The Nazis were a left wing group. In fact they were more Barrack Obamalike than you want to admit.

Nazism was inspired by Italian Fascism, an invention of hardline Communist Benito Mussolini. During World War I, Mussolini recognized that conventional socialism wasn't working. He saw that nationalism exerted a stronger pull on the working class than proletarian brotherhood. He also saw that the ferocious opposition of large corporations made socialist revolution difficult. So in 1919, Mussolini came up with an alternative strategy. He called it Fascism. Mussolini described his new movement as a ``Third Way'' between capitalism and communism. As under communism, the state would exercise dictatorial control over the economy. But as under capitalism, the corporations would be left in private hands.

Hitler followed the same game plan. He openly acknowledged that the Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the ``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler eliminated trade unions, and replaced them with his own state-run labor organizations. Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler hunted down and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

Hitler regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so in speech after speech. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps.
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(06-10-2014 10:59 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Nazis were a left wing faction.

Yeah...and Dearborn, MI is now under full Sharia Law.

Dude...nobody is buying the bull**** you continually sell. Give it up.

The Nazis were a left wing group. In fact they were more Barrack Obamalike than you want to admit.

Nazism was inspired by Italian Fascism, an invention of hardline Communist Benito Mussolini. During World War I, Mussolini recognized that conventional socialism wasn't working. He saw that nationalism exerted a stronger pull on the working class than proletarian brotherhood. He also saw that the ferocious opposition of large corporations made socialist revolution difficult. So in 1919, Mussolini came up with an alternative strategy. He called it Fascism. Mussolini described his new movement as a ``Third Way'' between capitalism and communism. As under communism, the state would exercise dictatorial control over the economy. But as under capitalism, the corporations would be left in private hands.

Hitler followed the same game plan. He openly acknowledged that the Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the ``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler eliminated trade unions, and replaced them with his own state-run labor organizations. Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler hunted down and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

Hitler regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so in speech after speech. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps.

Your copy/paste skills are second to none imo.
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The Nazis are widely known as nationalists, but that label is often used to obscure the fact that they were also socialists. Some question whether Hitler himself actually believed in socialism, but that is no more relevant than whether Stalin was a true believer. The fact is that neither could have come to power without at least posing as a socialist. And the constant emphasis on the fact that the Nazis were nationalists, with barely an acknowledgment that they were socialists, is as absurd as labeling the Soviets ``internationalists'' and ignoring the fact that they were socialists (they called themselves the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics). Yet many who regard ``national'' socialism as the scourge of humanity consider ``international'' socialism a benign or even superior form of government.

According to a popular misconception, the Nazis must have been on the political right because they persecuted communists and fought a war with the communists in Russia. This specious logic has gone largely unchallenged because it serves as useful propaganda for the left, which needs ``right-wing'' atrocities to divert attention from the horrific communist atrocities of the past century. Hence, communist atrocities have received much less publicity than Nazi war crimes, even though they were greater in magnitude by any objective measure.

R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii documents in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror.

But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.

The Nazis also had something else in common with the modern left: an obsessive preoccupation with race. Hitler and his Nazis considered races other than their own inferior, of course. Modern ``liberals,'' who vociferously oppose the elimination of racial quotas, seem to agree. They apparently believe that non-white minorities (excluding Asians, of course) are inferior and unable to compete in the free market without favoritism mandated by the government. Whereas Hitler was hostile to those racial minorities, however, modern white ``liberals'' condescend benevolently. Hitler's blatant and virulent form of racism was eradicated relatively quickly and very forcefully, but the more subtle and insidious racism of the modern left has yet to be universally recognized and condemned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/630472/posts
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(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:45 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:41 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  That flag was around a looooooooooooooong time before the Tea Party adopted it. One must remember that.

Yeah...so...it's what the flag identifies now...in 2014. And it identifies the Tea Party. As it has for several years now.

But dood, the cons will say they were just hard core soccer fans and not wing-nut conservative psychos.

Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.

So they're soccer loving white supremacists then?

