http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

It's a lot more than just a couple

(06-06-2014 05:47 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

It's a lot more than just a couple

I like how the article specifically added a line at the end to preemptively undermine the "Tier 3" kookbots.... as if it is really possible to deprogram those ignoramuses.

Still, it seems that the ACC PR department might be slowly learning.

(06-06-2014 06:24 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:47 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

It's a lot more than just a couple

I like how the article specifically added a line at the end to preemptively undermine the "Tier 3" kookbots.... as if that it is really possible to deprogram those ignoramuses.

Still, it seems that the ACC PR department might be slowly learning.

I know right...TBRINGER on the Realignment Board is NOT going to be Happy...

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

What is also amazing is that in total the SEC only made $1.1 Million more in 2013-2014....

So basically if the SEC Network is a success they could pull away some. And the Big Ten is basically guaranteed to have a nice lead on everyone, too. Don't care about the Big 12 but they'd obviously be better off were they able to steal some ACC schools when they may have had the chance.

(06-06-2014 06:39 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

What is also amazing is that in total the SEC only made $1.1 Million more in 2013-2014....

Although it's consistently ignored, the value of ACC basketball helps to underwrite the value of the league's entire package. Even though football is the big dog, basketball matters and that is readily apparent when you look at individual revenues in the ACC.

For example, here is some football money:


$43 million FSU
$41.1 million Clemson
$38 million VT
$33 million Syracuse
$31.8 million NC State
$31.4 million UNC
$30 million Miami
$24 million Duke
$21.5 million UVa

Now here is men's basketball

$26 million Syracuse
$25 million Duke
$19.6 million UNC
$18 million NC State
$10.6 million VT
$9 million FSU
$8.7 million Miami
$7.6 million UVa
$6.2 million Clemson

The anti ACC crowd usually focuses on how bad Duke, UNC, NC State, UVa, and Syracuse are in football and while they have a point about that, basketball has value.

What really amazing is the close spread between so many ACC schools regarding just football and men's basketball revenue:

$52 million FSU
$51 million Syracuse
$51 million UNC
$49.8 million NC State
$49 million Duke
$48.6 million VT
$47.3 million Clemson
$38.7 million Miami

The remainder of the difference is due to donations, student fees, contributions by the University, apparel and merchandise, etc.

(06-06-2014 07:11 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  So basically if the SEC Network is a success they could pull away some. And the Big Ten is basically guaranteed to have a nice lead on everyone, too. Don't care about the Big 12 but they'd obviously be better off were they able to steal some ACC schools when they may have had the chance.

I am willing to bet ESPN will keep the ACC close enough where the gap isn't significant. ACC basketball to them is a gold mine.

Not to mention football is finally starting to get it's act together.

(06-06-2014 07:11 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  So basically if the SEC Network is a success they could pull away some. And the Big Ten is basically guaranteed to have a nice lead on everyone, too. Don't care about the Big 12 but they'd obviously be better off were they able to steal some ACC schools when they may have had the chance.

The B12 never had a chance. Everything was based on dude-kook blogsh*t. Some stupid trustee types bit into internet quackery...until they were showed the correct information.

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

I know a few ACC fans here this will piss off.....lol
CJ

(06-06-2014 09:01 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

I know a few ACC fans here this will piss off.....lol
CJ

Based on Notre Dame reportedly receiving 1/15th of 20% of the disbursements, the actual average per school might be more like an average $20.6 million.

It's going to vary though, since the ACC pays out expenses for championship and bowl appearances. FSU received more than anyone else last year and will again this year.

(06-06-2014 09:23 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 09:01 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

I know a few ACC fans here this will piss off.....lol
CJ

Based on Notre Dame reportedly receiving 1/15th of 20% of the disbursements, the actual average per school might be more like an average $20.6 million.

It's going to vary though, since the ACC pays out expenses for championship and bowl appearances. FSU received more than anyone else last year and will again this year.

So, $3.88 million for ND. Did I get the math right?

(06-06-2014 07:38 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 06:39 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

What is also amazing is that in total the SEC only made $1.1 Million more in 2013-2014....

Although it's consistently ignored, the value of ACC basketball helps to underwrite the value of the league's entire package. Even though football is the big dog, basketball matters and that is readily apparent when you look at individual revenues in the ACC.

For example, here is some football money:


$43 million FSU
$41.1 million Clemson
$38 million VT
$33 million Syracuse
$31.8 million NC State
$31.4 million UNC
$30 million Miami
$24 million Duke
$21.5 million UVa

Now here is men's basketball

$26 million Syracuse
$25 million Duke
$19.6 million UNC
$18 million NC State
$10.6 million VT
$9 million FSU
$8.7 million Miami
$7.6 million UVa
$6.2 million Clemson

The anti ACC crowd usually focuses on how bad Duke, UNC, NC State, UVa, and Syracuse are in football and while they have a point about that, basketball has value.

What really amazing is the close spread between so many ACC schools regarding just football and men's basketball revenue:

$52 million FSU
$51 million Syracuse
$51 million UNC
$49.8 million NC State
$49 million Duke
$48.6 million VT
$47.3 million Clemson
$38.7 million Miami

The remainder of the difference is due to donations, student fees, contributions by the University, apparel and merchandise, etc.

We were 3rd in the Atlantic behind FSU and Clemson and won the BIG EAST the year before that. To put things in perspective, Ohio State would have been 3rd in that division last year. There's no shame in either of those outcomes. Is SU setting the world on fire? No. But, we won 3 bowls in the last 4 years. The GRob years are over. At worst, we are slightly above average with a rich history. Anyone who goes on about SU being bad is a moron. Our talent and coaching aren't elite right now (although HCSS has a HUGE amount of promise). However, we certainly aren't bad.

