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RE: ESPN: ACC distributes $20.8 Million per school for 2013-2014
Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.
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RE: ESPN: ACC distributes $20.8 Million per school for 2013-2014
(06-07-2014 07:26 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.

You never did explain to JR why your IP address is the same as Buck's................
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(06-07-2014 07:26 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.

You're incredible. I guess you missed the post where I defended WVU fans.
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(06-07-2014 07:26 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.

you've been busy today spinning the ACC contract haven't you "Buck"? lol. If you are not Buckaineer, you and the "dodge" poster argue just like Buck.

Let's recap the week.
  • SEC and Big 12 release conference disbursements
This lead to two things. 1st we went into detail about the complex multimedia deals that teams have. Big 12 teams have TV in theirs, others do not. In the end, it was determined no advantage to anyone but Texas because teams from other leagues also make extra money outside of conference TV money on multimedia deals too. The TV portion of about 70% of the schools in the Big 12 was not substantial enough to separate them from other conferences that pool their tier 3 . That lead to the second big discussion. Team revenue from 2012-2013 were discussed and most detractors felt that due to all the money flowing into the Big 12, more teams should at least be Top 25-30 in revenue. That point was adverted and focus was directed at subsidies because certain teams that were looked down upon by B12 fans were right there with the Big 12 teams in terms of revenue.
  • ACC finally releases disbursements
At first it was a running joke on the BGN Big 12 board they were hiding the info due to it being so low, etc.
Let's note that the Big 12 never has the most money distributed due to the low number of teams. They always lay claim to having the "highest payout per team" due to having "less mouths to feed". So the ACC releases their disbursement at $291 million or so divided among 14 teams, it averages out around $20.6 or 8 million dollars, right in the same level as the SEC.
At first, you could hear a rat pee on cotton over there but then here comes ole Buckaineer. LOL The conversation twists from sheer numbers to dealing in semantics on what a full share is. 8 teams getting $23 million and 2 getting $15 million is what you call not getting a full share. A team getting $19.6 million and one getting $18M and one $16.9M sounds like a full share but adjusted for travel and bowl game performance. Big Difference!

Now the focus from a certain poster seems to be on saying that the ACC is giving away Maryland's share and stealing from Notre Dame's share(how can you steal from Notre Dame when the eers always label them as greedy bloodsuckers?)

other than that, you haven't missed much03-nutkick
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(06-07-2014 07:51 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 07:26 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.

You never did explain to JR why your IP address is the same as Buck's................

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(06-07-2014 09:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  On Texas Tech's case, around $3 million for their TV rights (on top of the typical Tier 3).

We were not saying they didn't earn anything at all but the deals that were published like WVU's included everything else that others get and for around the same amount. That was the point. Remember this all stems from conference payout discussions and w/o fail, some Big 12 fan always says "but this doesn't even include our tier 3 money, we actually made $XXX". Someone provided a story of published deals and it showed Big 12 teams are not the only ones get x-amount of dollars from the Learfields and IMGs of the world. I know the TV money is supposed to be over and above that but unless the Big 12 starts reporting tier 3 TV MONEY only and separately, we are just going to have to include all multimedia deals in these discussions because when the fans quote, they don't quote $1-$3 million dollars, they quote the entire deal from $5-$8M.
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RE: ESPN: ACC distributes $20.8 Million per school for 2013-2014
(06-07-2014 08:25 PM)dopeordogfood Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 07:26 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.

you've been busy today spinning the ACC contract haven't you "Buck"? lol. If you are not Buckaineer, you and the "dodge" poster argue just like Buck.

I've been busy today--but not on a message board and no I'm not "Buck". Now which one are you? Maize? Terry D? or one of the other ACC "personalities regularly gang slamming others on this board and elsewhere who don't agree with your odd views.

It might surprise you to step out of this message board and realize everyone doesn't share your narrow views on things by a long shot--and yes other people that have different views than you may share similar thoughts with each other.


Let's recap the week.

Yes let's--although first let me say that you ACC people provide lots of laughs outside your small circles. You bash West Virginia and its posters constantly for some reason, but some of the nutjob things you come up here put those posters that used to post there--"the Dude" and "MHver3" to shame with their incredible fantasies such as the Big 12 dissolving, or the Big 12 only being UT and OU as if there aren't any other schools there.

  • SEC and Big 12 release conference disbursements
This lead to two things. 1st we went into detail about the complex multimedia deals that teams have. Big 12 teams have TV in theirs, others do not. In the end, it was determined no advantage to anyone but Texas because teams from other leagues also make extra money outside of conference TV money on multimedia deals too. The TV portion of about 70% of the schools in the Big 12 was not substantial enough to separate them from other conferences that pool their tier 3 . That lead to the second big discussion. Team revenue from 2012-2013 were discussed and most detractors felt that due to all the money flowing into the Big 12, more teams should at least be Top 25-30 in revenue. That point was adverted and focus was directed at subsidies because certain teams that were looked down upon by B12 fans were right there with the Big 12 teams in terms of revenue.