Who knows, they might have favored field hockey.
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(06-10-2014 11:10 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:45 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:41 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yeah...so...it's what the flag identifies now...in 2014. And it identifies the Tea Party. As it has for several years now.

But dood, the cons will say they were just hard core soccer fans and not wing-nut conservative psychos.

Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.

So they're soccer loving white supremacists then?

Who knows, they might have favored field hockey.

What's the field hockey flag of choice?
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boring, Krieger
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(06-10-2014 11:04 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Nazis are widely known as nationalists, but that label is often used to obscure the fact that they were also socialists. Some question whether Hitler himself actually believed in socialism, but that is no more relevant than whether Stalin was a true believer. The fact is that neither could have come to power without at least posing as a socialist. And the constant emphasis on the fact that the Nazis were nationalists, with barely an acknowledgment that they were socialists, is as absurd as labeling the Soviets ``internationalists'' and ignoring the fact that they were socialists (they called themselves the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics). Yet many who regard ``national'' socialism as the scourge of humanity consider ``international'' socialism a benign or even superior form of government.

According to a popular misconception, the Nazis must have been on the political right because they persecuted communists and fought a war with the communists in Russia. This specious logic has gone largely unchallenged because it serves as useful propaganda for the left, which needs ``right-wing'' atrocities to divert attention from the horrific communist atrocities of the past century. Hence, communist atrocities have received much less publicity than Nazi war crimes, even though they were greater in magnitude by any objective measure.

R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii documents in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror.

But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.

The Nazis also had something else in common with the modern left: an obsessive preoccupation with race. Hitler and his Nazis considered races other than their own inferior, of course. Modern ``liberals,'' who vociferously oppose the elimination of racial quotas, seem to agree. They apparently believe that non-white minorities (excluding Asians, of course) are inferior and unable to compete in the free market without favoritism mandated by the government. Whereas Hitler was hostile to those racial minorities, however, modern white ``liberals'' condescend benevolently. Hitler's blatant and virulent form of racism was eradicated relatively quickly and very forcefully, but the more subtle and insidious racism of the modern left has yet to be universally recognized and condemned.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/630472/posts

Holy cow, I haven't seen spinning like that in a long time.

I can see Dixie sitting at his computer thinking, "Shucks, better google 'Nazi liberal' so I can find a well known con column made a decade ago to copy/paste and shut these e-idiots down!"
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(06-10-2014 11:16 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  boring, Krieger

I'm being serious, did they have the flag to identify as soccer fans or as a faction of the Tea Party?

(The only answer I will accept here is that they were right-wing lunatics. Yes, in advance, I know left wing nut jobs have killed similarly in the past....both sides have crazies)
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So now that we have established that these shooters were not "right wing" we can now move on to the motive behind the shooting.
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(06-10-2014 11:14 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 11:10 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:45 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:41 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  But dood, the cons will say they were just hard core soccer fans and not wing-nut conservative psychos.

Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.

So they're soccer loving white supremacists then?

Who knows, they might have favored field hockey.

What's the field hockey flag of choice?

Google it, then Google the definition for "sarcastic." You're sure to come out with an answer.
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(06-10-2014 11:51 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 11:14 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 11:10 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:45 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Didn't they have a swastika painted on that flag? Tea Party members don't use a swastika on their flag, and they don't kill people.

So they're soccer loving white supremacists then?

Who knows, they might have favored field hockey.

What's the field hockey flag of choice?

Google it, then Google the definition for "sarcastic." You're sure to come out with an answer.

So do you agree with Dixie in that the shooters were indeed left nutjobs and not right nutjobs?
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(06-10-2014 11:58 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 11:51 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 11:14 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 11:10 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(06-10-2014 10:49 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  So they're soccer loving white supremacists then?

Who knows, they might have favored field hockey.

What's the field hockey flag of choice?

Google it, then Google the definition for "sarcastic." You're sure to come out with an answer.

So do you agree with Dixie in that the shooters were indeed left nutjobs and not right nutjobs?


In the infamous words of Killary Clinton: "What difference does it make?"

Yes, what difference does it make whether they were left or right nut jobs, their bullets will kill you just as well.
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Why?
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