(06-06-2014 10:07 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 07:38 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 06:39 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

What is also amazing is that in total the SEC only made $1.1 Million more in 2013-2014....

Although it's consistently ignored, the value of ACC basketball helps to underwrite the value of the league's entire package. Even though football is the big dog, basketball matters and that is readily apparent when you look at individual revenues in the ACC.

For example, here is some football money:


$43 million FSU
$41.1 million Clemson
$38 million VT
$33 million Syracuse
$31.8 million NC State
$31.4 million UNC
$30 million Miami
$24 million Duke
$21.5 million UVa

Now here is men's basketball

$26 million Syracuse
$25 million Duke
$19.6 million UNC
$18 million NC State
$10.6 million VT
$9 million FSU
$8.7 million Miami
$7.6 million UVa
$6.2 million Clemson

The anti ACC crowd usually focuses on how bad Duke, UNC, NC State, UVa, and Syracuse are in football and while they have a point about that, basketball has value.

What really amazing is the close spread between so many ACC schools regarding just football and men's basketball revenue:

$52 million FSU
$51 million Syracuse
$51 million UNC
$49.8 million NC State
$49 million Duke
$48.6 million VT
$47.3 million Clemson
$38.7 million Miami

The remainder of the difference is due to donations, student fees, contributions by the University, apparel and merchandise, etc.

We were 3rd in the Atlantic behind FSU and Clemson and won the BIG EAST the year before that. To put things in perspective, Ohio State would have been 3rd in that division last year. There's no shame in either of those outcomes. Is SU setting the world on fire? No. But, we won 3 bowls in the last 4 years. The GRob years are over. At worst, we are slightly above average with a rich history. Anyone who goes on about SU being bad is a moron. Our talent and coaching aren't elite right now (although HCSS has a HUGE amount of promise). However, we certainly aren't bad.

Y'all are tough! We will be the first to admit it....sweet tea and all that!


is that southern enough?

You are preach'n to the choir when you talk about the money that can be made in basketball.

Kristi Dosh

"It might shock you to learn that Louisville basketball banked nearly twice as much revenue as Kentucky basketball last season. With $42.4 million in revenue, Louisville basketball generated more net revenue than any other basketball program in the country, with Syracuse a distance second at $26 million. Kentucky ranked fifth at $23.2 million."


ACC money will move UofL into the Top 15 in revenues next season, perhaps higher.
CJ

(06-06-2014 10:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 09:23 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 09:01 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

I know a few ACC fans here this will piss off.....lol
CJ

Based on Notre Dame reportedly receiving 1/15th of 20% of the disbursements, the actual average per school might be more like an average $20.6 million.

It's going to vary though, since the ACC pays out expenses for championship and bowl appearances. FSU received more than anyone else last year and will again this year.

So, $3.88 million for ND. Did I get the math right?

It'll vary but that seems right.

(06-07-2014 09:03 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 10:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 09:23 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 09:01 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:46 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  I know a couple of Big 12 (WV fans) that will find this news to be very disturbing.

I know a few ACC fans here this will piss off.....lol
CJ

Based on Notre Dame reportedly receiving 1/15th of 20% of the disbursements, the actual average per school might be more like an average $20.6 million.

It's going to vary though, since the ACC pays out expenses for championship and bowl appearances. FSU received more than anyone else last year and will again this year.

So, $3.88 million for ND. Did I get the math right?

It'll vary but that seems right.

That's what I figured, but who knows if that figure is adjusted somehow since ND doesn't start their ACC football schedule until this fall. We may never know.

(06-07-2014 10:49 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(06-07-2014 09:03 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 10:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 09:23 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 09:01 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I know a few ACC fans here this will piss off.....lol
CJ

Based on Notre Dame reportedly receiving 1/15th of 20% of the disbursements, the actual average per school might be more like an average $20.6 million.

It's going to vary though, since the ACC pays out expenses for championship and bowl appearances. FSU received more than anyone else last year and will again this year.

So, $3.88 million for ND. Did I get the math right?

It'll vary but that seems right.

That's what I figured, but who knows if that figure is adjusted somehow since ND doesn't start their ACC football schedule until this fall. We may never know.

It really doesn't matter in the entire scheme of things. It really is not a whole lot of money, relatively speaking.

(06-06-2014 07:38 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 06:39 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 05:35 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...iscal-year

Wait...someone told me the ACC was so far behind everyone else.

What is also amazing is that in total the SEC only made $1.1 Million more in 2013-2014....

Although it's consistently ignored, the value of ACC basketball helps to underwrite the value of the league's entire package. Even though football is the big dog, basketball matters and that is readily apparent when you look at individual revenues in the ACC.

For example, here is some football money:


$43 million FSU
$41.1 million Clemson
$38 million VT
$33 million Syracuse
$31.8 million NC State
$31.4 million UNC
$30 million Miami
$24 million Duke
$21.5 million UVa

Now here is men's basketball

$26 million Syracuse
$25 million Duke
$19.6 million UNC
$18 million NC State
$10.6 million VT
$9 million FSU
$8.7 million Miami
$7.6 million UVa
$6.2 million Clemson

The anti ACC crowd usually focuses on how bad Duke, UNC, NC State, UVa, and Syracuse are in football and while they have a point about that, basketball has value.

What really amazing is the close spread between so many ACC schools regarding just football and men's basketball revenue:

$52 million FSU
$51 million Syracuse
$51 million UNC
$49.8 million NC State
$49 million Duke
$48.6 million VT
$47.3 million Clemson
$38.7 million Miami

The remainder of the difference is due to donations, student fees, contributions by the University, apparel and merchandise, etc.

Not to distract from your overall point, but Syracuse leads the ACC in the two major sports at $59MM, using the above numbers. FSU falls behind by $7MM.