(06-13-2014 08:02 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(06-13-2014 06:23 AM)penguino Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 08:17 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse shopped both the B1G and the ACC. Their "NY's College Team" marketing campaign was done in part to show how Cuse can gain a conference NY eyeballs. The ACC offered first but the B1G was very interested. It was no secret Cuse wanted out of the Big East after Miami/VT/BC left in '04-'05.

Uh, i dont think the B1G was interested at all. If they were Syracuse would have waited for that invite and never went to the ACC. They took the only option they had. A small private university (not named Notre Dame) is not getting an invite to the B1G.

Yeah, Like Northwestern is a public University ! Get Real. Syracuse is a Huge step up in Athletics over Rutgers the last couple of Years. You Guys laid Down in the AAC across the board. Had Syracuse not already accepted it's ACC bid, They would have been the Easy Choice for the New York market in the B1G. I'm glad We will have the chance to be in the ACC with Them and I'm equally glad that Louisville leaves the AAC with a lot of Credits to help Them going forward. We did the right thing in staying on top of the game until July 1,2014. AAC is a good conference and Winning a BCS Bowl, M/W NCAA Basketball, and 2 Super Regionals and 1 CWS Is a Strong Freshman Conference showing and with little Rutgers help. Thats My Rant Today !

1. Northwestern is an original member of the conference. If it were not already in the BIG, it would not be invited in today's climate. Just like Vanderbilt would not be invited to the SEC, if it were not a member. They are both smaller private schools with smaller fan bases and duplicate markets were the larger state school is already a member.
2. Even though Syracuse is in NY, it is further away from NYC than Penn State. While Syracuse is popular in NYC, it is at best the #4 college team behind, Rutgers, ND and PSU.

While I know NJ is helped along by employment in NYC it is Not New York State. Louisville is just across the river from Indiana but other than supplying work force it is not Kentucky. No school in Indiana would say They are Louisvilles Team and No School in Kentucky would ever say They were Indiana's Team . Yes They share TV Market together but that's the extent of it. You can have fans of any school living in any state but that only makes Them fans of a certain. For Anyone to claim Rutgers is NY's School needs to go back to school. Syracuse is WAY more NY's School than Rutgers ever can be. Law of Physics.

(06-13-2014 12:21 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(06-13-2014 08:19 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(06-13-2014 06:23 AM)penguino Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 08:17 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse shopped both the B1G and the ACC. Their "NY's College Team" marketing campaign was done in part to show how Cuse can gain a conference NY eyeballs. The ACC offered first but the B1G was very interested. It was no secret Cuse wanted out of the Big East after Miami/VT/BC left in '04-'05.

Uh, i dont think the B1G was interested at all. If they were Syracuse would have waited for that invite and never went to the ACC. They took the only option they had. A small private university (not named Notre Dame) is not getting an invite to the B1G.

Hard for B1G FanBoys to understand this...but the B1G is not the "end all, be all" for every college in the USA. Cuse is a much better fit for the ACC and that was their first choice. Yes, I know the B1G was courting SU for a fact. Cuse always had much more interest in the ACC over the B1G.

Whatever helps you sleep at nite.

Let's just say that Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville and Notre Dame will achieve a much larger Success rate than Rutgers ever will. Not because of a lack of competition, But because We are Warriors whom take chances and like winning. You Guys used to have it but something went South badly. Don't know if it was the Lawsuit with AAC or You didn't want to leave credits behind with the AAC but You have a long road back starting in a new conference and Truthfully because of some of the Older Rutgers posters on the Big East and AAC boards I wish You well.

(06-13-2014 06:23 AM)penguino Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 08:17 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  I know Cuse shopped both the B1G and the ACC. Their "NY's College Team" marketing campaign was done in part to show how Cuse can gain a conference NY eyeballs. The ACC offered first but the B1G was very interested. It was no secret Cuse wanted out of the Big East after Miami/VT/BC left in '04-'05.

Uh, i dont think the B1G was interested at all. If they were Syracuse would have waited for that invite and never went to the ACC. They took the only option they had. A small private university (not named Notre Dame) is not getting an invite to the B1G.

So by small you mean over 21,000 undergrad/grad students not to include about 4,000 more at adjacent cross-enrollment schools who were once part of the school?

Why would Cuse wait on the B1G? They were already burned once (2003)...you take the first good offer. In Cuse's case the first offer was also the best one for the school, fan base and alumni.

(06-13-2014 12:54 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  While I know NJ is helped along by employment in NYC it is Not New York State. Louisville is just across the river from Indiana but other than supplying work force it is not Kentucky. No school in Indiana would say They are Louisvilles Team and No School in Kentucky would ever say They were Indiana's Team . Yes They share TV Market together but that's the extent of it. You can have fans of any school living in any state but that only makes Them fans of a certain. For Anyone to claim Rutgers is NY's School needs to go back to school. Syracuse is WAY more NY's School than Rutgers ever can be. Law of Physics.

Recognize the building? Note the colors (hint Scarlet), done on more than one occasion (especially on one particular day in 2006 ). It is about 45 miles from New Brunswick to Times Square. Living in Kentucky and Indiana isn't the same as living in the New York Metropoilitan area, which includes more than 1/2 of NJ (and New Brunswick). By the way, you do know the Jets, Giants and Red Bulls (all New York teams) play in NJ? And most folks in NJ consider themselves NY fans? Syracuse is more than 200 miles away (physics - 200 is more than 45). They may be upstate NY's team, but they ain't NY city's team, and when people say "NY's team" they don't mean upstate, they mean the city (and only the city, no offense intended to upstate New Yorkers, but no one really gives a hoot about anything north of the city)....heck, UCONN and ND are more NY's team than Syracuse is.

(06-13-2014 05:55 PM)penguino Wrote:  

(06-13-2014 12:54 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  While I know NJ is helped along by employment in NYC it is Not New York State. Louisville is just across the river from Indiana but other than supplying work force it is not Kentucky. No school in Indiana would say They are Louisvilles Team and No School in Kentucky would ever say They were Indiana's Team . Yes They share TV Market together but that's the extent of it. You can have fans of any school living in any state but that only makes Them fans of a certain. For Anyone to claim Rutgers is NY's School needs to go back to school. Syracuse is WAY more NY's School than Rutgers ever can be. Law of Physics.

Recognize the building? Note the colors (hint Scarlet), done on more than one occasion (especially on one particular day in 2006 ). It is about 45 miles from New Brunswick to Times Square. Living in Kentucky and Indiana isn't the same as living in the New York Metropoilitan area, which includes more than 1/2 of NJ (and New Brunswick). By the way, you do know the Jets, Giants and Red Bulls (all New York teams) play in NJ? And most folks in NJ consider themselves NY fans? Syracuse is more than 200 miles away (physics - 200 is more than 45). They may be upstate NY's team, but they ain't NY city's team, and when people say "NY's team" they don't mean upstate, they mean the city (and only the city, no offense intended to upstate New Yorkers, but no one really gives a hoot about anything north of the city)....heck, UCONN and ND are more NY's team than Syracuse is.

That building looks an awful lot like this one lighted in blue and orange.

And when it was RED it could have also been for Louisville. After all the Sky was Black at night !
Any way Syracuse and Louisvilles records speak for Themselves Loud and Clear. Champions Both . We will both be FINE in the ACC!

(06-13-2014 06:40 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  And when it was RED it could have also been for Louisville. After all the Sky was Black at night !
Any way Syracuse and Louisvilles records speak for Themselves Loud and Clear. Champions Both . We will both be FINE in the ACC!

Good one! Peace my friend.