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(06-09-2014 10:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Destroying the Byzantine Empire and this setting up the future failed conquests of Europe and the fractured social and religious systems of the Balkans are enough for a person to put him on their list.

Yep.
06-09-2014 11:17 AM
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I thought it was funny back around 2000 when Time Magazine wanted to name the Person of the Century and decided to require that the person must have had a positive impact on society, which is something they never applied to their Person of the Year requirements. They picked Einstein as Person of the Century but if you're going off of who had the greatest impact on the world in the 20th Century there's only 1 guy that comes close. A certain Austrian corporal with the world's worst case of Antisemitism.
06-09-2014 11:27 AM
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(06-09-2014 11:27 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I thought it was funny back around 2000 when Time Magazine wanted to name the Person of the Century and decided to require that the person must have had a positive impact on society, which is something they never applied to their Person of the Year requirements. They picked Einstein as Person of the Century but if you're going off of who had the greatest impact on the world in the 20th Century there's only 1 guy that comes close. A certain Austrian corporal with the world's worst case of Antisemitism.

You wonder if he could have made a living selling his paintings would history have turned out any different.

Quote:He worked as a casual laborer and eventually as a painter, selling watercolors. The Academy of Fine Arts Vienna rejected him twice, in 1907 and 1908, because of his "unfitness for painting". The director recommended that Hitler study architecture, but he lacked the academic credentials.
06-09-2014 11:58 AM
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Woodrow Wilson
06-09-2014 12:17 PM
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(06-09-2014 10:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Destroying the Byzantine Empire and this setting up the future failed conquests of Europe and the fractured social and religious systems of the Balkans are enough for a person to put him on their list.
The Byzantine Empire deserved to die, HOD. Haven't you ever heard the expression Byzantine corruption? There's a reason for that expression, and Sultan Mehmet was the cure.

The Byzantine Empire was the last vestige of the Roman Empire, which while responsible for many innovations, was a barbaric, corrupt Empire responsible for endangering the majority of animals on the endangered species list today, enslaving millions, and murdering all those who didn't want to be slaves or Roman subjects. As for what happened in the Balkans, everything that happened probably would have occurred in the exact same way under the Byzantine Empire. It was already collapsing on it's own. The Turks under Faith Sultan Mehmet merely hurried due process along.
06-09-2014 12:31 PM
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(06-09-2014 12:31 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(06-09-2014 10:52 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Destroying the Byzantine Empire and this setting up the future failed conquests of Europe and the fractured social and religious systems of the Balkans are enough for a person to put him on their list.
The Byzantine Empire deserved to die, HOD. Haven't you ever heard the expression Byzantine corruption? There's a reason for that expression, and Sultan Mehmet was the cure.

The Byzantine Empire was the last vestige of the Roman Empire, which while responsible for many innovations, was a barbaric, corrupt Empire responsible for endangering the majority of animals on the endangered species list today, enslaving millions, and murdering all those who didn't want to be slaves or Roman subjects. As for what happened in the Balkans, everything that happened probably would have occurred in the exact same way under the Byzantine Empire. It was already collapsing on it's own. The Turks under Faith Sultan Mehmet merely hurried due process along.

That's personal opinion. The collapse of the Byzantine Empire was a major loss for millions and for Christendom.
06-09-2014 12:34 PM
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There is plenty to lead a reasonable person to loathe the man.
06-09-2014 12:37 PM
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There's plenty in history to loath Julius Caesar too. There was plenty during Caesar's time too, or he wouldn't have been stabbed to death by Roman Senators Gaius Cassius Longinus and Marcus Junius Brutus, which led to Civil War between the forces led by Marc Anthony and the forces of the Roman Senators.

There's a lot to loath about most historical figures, if you dig enough. That's because no creature is as cruel and inhumane as humanity. Even the Biblical Devil is a piker compared to mankind.
06-09-2014 12:55 PM
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(06-09-2014 12:55 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  There's plenty in history to loath Julius Caesar too. There was plenty during Caesar's time too, or he wouldn't have been stabbed to death by Roman Senators Gaius Cassius Longinus and Marcus Junius Brutus, which led to Civil War between the forces led by Marc Anthony and the forces of the Roman Senators.

There's a lot to loath about most historical figures, if you dig enough. That's because no creature is as cruel and inhumane as humanity. Even the Biblical Devil is a piker compared to mankind.

I'm not arguing with you, just saying there is enough with the Sultan to sustain a loathing for the man.

I think you can agree with that.
06-09-2014 01:00 PM
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The first base umpire that blew the call that cost my 9-10 year old team the state championship.
06-09-2014 01:15 PM
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