Once again this is just laughable. You have decided that every conference but the Big 12 makes money from its tier 3 tv product. Wow--talk about nutjobs. Of course the Big 12 makes revenues others don't from television for their tier 3 media rights. Those schools also make the same money everyone else does for their multimedia, sponsorship and royalty type rights. Its two different things. Last fiscal year there were four top twenty five Big 12 teams and 0 ACC schools in the top 20 btw. The highest ranked ACC school was FSU, and they barely made the top 25 at 24. The top ranked Big 12 school was number one Texas and OU also made the top ten as well. The entire conference made the top 50 revenue schools. What your "thesis" of course ignores is that schools make revenues on their own in addition to media rights--ticket sales, parking, various different revenue streams account for differences. Still, from the P5 conferences the Big 12 is bringing in as much from media rights as anyone, while the ACC schools are dead last and the gap will increase.
  • ACC finally releases disbursements
At first it was a running joke on the BGN Big 12 board they were hiding the info due to it being so low, etc.
Let's note that the Big 12 never has the most money distributed due to the low number of teams. They always lay claim to having the "highest payout per team" due to having "less mouths to feed". So the ACC releases their disbursement at $291 million or so divided among 14 teams, it averages out around $20.6 or 8 million dollars, right in the same level as the SEC.
At first, you could hear a rat pee on cotton over there but then here comes ole Buckaineer. LOL The conversation twists from sheer numbers to dealing in semantics on what a full share is. 8 teams getting $23 million and 2 getting $15 million is what you call not getting a full share. A team getting $19.6 million and one getting $18M and one $16.9M sounds like a full share but adjusted for travel and bowl game performance. Big Difference!


Now the focus from a certain poster seems to be on saying that the ACC is giving away Maryland's share and stealing from Notre Dame's share(how can you steal from Notre Dame when the eers always label them as greedy bloodsuckers?)

other than that, you haven't missed much03-nutkick


Not sure what you are ranting about here. All I can tell you is that next year TCU and WVU will recieve $20 million each and full share Big 12 members will recieve $26 million at least from conference disbursements. That is alot of money and when you add in their tier 3 tv money (and not the tier 3 money they get like everyone else) the Big 12 schools will be doing quite well and their revenues increase throughout their contracts. The ACC will get to around $24 million in 2017--everyone else will be far beyond that. You mention partial share Big 12 schools but ignore that ND gets a partial share in the ACC. Each conference has partial share members, the Big 12 is no different.
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(06-07-2014 08:04 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 07:26 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.

You're incredible. I guess you missed the post where I defended WVU fans.

I would say you and this board are incredible. I could only get through a few posts here before it just became too much. The ACC posters have such vitriol for everything that doesn't fit in their myopic vision that it makes it pretty difficult for anyone to read or post here. Good for you if you defended a non ACC school. I'm sure more people from other places would be here more to discuss but the ACC posters seem to believe they own these boards and no one can have an opinion other than theirs (which many do not btw).
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(06-07-2014 11:11 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 08:04 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(06-07-2014 07:26 PM)Tbringer Wrote:  Let's see what did I miss today--

ACC fans gang busting on the Big 12, WVU and the poster known as Buckaineer....ACC fans accusing me of being someone else --because if you don't fly the ACC colors on these boards--you must be someone else I guess?01-wingedeagle.... and ACC fans celebrating having the lowest tv contract of the P5 (or whatever they go by now) conferences-and pretending its better than everyone else's. Yeah, I'd say that about covers it. Nothing new here.

It is interesting to note that Maryland stated the ACC would be paying out $20 million per member by 2014 for everything. Not surprising its right as expected to be. Based on the fact that has played out as it was reported--by 2017 the Big Ten will be about $19 to $20 million ahead of ACC payouts.

You're incredible. I guess you missed the post where I defended WVU fans.

I would say you and this board are incredible. I could only get through a few posts here before it just became too much. The ACC posters have such vitriol for everything that doesn't fit in their myopic vision that it makes it pretty difficult for anyone to read or post here. Good for you if you defended a non ACC school. I'm sure more people from other places would be here more to discuss but the ACC posters seem to believe they own these boards and no one can have an opinion other than theirs (which many do not btw).

sorry but non-ridicule on this board is limited exclusively to posters who have a grasp on reality. Get with the program or shut the f**k up.
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Quote:but some of the nutjob things you come up here put those posters that used to post there--"the Dude" and "MHver3" to shame with their incredible fantasies such as the Big 12 dissolving, or the Big 12 only being UT and OU as if there aren't any other schools there.

I haven't been involved with any discussions of the Big 12 dissolving. We are just counting the days to join the ACC and compete while you guys are still counting UT's money and trying to be accepted and not moving the needle in any sport besides Rifle.

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Quote:Last fiscal year there were four top twenty five Big 12 teams and 0 ACC schools in the top 20 btw.
Notice how you went to 25 to include the Big 12 teams and cut it off at 20 to exclude the ACC teams? LOL

Tbringer
Quote:The highest ranked ACC school was FSU, and they barely made the top 25 at 24.

But you bragging about your teams in at 23 and 24 and still bragging at Texas and Oklahoma?? LOL SMH. WHo is your team and where are they in this equation?

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Quote:Not sure what you are ranting about here. All I can tell you is that next year TCU and WVU will recieve $20 million each and full share Big 12 members will recieve $26 million at least from conference disbursements. That is alot of money and when you add in their tier 3 tv money
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Right on que! Can you please show what a Big 12 team besides Texas makes on TV alone please? How much is it??Oh and please provide documentation, not rumor and folkore. Even Kansas' deal includes everything at $8 million. Between equipment and cash, Louisville is getting that much from Adidas.

Listen, the Big 12 is a good league but so are the other ones. Stop trying to act like it's something so unique and special based on $$.
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